Canonical Reveals the BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet (omgubuntu.co.uk) 118
LichtSpektren writes: Several tech sites have now broke the news that Canonical has revealed their BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet. Joey-Elijah Sneddon builds the hype: "A stunning 10.1-inch IPS touch display powered a full HD 1920×1200 pixel resolution at 240 ppi. Inside is a 64-bit MediaTek MT8163A 1.5GHz quad-core processor, 2GB of RAM, and 16GB of internal memory. A micro SD memory card is included, adding storage expansion of up to 64GB. Furthermore, the converged slate includes an 8-megapixel rear camera with autofocus and dual LED flash (and capable of recording in full 1080p), plus a front facing 3-megapixel camera for video chats, vlogs and selfies. Front facing Dolby Atmos speakers will provide a superior sound experience during movie playback. The M10 measure 246mm x 171mm x 8.2mm, weighs just 470 grams — lighter than the Apple iPad Air — and has a 7280 mAh battery to give up to 10 hours of use. ... Tablet mode offers a side stage for running two apps side-by-side, plus a full range of legacy desktop applications, mobile apps and scopes. LibreOffice, Mozilla Firefox, The GIMP and Gedit are among a 'curated collection of legacy apps' to ship pre-installed on the tablet. It will also be possible for developers and enthusiasts to install virtually any ARM compatible app available on Ubuntu using the familiar 'apt-get' command." A photo gallery can also be seen on his website here. The price is not yet announced, but the Android version of the same tablet is currently on sale for €229.
Excellent! (Score:2, Informative)
Shut up and take my money!!1
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Well said.
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Those specs are so 2 years ago. I was reading and was more like "meh" than anything else.
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But to keep things in perspective: Android is Java, and adds a huge amount of cruft and overhead to the underlying Linux OS. I've been wondering for a long time why we weren't seeing plain native Linux tablets, without all that Google junk.
As long as I have LibreOffice, Firefox, and a few other apps for it I'm good to go. I could wish for a more plain-Linux experience than Ubuntu, but if it
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Storage is always going to be an issue. Without integrated Cloud/Web Storage (like Google Drive, Box, Dropbox ...) even the SD card option is lame. As for Libre/Open Office, those are nice, but having live documents I can edit from just about anywhere is a huge benefit for me, and "Office" suites no longer suffice in today's world (IMHO)
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Storage is always going to be an issue.
I'm not convinced that's true. Today you can get a 128GB Micro SDHC, which is pretty darned good for storage for a mobile device. Even if it only takes 32GB (most modern devices accept at least that much), it's not a problem to carry around a few Micro SDs.
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Still denying basic science, I see?
Quite the contrary. But I notice you still have no sense of humor.
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So you deny saying this?
I'm not denying anything. Why should I? For that matter, why should I even reply to you, after you've harassed me off-topic in a thread which had absolutely nothing to do with either you, or this subject?
Learn to behave like a civilized human being, and maybe people would be more inclined to have a civil discussion with you.
But I've told you that before, many times, to no avail.
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I will not apologize for cussing at sociopathic behavior.
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Fascinating. Jane/Lonny's neverending libelous harassment of many scientists is apparently "civilized" in Janeland. But asking Jane simple questions and debunking Lonny Eachus's baseless accusations is apparently not "civilized" in Janeland.
What you SEEM to fail to understand is that there is a difference between criticizing someone, and libel. Libel is a deliberate untruth. I have demonstrated many times that you intentionally post public lies about people. I don't. As much as reasonably possible I tell fact- and evidence-based truth.
Am I wrong sometimes? It happens. But not intentionally, and when I've found that it has, I correct myself. You don't.
The reason I wrote "seem" is that you really do understand it. You just use pretend ign
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How fascinating that Lonny Eachus projects his own sociopathy onto others. Lonny, you cuss at many people at the drop of a hat. The only common element in all those exchanges is a sociopath named Jane/Lonny Eachus.
Nice try, but no. There is no "drop of a hat". It takes trolling and harassment before I swear at people. You have been one of the worst offenders, as this latest lie of yours demonstrates.
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How fascinating that Lonny Eachus projects his own sociopathy onto others. Lonny, you cuss at many people at the drop of a hat. The only common element in all those exchanges is a sociopath named Jane/Lonny Eachus.
What I find fascinating is that your link is to an entire collection of tweets which are, just like nearly all of your other links, taken completely out of context.
It doesn't show the prior trolling or harassment over time, or in a few cases yes, just plain "dumbass" things people say. Again, you are personally one of the worst offenders.
