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Man Sued For $30K Over $40 Printer He Sold On Craigslist (usatoday.com) 571

An anonymous reader cites an article on USA Today: Selling a used, black-and-white printer through Craigslist seemed simple and straightforward to Doug Costello. It wasn't. What the 66-year-old Massachusetts man didn't know then is that he would spend the next 6 and a half years embroiled in a complicated and confusing legal dispute in Indiana over that printer, which, according to its buyer, was broken. He would find himself liable for about $30,000 in damages. He would pay a lawyer at least $12,000 in his battle to escape the legal mess. And it all started with a piece of hardware he sold online for about $40 in 2009. With shipping and other costs, the total was less than $75, according to court records.Gersh Zavodnik, the printer's buyer, has been described as "prolific, abusive litigant" who has brought dozens of lawsuits against individuals and businesses. He often asks for "astronomical" damages.
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  • by msmash ( 4491995 ) Works for Slashdot on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:07PM (#52260723)
    For some reason, this whole fiasco reminds me of this scene [youtube.com] from Office Space.
    • by AntronArgaiv ( 4043705 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:14PM (#52260793)

      For some reason, this whole fiasco reminds me of this scene [youtube.com] from Office Space.

      With the part of the printer played by Mr. Zavodnik?

    • by Spazmania ( 174582 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @05:20PM (#52262457) Homepage

      "Because Costello did not respond to all three requests for admissions within 30 days of receiving them, and did not ask for an extension of time, as required by Indiana trial rules, Costello admitted to the liabilities and damages by default. He also did not appear at a July 2013 hearing, according to court records."

      Courts don't like to be ignored. It's the worst possible thing you can do.

      Respond promptly and equivocate: "I do not concede your claim. I expect to deny your claim." Equivocation lets you back away from a statement later if it turns out you were wrong or if the statement could have had some unintended legal meaning.

      • Re:Default (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Enigma2175 ( 179646 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @05:38PM (#52262557) Homepage Journal

        The issue here is that there is no evidence that he was ever served with the requests for admissions (he says he wasn't):

        "Costello said he never received the requests for admissions and was not notified of the hearing."

        I don't know how process serving works in that state, but in my state there is a record if someone was served with a summons or legal document. It seems inane that there appears to be no such verification in this case.

  • US Legal system (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:08PM (#52260733)

    Where it's not about whether you win or lose, it's about bankrupting the opponent

    • Re:US Legal system (Score:5, Interesting)

      by pete6677 ( 681676 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @03:06PM (#52261317)

      Does it work differently in any other country?

      • Re:US Legal system (Score:5, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 06, 2016 @03:26PM (#52261521)

        Yes they do. In some countries loser has to pay for all court costs. This prevents people and companies from bring a suit they know they will lose.

      • Re:US Legal system (Score:4, Interesting)

        by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @03:34PM (#52261615)

        Does it work differently in any other country?

        In many other countries, individuals and small businesses have little or no access to the legal system. America's legal system can be abused, but it is still superior to most others. It is not difficult to defend yourself without going bankrupt. You need to educate yourself, and do as much of the work yourself. If you trust your lawyer, you will definitely get screwed. In most legal situations, your primary adversary is your own lawyer, not the opposing party. Online resources have made it far easier to go pro per.

        The USAToday article is very biased. The defendant mostly screwed himself by losing documents (and then claiming he never received them) and not responding before deadlines. The courts don't put up with that crap. The facts don't matter if you don't deliver them to the court. He was an idiot, and he left the court to decide based on a preponderance of the evidence that all came from the plaintiff.

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by Anonymous Coward
          You didn't finish reading the article, did you?

          The appeals court threw out that $30k judgment as having no basis in reality, and 'The appeals court ordered the trial court to hold a hearing to determine whether the case should be dismissed "based on Zavodnik's repeated, flagrant, and continuing failure to comply with Indiana's rules of procedure." '
        • That doesn't explain why the courts of this particular area kept allowing an obvious legal troll to keep filing follow-ons to a case that he lost at the outset. This Zavodnick character must know dirt about some judge's family to get preferential access to the legal system.

