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Student Makes 'Shazam For Fonts', a Gadget That Detects Fonts and Captures Colors (theverge.com) 71

Imagine being able to use a miniature device which could quickly tell you the kind of font you're looking at in a book, and also tell you about its color. Fiona O'Leary, a student at the Royal College of Art, has developed exactly that kind of device, and she is calling it Spector. The device, which is in its prototype phase, also saves the font type information and loads the data on Adobe InDesign. The Verge reports: If she loved the font London uses on its subway maps, for instance, she could use this device to capture that font and load it into Adobe InDesign. Spector takes a photo of the font and uses an algorithm to translate that image into information about the shape of letters and symbols. It then cross-references that information with a font database to correctly identify it. The Spector also captures colors and breaks them down into CMYK/RGB values.
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Student Makes 'Shazam For Fonts', a Gadget That Detects Fonts and Captures Colors

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  • An "algorithm"!

  • Already exists (Score:3, Informative)

    by mark-t ( 151149 ) <markt AT nerdflat DOT com> on Wednesday July 06, 2016 @04:10PM (#52458373) Journal

    WhatTheFont can look at font text and tell you what it is.

    Taking an existing color and converting it to RGB or CMYK is what any hardware store that will color-match paint to a sample has been doing for years.

    • Re: (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      But did a woman make it?

      No? See. This one is better!

    • Lots of things are just improvements on other things.

      But by making this a device, it actually seems to be a degradation. Now we have to carry another device around? What's wrong with making this a mobile app? It would literally do the exact same thing.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Yeah, but this one was designed by a WOMAN

    • by arth1 ( 260657 )

      WhatTheFont can look at font text and tell you what it is.

      Every time I've tried it, it has misidentified. And it's not like the differences were tiny either - it's oblivious to things like whether the point of a V is flat or pointy, or whether 3/4/5/7/9 are descending below the base line.

      If someone could launch a font identification tool that actually works, it would be swell. My guess is that too many commercial fonts have unreasonable licenses that prevent them from being used, but I could be wrong.

  • Ok... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    So she uploads a photo to WhatTheFont using the api they provide for doing just that, and then pulls the RGB values from the not-in-anyway-colour-calibrated image and converts them to CMYK.

    Fucking groundbreaking.

  • Just in case you were wondering: Fiona means "white" and "O'Leary" means "keeper of the calves." Carry on.
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Fiona means "white" and "O'Leary" means "keeper of the calves."

      Fiona means parents care enough about being respectable in Ireland to give her an Irish name, but are not secure enough to give here the more upper class (and abroad unpronounceable) "Saoirse". "O'Leary" means that the family have not yet married into a high enough status clan to afford a double barrelled, post independence gaelcised name like "McDonagh-Ã" FaolÃin".

      This necessitated sending the child abroad for better qualifications,

  • I'm itchin' to try it on the ol' Wingding font

  • Some people (big companies) get all bent out of shape if you rip off their font without a license to do so.

    • If the company is using a custom font for their logotype, it's not going to be in the database this uses (and even if it was, you're not going to be able to find the font unless the company provides it to you, or someone leaked it, in which case using it is already copyright violation, but knowing its name isn't).

      If the company is using a publicly available font for their logotype, they have no grounds for complaint if someone else uses the same font. I can't start "Pfhorrest Comics" with a logotype of just

    • That was my thought at first. However, if you RTFS (I know, I know, this is Slashdot, where people post first and RTFS later if at all.) you'll find that all it does is identify the font if it can. If you want to use the font, you still have to get a copy of it, and if it's a custom font, you probably won't be able to find it.
  • ...that not too long from now if this does go into mass production that the Government and CSI Organizations will use this technology to match handwriting samples at the touch of a button. Note: My comment my be misplaced as I do not keep up with CSI Field Technologies.
  • Seriously? A dedicated device for this? In 2016? It should just be a smartphone app. No need for separate hardware.

    Lame.
  • There are several smartphone apps, Color Grab being one of them, that let you identify colors at any distance, no extra hardware required. Btw. I suspect the video to be faked. It would require very advanced AI to recognize any font instantly. Usually you have to guide the software by identifying some of the characters before a match is trying to be found.
    • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

      Not advanced at all. I just taught a workshop on neural networks using identifying both the location and value of several handwritten digits scattered randomly in a larger image as an example problem.

      Fonts are easier because they're much more consistent than handwritten characters.

      • Where is the OCR software that first identifies the font, then reconstructs the text until it's pixel perfect? I recently evaluated a selection of current OCR software and was most disappointed to see how little progress has been made in the last decade.
        • by jabuzz ( 182671 )

          Interesting thought. One would imagine that identifying the font first should radically improve the accuracy of the OCR on all those difficult bits like 1/l etc.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    or you have a refence colour in shot, your RGB values are completely fucking meaningless

  • But can this gadget accurately determine what font SpaceX uses for it's on-screen telemetry display? I've tried this several times using several online recognizers and none of them get it right.

  • This must be made a specific instance of a general object recognition. With AI and image recognition seen great progress in the last 4 or 5 years, sending a picture to the backend should give all details of it. [eg send a pic of a flower, it should tell me what it is]
  • Sadly, unless you spring for the premium version, it will say every font is Comic Sans.

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