And simultaneously too cowardly to show us who you are. Even though I already know.
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Try to provide a link to back up your accusation.
I've done it many times. Not much point in doing it yet again. I have records of them if needed.
Again, do you really believe that? Lonny, you recently insisted that you don't need to correct yourself even though you gave your word that you would.
I told you very clearly I would *IF* you stopped behaving like an arrogant, lying asshole, as is your usual bent. That hasn't happened yet, and it's beginning to look like it never will. So you'll just have to wait.
I will remind you, just in the way of illustration, that this whole conversational thread began with YOU trolling ME [slashdot.org] in a discussion which had nothing to do with you or any of this. You made no atte
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At the drop of a hat, Lonny.
Nope. "It's what you want to hear" is a gross insult. The clear insinuation is that Lonny did not use logic or evidence, but made the comment out of emotion or stupidity.
"Dumbass" was simply a reply in like kind. It is a little more direct, but it was no more of an insult than his.
Once again: it takes either provocation (which was given in this case), or a statement of such sheer stupidity that it's clearly called for. Generally, that's something pretty darned stupid.
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So this cussing was totally justified in Janeland?
Yes. See the explanation in my reply to your other comment about the same thing.
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No, you haven't. You keep claiming you have, but that's just a delusional fantasy. Seriously, try to provide a single link as an example.
I really don't give a damn if you don't remember. I do. And I have records to back it up. That's all I care about.
Other than that, and a short reply to your other comment, as I said before I have nothing further to say. Your false claims that I have "never" done this or that are just bait to try to get me to continue responding to your tedious trolling.
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Do you see how "a little more direct" is a Jane-ism for "escalation"?
There was no escalation. It was a reply in kind. The fact that the original insult was in politer words doesn't make it any less an insult. Any more than a person who says polite words when they shoot you isn't shooting you. The very notion is ridiculous. But then, that's what I've come to expect from you.
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What tablet would have bought with a 64 bit ARM processor 2 years ago.
iPad Air back in November of 2013.
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Why would I "try" that date? That's the release date of the Air 2, idiot.
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Shut up and take my money!!1
Sorry, I'm not ready to forgive Shuttleworth for that whole Unity fiasco just yet.
Besides, I hardly think he needs my money, he has quite enough of his own.
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He's like a cat with a laser pointer, else this would have been in market two years ago. Speed of execution is not a strength on that platform, it seems.
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The beauty about Ubuntu, is that it doesn't matter what Shuttleworth wants to do, you can do something different.
I won't hate Shuttleworth unless he takes choices away from me.
Please really make them available in the US (Score:1)
And the phones too.
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Why? just get a google Nexus 4 and install the ubuntu phone image. that wy you can find what the rest of us have.... it sucks and then you re-flash back to android.
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Why? just get a google Nexus 4 and install the ubuntu phone image. that wy you can find what the rest of us have.... it sucks and then you re-flash back to android.
LOL, between you and "Try it for free". by truck_soccer, I'll step lightly here thnx.
Re:Please really make them available in the US (Score:4, Informative)
This.
I tried out Ubuntu touch on my Nexus10. It was OK, and probably would have been decent if this was what tablets came out as, but it was just too different from any kind of UI that has been done up to now that it was overly jarring to user perception. No "home screen" with icons / app drawers, everything looks like it is in a file manager that has no options, and recommending being set up to use a pin for screen locking - and then never popping up the pin pad on the lock screen, forcing you to use the keyboard numbers to put in your pin where what the deal killer was for me.
That and the "app store" was a horribly under-populated joke, and even if you installed "scopes" it was never really explained how / what to do to use them. it lasted about a day before I went back to stock rooted android.
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I tried to use it as a phone for 1 week. Even the version back in November you would still get the phone ringing but no way to answer it as the phone application refused to launch.
But does it run Linux? (Score:3)
Ducks....
I don't care much about tablets but what's with always the small storage capacity and low ram? For power consumption?
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So you'll store everything in the Ubuntu Cloud. Oh right they killed that...
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I don't know if I'd call having a limited amount of pre-compiled software a 'walled garden' per se. I mean, you can grab the source (for most anything you'd be wanting on a tablet - at least that I can think of) and compile it yourself. Hell, you can even upload and share your compiled work with others or, if you want, you can compile things and get them included in the repository so that others can install them with apt. (That might require a bit of work and playing well with others - I'm actually, somehow
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It's okay for the price I suppose... Basically average mid range specs, memory is a bit low but it's a cheap device for the size. A Surface competitor this ain't, it's in another league spec wise.