        • If you trust your lawyer, you will definitely get screwed. In most legal situations, your primary adversary is your own lawyer, not the opposing party.

          This happened to a friend of mine. She lost an arm and part of her vision in an accident, and also got PTSD. The lawyer she contracted to do the work to get her disability benefits showed in court one week after the deadline. Now she's unable to work and unable to receive disability benefits.

          She tried then finding a lawyer that would help her get this overturned. No lawyer she contacted wanted to touch the case, because they all said they work for workers' compensation, so they cannot do anything against it

      • Re:US Legal system (Score:5, Insightful)

        by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @03:34PM (#52261619)

        Does it work differently in any other country?

        Yes. In countries where the loser pays the legal fees automatically by default there's a lot less of this sue over every stupid thing bullshit.

        • Re:US Legal system (Score:4, Insightful)

          by AuMatar ( 183847 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @04:00PM (#52261839)

          In countries where the loser pays the legal fees, the person with more money is never taken to court because suing will bankrupt the little guy if he loses. I'm not going to sue for my $500 loss if I have a 10% chance of losing and he'll spend 30k defending himself. Loser pays means that poor and middle class can't seek justice at all.

          • Re:US Legal system (Score:4, Informative)

            by gnasher719 ( 869701 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @04:23PM (#52262051)

            In countries where the loser pays the legal fees, the person with more money is never taken to court because suing will bankrupt the little guy if he loses. I'm not going to sue for my $500 loss if I have a 10% chance of losing and he'll spend 30k defending himself. Loser pays means that poor and middle class can't seek justice at all.

            In Germany, for a $500 case the cost will be around $100. The lawyer won't do much work, and the judge will also not do much work, for a $500 case.

          • Why not sue if you have a 90% chance of winning? Since the loosing part pays you as the little guy have no problem loaning money to match that 30k spent by the defendant. I have heard of very little "the poor and middle calls can't seek justice" in my country which have loser pays all rules for civil suits. What have happened though is a few cases where people really didn't understand the rules and where shocked when they lost and had to pay the other sides costs.
          • Re:US Legal system (Score:5, Interesting)

            by Dan1701 ( 1563427 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @05:22PM (#52262471)

            In Britain, this sort of thing would probably be dealt with in a Small Claims Court, and would cost next to nothing for the defendant to represent himself. The outrageous damages would be viewed by a judge as outright silliness and dismissed; even were the defendant to lose, the most that would happen would be the cost of his printer plus the other part's costs (which he could apply to the court to "tax" if he felt them unreasonable).

            This sort of thing would also likely get the serial litigant declared to be a Vexatious Litigant. the Uk Government keeps a public list of these people, who must seek a court's permission before embarking on any litigation whatsoever, because they have shown themselves to be time-wasters in the past.

            • In the US legal system (i.e. this case), it was dealt with in small claims court without lawyers and the respondent (Costello) won. As far as he was concerned, it was over.

              Then the guy who sued appealed by suing again in a higher court. Depending on which version of events you want to believe, Costello then ignored everything about that new lawsuit (including "settlement" offers) and didn't respond at all, or else the guy suing him never actually sent him the papers.

              In order to speed up civil trials, the co

            • the Uk Government keeps a public list of these people

              An easily accessible public list [www.gov.uk].

          • In countries where the loser pays the legal fees, the person with more money is never taken to court because suing will bankrupt the little guy if he loses. I'm not going to sue for my $500 loss if I have a 10% chance of losing and he'll spend 30k defending himself. Loser pays means that poor and middle class can't seek justice at all.

            Of course not. That would be stupid. And we're not stupid. First for a $500 loss (that the courts don't want to deal with, thank you very much, that's what insurance companies are for if it's that type of matter), there is a simplified "small claims" court proceedings, where costs are much less, and you pay your own lawyer if you want/need one.

            For larger cases it's indeed loser pays, but there are set fees and a reasonableness standard. So you can't really "outspend" your opponent and hope to claim all that

      • Re:US Legal system (Score:5, Informative)

        by sg_oneill ( 159032 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @03:44PM (#52261707)

        Does it work differently in any other country?

