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Samsung Announces 10nm SoC In Mass-Production (anandtech.com) 49

An anonymous reader quotes a report from AnandTech: Today Samsung announced mass production of a SoC built on its third-generation 10nm "10LPE" manufacturing node. It was only this January that Samsung announced mass production of its 14LPP process that ended up being used in the Exynos 8890 and the Snapdragon 820 powering up a large amount of flagship devices this year. There wasn't any specification as to what kind of SoC the mass production announcement is referring to, but it's very likely we're talking about S.LSI's next generation Exynos -- or maybe even Qualcomm's Snapdragon 820 successor, both of which we'll hopefully hear official announcements from in the coming months. The process promises some significant speed and power efficiency advantages over current generation designs so it's likely the next generation of devices will see a large boost, similarly to how the first 14/16 SoCs had large improvements over previous generation 20/28nm designs. Interestingly the new SoCs will have an edge on recent and upcoming designs still being released on 16nm manufacturing processes, such as Apple's A10 or other TSMC customers who have to wait till next year for 10FF. Samsung writes in its press release: "Samsung's new 10nm FinFET process (10LPE) adopts an advanced 3D transistor structure with additional enhancements in both process technology and design enablement compared to its 14nm predecessor, allowing up to 30-percent increase in area efficiency with 27-percent higher performance or 40-percent lower power consumption. In order to overcome scaling limitations, cutting edge techniques such as triple-patterning to allow bi-directional routing are also used to retain design and routing flexibility from prior nodes."
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Samsung Announces 10nm SoC In Mass-Production

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  • wow (Score:4, Funny)

    by bugs2squash ( 1132591 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:23PM (#53094353)
    this is going to be HOT
  • Will it have built-in fire suppression? I know, that's the feature I'll be looking for in my next Samsung phone.
  • The "nanometers" game is a big scam. You can call your process whatever you want based on any of various parameters and based on how you want to market it.

    Not sure how Samsung's stacks up, but TSMC is claiming they will soon have 10nm (TM) soon and their process is more like a traditional 14-16nm process.

    It's all a bunch of fakery and lies. The proof is in the pudding of performance, yield, and profits due to density.

    • They are saying it is a 30% increase in transistor density. This figure probably isnt a lie. Intel was the first company to begin to falsely state feature size, so just follow the transistor counts and chip sizes.

      30% is a pretty good gain.
  • Let's hope Samsung doesn't pack it with so much innovation that it becomes uncontrollable.

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016... [nytimes.com]

  • by Anonymous Coward

    So here we have an article about a technical thing on Slashdot and we see an example of the cultural zeitgeist. We all know about the Note 7 and we all want to be part of the in-joke, so you see post after post about fires and explosions.

    • You're right, sorry. We should stick to the technology discussion. I hear they're going to use this in the Kindle.
      • by bn-7bc ( 909819 )
        Ok I'll try to ask a slightly on topic question , how big a gein in power eficiensy will this give over a SoC produced with the previous gate demention?
        • by Desler ( 1608317 )

          Couldn't be bothered to read the summary?

          and design enablement compared to its 14nm predecessor, allowing up to 30-percent increase in area efficiency with 27-percent higher performance or 40-percent lower power consumption.

    • by Desler ( 1608317 )

      Well it's just that we can't all pack as much innovation into our posts as Samsung did into the Note 7.

    • Worst thing is, they leave out the inb4.

  • They've merely found a good way to implement the "Halt and Catch Fire" command.
  • by jonwil ( 467024 ) on Monday October 17, 2016 @06:52PM (#53095669)

    How does the technology being used for these chips compare to the latest and greatest Intel are doing? Intel has had fabs that are a generation or 2 in front of everyone else for many years now, does this new technology mean someone is finally catching up to Intel?

    • Intel will have 10nm next year which is more dense than Samsung's 10nm, but on the other hand the yield isn't too good. It won't be until 2018 that the 10nm yield is good enough for their 4 core chips.
      By that time TSMC have 7nm which is denser than Intel's 10nm. So basically, yes Intel has lost the lead. TSMC will be ahead of everybody in 2018.

      • So basically, yes Intel has lost the lead. TSMC will be ahead of everybody in 2018.

        It's the sense I'm getting. And basically, it reflects the shift from a PC-centric market to phone-centric.

  • Somehow this story showed up in my Slashdot feed, when it's really just supposed to trigger a mass outpouring of the reflex derision arc among those so inclined (said barf cookies falsely paraded by its practitioners as chuckle fodder).

    "There, don't you feel better now? Now come sit with us at the adult table." Amazing what a quickie bile purge can accomplish in raising the level of discussion elsewhere.

    This is all good. Yet somehow my dank, reeking bile seems to have been misclassified as grasshopper lip

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