I think it's main problem will be competing with the many other similar tablets in this spec/price range, many of which can run Windows or Linux. Business will want Windows, consumers will want Windows or Android because they have never heard of Ubuntu or Linux... It's a reasonable device but a hard sell.
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I think it's main problem will be competing with the many other similar tablets in this spec/price range, many of which can run Windows or Linux.
Do you have any links? This intrigues me.
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Search Amazon for "Windows tablet".
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that you're forced to use at work
You need to get out of the basement a little more. The latest Surface devices have pretty much attained universal praise. This tablet isn't even in the same league spec-wise. And yes, like Ubuntu is the OS of choice for PCs these days, right? Okay, to be fair, 2016 could be the Year of the Linux Desktop.
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consumers will want Windows or Android because they have never heard of Ubuntu or Linux
I think this runs a little deeper than consumer education. Consumers will want a modern spec'd device. This is 2 years ago at best. Consumers will want a mature app ecosystem.
Consumers will require 10 hours of battery life. Android has many restrictions on what apps can and cannot do based on conserving electrons. If you just run a bunch of desktop-developed Linux packages, I can guarantee you, you'll be looking at 4 hours of battery, if you are lucky. Probably less.
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Try it for free. (Score:1)
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Pack your bags Apple, Ubuntu is on the scene now (Score:1)
Okay, I don't thin Apple really has much to worry about except their pricing model.
This tablet can't be any worse than any version of Android on a tablet, given the quantity of Android Apps with a good tablet UI (not many at all).
Can it?
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plus it comes with Aquarius BBQ sauce so... bonus
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This tablet can't be any worse than any version of Android on a tablet, given the quantity of Android Apps with a good tablet UI (not many at all).
Please, explain what sort of app you are looking for, that isn't available on an Android tablet? Oh ... um ...
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A web browser that isn't awful. Anything that can run uMatrix would suffice. The only way to get a decent browser on Android is with a real linux chroot and X11 app (and the X11 app ruins Chromium's built-in touch support). All the native browsers are fucking horrible. FF for Android is arguably the best, and it's still awful, supporting only a tiny subset of FF addons (no NoScript, no uMatrix). Chrome for Android doesn't support extensions at all.
Ahh not a real ubuntu tablet but the "lite" toy (Score:5, Insightful)
Pass, I'll spend the same coin on a used surface pro 2 and install a full 64 bit ubuntu and get a dramatically better device.
Or get one of the china celeron based $199 windows tablets and install ubuntu if I really have to go for a cheap throw away.
I do not understand what they are after with a high price tablet running the mobile ubuntu.
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You can pair a mouse/keyboard and it becomes full Ubuntu.
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FTFS:
It will also be possible for developers and enthusiasts to install virtually any ARM compatible app available on Ubuntu using the familiar 'apt-get' command
It runs ARM, but beyond that it will run anything compiled for it.
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Linux on the surface Pro 1 or 2 makes the wifi more stable. It has been a nightmare for running windows on it because the marvell wireless chipset is a piece of crap that will lose its initial configuration the windows driver only loads it on install. the linux driver was modified to reload it on every single boot.
Blame microsoft for using the low grade dog food that is Marvell chipsets.
They had me at the 10.1" screen. (Score:2)
10.1" is just the perfect size for a tablet for me, Quad core at 1.5GHz I just don't think is going to be game worthy though. Rest is just a darn fine system.
24 days of suspend... (Score:2)
But does everything still work after you resume? :)
But more seriously, do they have a software repository that specifically caters to it? Ie: Have they vetted software and indicated which ones will not run like crap on a tablet? Microsoft has demonstrated repeatedly that trying to shoehorn desktop UI onto a tablet just does not work. Ubuntu created Unity, which helps with core OS usage, but what about individual apps?
A typical desktop app is annoying as hell when you're using fingers instead of a mouse.
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Oh, I just came across this [omgubuntu.co.uk] article that goes into some more usage details than what was included in the summary.
Battery (Score:2)
Is the battery user replaceable? Unless it is, I have ZERO interest. That goes for any tablet or phone.
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You're missing out on a lot of really good phones if that's your main criteria. I've had my z3 for 18 months and it's great. I'm sure i'll get another phone in the next couple of years and this'll probably still be working then. Not sure what I could have got instead that has a replaceable battery. Why is it important? Have you had a lot of problems with batteries in the past?
Firefox OS on this? (Score:2)
That'd be high specs for that little OS.
But expensive for a toy. Also, it's boring not to have a stylus.