        Here in west australia you would bring a claim like this to the small claims tribunal, or in other states magistrates course. You generally dont employ lawyers at these things, and its largely a couple of people resolving a dispute in front of the judge whos primarily there to mediate the dispute rather than award outrageous and punitive damages. Its pretty cheap, and appropriate for small claims.

        The littigant would have been awarded $75 (the amount he paid) and possibly a refund of his court fees.

        • Re:US Legal system (Score:5, Interesting)

          by SDF-7 ( 556604 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @04:43PM (#52262213)

          And that's how these things would normally be handled here as well.

          In fact, it is mentioned in the article that it *did* go to small claims first, where the plaintiff asked for a ridiculous court-maximum of $6000 (for a $75 online purchase). That got found in favor of the defendant after the plantiff apparently admitted to destroying/disposing of the printer and had no further evidence of it not being as described in the sale.

          Only after he lost in small claims did he somehow then take it to additional courts. I have a few thoughts based on the Indiana Supreme Court actually knowing this guy by name and commenting on his usage of the courts -- but the words "libel suit" are coming to my mind so I'll just keep my impressions to myself.

        • Re:US Legal system (Score:4, Insightful)

          by torkus ( 1133985 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @05:13PM (#52262407)

          In the US, people sometimes bring a lawyer to TRAFFIC court if they want a good chance of having the ticket dismissed.

          Litigation is big, HUGE business. Where else can you be on the hook for more than $10,000 for downloading a single mp3?

      • Re:US Legal system (Score:4, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 06, 2016 @03:44PM (#52261709)

        Does it work differently in any other country?

        I don't know about other countries but in here in Finland you can only sue for real damages and costs, not astronomic sums like this. So here you could sue for 40 dollars plus legal costs in this case.

      • Re:US Legal system (Score:5, Interesting)

        by gnasher719 ( 869701 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @04:20PM (#52262037)

        Does it work differently in any other country?

        In Germany, the judge first figures out how much we are arguing about, here: $30,000. Or $29,955 if the guy offered to return the $45. Then the judge looks up what the fees or the court and the lawyers would be for a $30,000 case, maybe $3,000 altogether. That's what court and lawyers get (court is not free).

        Should the judge order a payment of $60, that's 0.2% of what they argued about, then the defendent pays $60 plus 0.2% of the cost (court and both lawyers), that's another six dollars, while the plaintiff gets $60 and pays 99.8% of the cost, that is $2,994.,

        That's why people in Germany don't go to court and ask for ridiculous amounts of money.

    • Re:US Legal system (Score:5, Informative)

      by neghvar1 ( 1705616 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @04:58PM (#52262317)
      That is how Scientology works. "The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than win. The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is no authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, or course, ruin him utterly" - L. Ron Hubbard, The Scientologist, a Manual on the Dissemination of Material, 1955
  • Shipping? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:10PM (#52260747)

    So, you left a paper trail... Craigslist sales should always be in person, cash, and otherwise as anonymous as possible. Use a separate gmail account, fake name, protect yourself.

  • We need Loser pays (Score:5, Insightful)

    by myth24601 ( 893486 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:13PM (#52260791)

    Loser pays would tamp down on a lot of people who use the process to punish people.

    • by jeff4747 ( 256583 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:21PM (#52260879)

      Loser pays would also make it basically impossible to sue any entity that has more money than you. The risk would be far too great, even if you had a legitimate dispute.

      Let the judge award "loser pays" only after meeting a high threshold. Such as in situations where no rational person would consider it a legitimate dispute.

      • by mark-t ( 151149 )
        How is there any risk if you have a legitimate case? The only reason a legitimate case would lose is if they didn't have the resources to adequately present their case, and if the loser pays, then this ceases to be an issue.
        • It's not about the legitimacy of the case. It's about the realization that a large corporation can overwhelm any legal team a typical individual could hire, and that even in a fair system the corporation is risking far less than the individual. (As in, "a tiny percentage of one quarter's profits" against "entire life savings"). There's a big difference between "I'm confident enough to risk 10% of the quarter's legal budget" and "I'm confident enough to risk everything I own".

          My apologies for not posting thi

        • by Rakarra ( 112805 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @03:19PM (#52261425)

          How is there any risk if you have a legitimate case? The only reason a legitimate case would lose is if they didn't have the resources to adequately present their case, and if the loser pays, then this ceases to be an issue.

          I Am Not A Lawyer, but my husband is. He often counsels his clients to go into settlement with decent terms, even if they don't get every last thing they want. But sometimes they are stubborn.. they refuse to give the other side anything at all, because they are so convinced of their righteousness. But the court system is a crapshoot, even if you have a good case. First, it's going to be pricey regardless of the outcome. Second... you don't know what a jury will believe. You don't know when you'll get the judge on a bad day. You don't know if your client will lose his temper and shout the wrong thing. There are a lot of variables that you just CAN'T control.

          I fear a loser-pays system because you can be in the right, and you can still lose a case. You can still get burned. It's a risk, and sometimes risks pay off, and sometimes they don't.

          Also, under loser-pays, the little guy might be guilty of the offense, but it's a very minor offense -- like, say, sharing a song on a P2P network. That small offense would involve exorbitant fees for the loser.

          When people think "loser pays," they're usually thinking "the big bad rich guy pays for the legal costs of the little guy who got wronged." But the flip side of the coin is that justice is not perfect even if everyone is entitled to it.

          • by Jack_of_Shadow ( 952121 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @04:12PM (#52261951)
            this, oh this is so right! My mom handled a case wherein three guys had a $10 million dollar inheritance... after 12 years one of the brothers hadn't seen 1 dollar, so he hired my mom... She asked him what he wanted to get, his reply, "$10,000,000!!!!!" She told him that at the very most he could expect was 1/3rd and probably a lot less because the brother who had the money, was the Executor and he is legally allowed to pay himself a 'reasonable' fee for managing the money. He has been for the last 12 years. So chances are that even if he won, he'd only get 1/3rd of what was left! He decided, against her judgment to go ahead... With demanding 10 million. The judge threw out that case, but allowed him to bring another... he brought another with my mom as his lawyer. This time asking for 5 million. Judge threw it out. Allowed him to bring another. over two years he kept telling my mom to keep bringing ridiculous lawsuits that she kept telling him would not go forward... After $17,000 in legal fees, he got awarded 1.3rd of what was left, so he got $10,000. He refused to pay my mom. She sued him, the judge awarded her the $17,000. So he won and was out $7,000.
    • This works in theory, but it would be terrible in practice. Imagine if you had a good reason to sue Microsoft, for instance. They can spend millions defending themselves, and in our justice system, unfortunately, throwing more money at the problem is correlated with winning more. You could have a legitimate claim, they get out of it on a technicality, and now you're on the hook for millions.

      Perhaps we could work something like: loser pays the min of the plaintiff or defendant legal fees to the winner. So in

    • Loser pays would tamp down on a lot of people who use the process to punish people.

      No, it would just ensure that every large corporation would show up with a team of 50 lawyers to every case. Knowing that you could end up paying each one of them $500/ hour if you lose because your lawyer was having a bad day, or the judge made a mistake. Including the amount of time each would be billing for for case prep and such, it would mean financial ruin from most people if they lose.

      Essentially it would be the end of any recourse for people when it comes to large corporations.

      • Has it worked that way in other countries with Loser pays?

      • by PRMan ( 959735 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:39PM (#52261073)

        What we need is loser pays the winner the lowest of the 2 sets of legal fees. Let MegaCorp show up with 50 lawyers. If you have 1, that's all they're getting.

        Double legal fees will be painful for the small guy, but small enough of a risk to give the right people hope if the case is strong enough.

        Likewise, if small guy wins, you collect your legal fees and pay nothing to your lawyer. As it should be. Winning a court case should never be a Pyrrhic victory.

        • by tsstahl ( 812393 )

          You have just incentivized the attorneys to drive costs through the roof. After all, somebody else is going to pay them eventually!