4" Firefox OS smartphone, I've tried. Lacks a stylus and a bit tiring to hold the thing, as there is no stand. No apps is a feature. Well, the LCD screen sucks too (perhaps high end LCD is fine. Non-LCD would be better). I'm not used to these little stupid mobile things. Perhaps someone one day will have the brilliant idea to put left/right cursor keys on the virtual keyboard so you can go back and correc
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Perhaps someone one day will have the brilliant idea to put left/right cursor keys on the virtual keyboard so you can go back and correct part of a URL.
The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus have "cursor keys" (for left and right movement in a Text Field) on the "Landscape Mode" Keyboard Layout. The "key caps" look like "" but they are cursor keys.
Onboard with this idea (Score:4, Interesting)
I was kind of surprised when everything down to the touch screen and changing aspect with orientation worked great. Then it struck me: this thing would be fucking awesome with Gnome 3. Sure as shit it is. Every aspect of Gnome 3 almost seems intentionally designed for a tablet.I have made an effort to show it off to everyone from hackers to people who somehow believe that iOS is the internet and Steve Jobs made it. People are universally impressed. You can even use Google Now, albeit through a browser but even that seems insignificant to the overall experience. So I have been thinking for awhile now that perhaps there is no room for Linux to have a "year on the desktop" and perhaps that's not a bad thing. Perhaps it does not even matter. After all, I know very few people who have desktops and to lesser extent laptops these days.
I think this has massive potential to................... fall flat on it's face. If this ships with not only having Unity as the default, which of course it will, but does not even have Gnome 3 as an option then the crowd the are targeting - everyone - won't give a shit. Canonical has always aimed their sites toward some sort of common consumer legitimacy, but when it comes down to it, they only ever preach to the choir.
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Opinion noted, but could you maybe back it up with something other than itself?
why should he? he provided just as much evidence / facts as you did that unity sucks. none.
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Except they never made that accusation. They were quite specific in saying that it was their personal preference. They even went as far as to say they hate it but that they've no hate for the users. Hell, he even said it was a matter of personal preference. I've no idea why you'd piss in your knickers over someone saying that they don't like a DE.
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It's called being a hypocrite? He offers no explanation for his ire but then insists that someone else back up their opposite opinion. Duh much?
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Hmm... I don't know if he's being a hypocrite so much as he appears to be (legitimately) asking for more information? Given their initial post, they indicate a willingness to change their mind. So, I'm still not sure I agree with your assertion.
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why should someone offer more information to him, when he offers none himself.
person 1: i really like president obama, but i'm not going to say why.
person 2: i dislike obama.
person 1: you dislike obama? you'd better provide a good reason for that!
yep, sounds like a pretty reasonable discourse.
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I think that's a bit unfair. Person 1 indicated a willingness to actual learn and change their mind. You seemingly opted to ignore that. Tone counts, no?
Then again, maybe you're right? Maybe I'm misreading it. To me, it looks like a legit request for more information - by someone who's actually willing to take new information and process it and make new choices. That's a rarity.
Add to that the two of 'em are discussing things that are largely opinion based... So, yeah, it looks like a legit question and not
Re: Onboard with this idea (Score:2)
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I like LXDE for its simplicity and speed. I don't need (or want) "pretty" so much as I want functional. LXDE is functional for me. I'm even able to make it look good (in my view). Here's an image that I took a while back - it's "busy" but it's not normally that busy.
http://i.imgur.com/8u6dr2r.png [imgur.com]
The dock at the top only appears when I mouse-over the top and off-screen. That's not really a part of LXDE but I made it with the tools offered to manage task bars. Err... I'm not sure that was the goal of those wh
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What is the brand and model number of this funky convertible?
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NJNEE3O?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
Note that it uses a hard drive. It appears that disassembling it is straightforward, but I've never done it.
Why do they keep releasing this junk? (Score:1)
Ubuntu Phone, Firefox OS, Ubuntu Tablet...all are products that at first blush sound like cool open source devices, but then no one wants them.
Why not exploit the power of Linux and really make something irresistible that will sell like hotcakes. For example, many nerds have been longing a fresh successor to the Nokia Internet Tablets, especially the N900.
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huh? (Score:3)
have now broke the news
Surely they meant to say "broked."
Marketing triumph! (Score:2)
Canonical has revealed their BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet...
Ah, the name just rolls off of the tongue! "Say, is that the new BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet?"
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I think I'll buy one, and then drive back to "The Mews at Wuthering Heights" to surf the web.
Jolla refund (Score:2)