      • by gnasher719 ( 869701 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @04:37PM (#52262159)

        No, it would just ensure that every large corporation would show up with a team of 50 lawyers to every case. Knowing that you could end up paying each one of them $500/ hour if you lose because your lawyer was having a bad day, or the judge made a mistake. Including the amount of time each would be billing for for case prep and such, it would mean financial ruin from most people if they lose.

        Again, how this would play out in Germany for a â500 case: This team of 50 lawyers turn up in court. Judge looks at his watch. They all tell the judge their names. Judge decides that this is enough time spent on a â500 case and sends them all home, no claims stated, case lost.

  • by Crashmarik ( 635988 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:15PM (#52260805)

    Along with
    "No warranty from seller"
    "Seller assumes no liability"
    "All sales final"
    "No Refunds"

    • by Kjella ( 173770 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @03:11PM (#52261353) Homepage

      None of them would have helped here, since the actual facts never went to court. Basically if someone files a crazy lawsuit and motions you must respond or lose by default. The purpose is to avoid stalling and to get as many things as possible settled so the court can only deal with the issues in dispute, but the "fallback strategy" is not good. If the motion is not answered it should go to the court for a court order, if the court order is not answered it should go to contempt. Having a "non-action" count as admission should be a last resort.

  • for district attorneys to file criminal charges against those who are clearly and repeatedly abusing the civil litigation process. Tens of thousands of dollars claimed over a forty dollar printer? It's hard to view this as anything other than theft, and thieves have done hard jail time for far lower dollar values than those sought by the plaintiff in this case. Civil law shouldn't be a lottery, and criminal law should have the power to prevent people from treating it as one.

    • Disbar the plaintiff's lawyer.

      • Disbar the plaintiff's lawyer.

        FTA: [usatoday.com]

        The printer's buyer was Gersh Zavodnik, a 54-year-old Indianapolis man known to many in the legal community as a frequent lawsuit filer who also represents himself in court.

        Not sure how they disbar the guy if he's not a lawyer...

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by Kierthos ( 225954 )

          If he gets ruled as a vexatious litigant, they basically have to get a judge to sign off on every lawsuit they bring before it can go court. Which can end up making more work for whatever judge or judges get saddled with reading through that sort of nonsense....

  • by martinux ( 1742570 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:16PM (#52260821)

    While I am not an expert in the US legal system it seems like having the loser pay the legal bills might reduce some of this predatory litigation.

    The question is, how much influence does the US electorate have over this kind of decision? People who rely on winning through bankruptcy are also the people who have the kind of money to lobby to maintain the current system.

    • Loser pays would also make it basically impossible to sue any entity that has more money than you. The risk would be far too great, even if you had a legitimate dispute.

      Let the judge award "loser pays" only after meeting a high threshold. Such as in situations where no rational person would consider it a legitimate dispute.

      • by mark-t ( 151149 )
        If you believe you have a legitimate dispute, then why would you feel that you could not present it adequately to convince a judge, and obtain a ruling in your favor? And if you did not feel you could adequately present it to convince a judge, why do you feel that your case is legitimate in the first place?
        • For example, "gay marriage" and wedding cakes. Plaintiff believes that any public business has to serve them. Which is true. Defendant believes that the First Amendment gives them the right to refuse service to people. Which is also true.

          Both believe they have a legitimate case. The intersection of those edge cases will result in a loser, despite both having a legitimate case

      • This is why a cap can be placed on recoverable fees and has in many parts of the world.

        http://www.policyarchive.org/h... [policyarchive.org]

        In short, a rich company hoping to scare off litigation by advertising a team of expensive lawyers or an extended litigation period would not be able to as those lawyers would recognise that they would only be able to share in a limited, small pot of cash.

    • by LWATCDR ( 28044 )

      "While I am not an expert in the US legal system it seems like having the loser pay the legal bills might reduce some of this predatory litigation."
      The problem is that it would also prevent a lot of justifiable litigation.
      Would you risk taking a big company to court if you lost you had to pay their costs?

  • Vexatious Litigant (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Typically this is solved by labeling the plaintiff as a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vexatious_litigation Vexatious Litigant. Then it becomes harder for the plaintiff to file lawsuits.

  • The problem comes from the assumption by the lawmakers that businesses were always honest. They basically said anyone that doesn't answer a legal demand must be guilty, but they made no attempt to ensure that the legal demands were a) actually sent and b) believed to be real, rather than a typical scare tactic used by con men.

    The lawmakers in question should be flooded with legal demands from non-existent cases to assist them in learning the era of their ways.

  • The winning technique used by the plaintiff was thus:

    1. Send a letter to the target asking him to admit fault and owing a certain amount of money ($30K, $600K, whatever).
    2. Wait for him to not respond in 30 days
    3. Voila, by Indiana law, this not-responding is equivalent to the admission being sought.
    4. Profit, obviously.

    The judge, who awarded him $30K (plus interest), acknowledged the amount is "seemingly high" and the judgment "may seem extreme for the breach of contract for the purchase of a printer." But he wrote that he's constrained by how the Supreme Court had previously interpreted a state trial rule, called Rule 36 [in.gov], which sets the 30-day deadline for responding to requests for admissions.

    The appeal court noted:

    "He did not send requests claiming $30,000 and $300,000 and $600,000 in damages because he believes those figures are legally justified and thought Costello might agree," Vaidik wrote. "He sent them because he hoped Costello would not respond, rendering the matters admitted..."

    Yes, he did, you dimwits. You sat on that rule for years and saw nothing wrong with it. You saw nothing wrong with it applied by your fellow pedigreed lawyers acting just as predatory — if only a little less obviously — against others. Suddenly, a man comes around filing his own lawsuits, representing himself in court — and you find yourself bound by your own arcane rules.

    "Oh, but we did not mean for it be used that way." Well, you should not have written it that way then...

    Whether the sold printer was broken, whether the seller really did try to sell a lemon — that's small potatoes. What pan Zavodnik exposed was the incompetence of Indiana's judges. Hurrah for the hacker!

    • The way to prove laws are unjust is not to make it a terrible hardship for an innocent bystander. That makes you far worse than a badly written law.

  • by mpoulton ( 689851 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:27PM (#52260941)
    Anybody can sue anybody for anything. That's how the system works. To counterbalance the potential for abuse in such a system, filers of frivolous suits are often subject to awards of attorney's fees plus sanctions for dragging blameless defendants into court. What you cannot do is bungle your defense on the assumption that a judge will eventually see you're being screwed and throw the case out. How is a judge supposed to adjudicate a dispute between two unrepresented parties who don't know or follow the rules, and both claim they're right? This guy got himself into a huge procedural mess by failing to respond properly in his first response to the lawsuit. If you get sued, especially by a litigious moron, hire an attorney immediately. These things NEVER get easier to handle later on, and it is NEVER better to try it yourself first. The best defenses to ridiculous lawsuits MUST be raised immediately, correctly, and aggressively. You want the system to work differently? Talk to your legislators. Until then, lawyer up.
  • by OpenSourced ( 323149 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:42PM (#52261089) Journal

    Edens acknowledged the amount is "seemingly high" and the judgment "may seem extreme for the breach of contract for the purchase of a printer." But he wrote that he's constrained by how the Supreme Court had previously interpreted a state trial rule

    He certainly didn't find himself constrained by common sense.

  • He should counter-sue for barratry, libel, slander, arson, extortion, jaywalking and anything else he can think of.

    About a million - nah, make it two - should be about right.

  • How is this not Barratry or Vexatious Litigation?

  • The RIAA... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by OakDragon ( 885217 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @03:12PM (#52261365) Journal
    The RIAA should have this guy on the payroll.
  • INS (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Major Blud ( 789630 ) on Monday June 06, 2016 @03:53PM (#52261783) Homepage

    Did anyone else notice this?

    "Zavodnik, a native of Ukraine who moved to the United States in 1987 under a grant of political asylum"

    I'm assuming that he went to the U.S. to escape the U.S.S.R., but that fell to pieces a few years after arriving. I don't know what his current immigration status is, but wouldn't asylum eventually be revoked? Seems like you wouldn't get granted asylum from a government that no longer exist (barring the current political crisis with Crimea, which occurred over 20 years after he left).

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