China's Flash Consumption Grows To 30%; 8TB SSDs Are Coming (computerworld.com) 67
Lucas123 writes: Seven of the world's top 10 smartphone vendors hail from China as does PC giant Lenovo, which is driving up the amount of NAND flash and DRAM the country consumes. This year alone, China is expected to purchase nearly 30% of the world's NAND flash and 21% of its DRAM, according to a report from TrendForce. Additionally, state-backed companies are trying to break into Western markets with SSDs. For example, Sage Microelectronics (SageMicro), a four-year-old company based in Hangzhou, China, plans to release an 8TB SSD next month that will be based on eMMC flash, and it said it will release a 10TB drive next year.
Update: 10/16 15:11 GMT by T : Note this interesting highlight from the second story linked above: SageMicron is selling not just drives that emphasize capacity over speed, but also a feature that will do doubt appeal to government agencies or private citizens intent on replicating Mission Impossible-style data wiping. The company's "Smart Destruction" function "can be set to erase encryption keys, perform a drive erase or physically fry the memory chips with a pulse of high voltage ... [and] can be triggered using a digital timer, a mobile phone instruction, or by simply pressing a button. 'Yes, it actually smokes sometimes when you push the button,' [Sage U.S. sales director Troy Rutt] said. 'People like that.'"
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Broken/missing editors?
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confirmed.
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I suspect the editors are missing links. [kinja.com]
Darn. Now I've got the theme tune from that stupid film in my head.
Re: Broken/missing links? (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2990446/data-storage-solutions/chinese-ssd-maker-eyes-us-market-for-8tb-drive-intro.html
china devalue currency to make the price good (Score:2)
china can just devalue currency to make the price good.
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China prices products in $US so to devalue their currency just earns them more of their own currency.
If they devalue, they earn the same US dollars, but pay less in wages and also for any raw materials that are sourced locally. So their profit margins go up, at least temporarily, until the resulting inflation starts pushing up wages and local prices.
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If they devalue, they earn the same US dollars, but pay less in wages and also for any raw materials that are sourced locally. So their profit margins go up, at least temporarily, until the resulting inflation starts pushing up wages and local prices.
Doesn't work that way. If they devalue relative to other currencies, the foreign exchange changes but in the short term, the internal value is approximately the same until the internal economy adjusts.
So relatively speaking, they'd actually be bringing in more $ (relative to their own currency), but paying the same for wages and domestic raw materials. Pretty much the opposite of what you said.
As a practical matter, their export prices would normally go down along with their currency, so the only thin
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Historically China has demonstrated the ability to grow substantially by keeping the value of their currency low compared to the US dollar
They would seem to have already refuted your position
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They won't pay the same for domestic raw materials because they are a global market and thus it would make more sense to export raw materials if they devalue their currency.
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It will be cheap, however the statement should read:
China, plans to release an 8TB* SSD next month
*8GB operating in loop mode
It's eMMC - an embedded SD card (Score:3)
The summary says it's eMMC. MMC is basically SD cards. eMMC is embedded MMC - basically an SD card built-in.
Right now on Newegg you can get a pair of 128GB cards (256GB) for $69.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/... [newegg.com]
So $280 per TB is current best pricing for MMC in Newegg.
Compare an actual SSD. Low-end best price at Newegg is $343 for a TB ($300 for 960GB), with better quality SSDs costing over $1,000.
Neither is TERRIBLY expensive for 8TB, if you really need 8TB of flash, but 8 1TB true SSDs would cost about th
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Every Company is state-owned (Score:2)
Almost every company in China is effectively state owned, or at least state-backed in part. They all work through and often raise debt from Bank of China, which is a *lot* more involved in day-to-day company financing than the Federal Reserve.
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Wow, China really is very different from "western" countries.
In China, most companies are effectively state owned.
In the west, most states are effectively company owned.
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Knock-offs? Knock-off of what? The Chinese drives are not knock-offs, they are uniquely branded. You seem to think that some manufacturer, or country, has a universal claim on electronic storage devices.
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Well, one of the problems mentioned in the article is that this SSD will not have cache RAM. So it is projected to be slow. Slow equals "not as good".
There are many ways to make something poorly.
Re: And they're going to ruin the name of SSDs (Score:2)
Is a slow catepillar truck having poor quality compared to ferrari? I bet 8TB disk has many uses and desktop drive is not one of the most important of those.
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Reliability will suck too as they are using SD card chips rather than the flash chips used in modern SSD.
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They won't know these are sub-par scams piggy backing on the current buzzwords. Giant SD cards pretending to be the latest SSD chips and with no cache.
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Those disks are almost purely enterprise SSD's, not for consumer.
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And the company says that the drives aren't as fast. They aren't claiming it. They've made the decision to have a large and slow drive versus a small and fast one. They are being open about the design choices they have made.
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I can't tell if this is a troll or ignorance.
Reliability? They are not 100%, but they have come a long since even a few years ago. In fact, they are more reliable than hard drives now, especially in conditions where shock is an issue (laptops.)
The difference is especially visible with virtualization. Stick a 7200 RPM SSD in place of a HDD, and VM performance will distinctly improve, just because the SSD can handle the random I/O, while the HDD is still spinning, waiting for access to the tracks with an empty cache.
I've never heard of an SSD with moving parts...
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I prefer spending the extra and getting the 15k RPM SSDs.
Unfortunately, it stopped there (Score:5, Funny)
It showed great growth up to 30%, but then it went back to the beginning and started overwriting itself.
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Sounds tasty too. Everyone loves a good Pita, I make mine into Gyros.
Decoupling of currency and Chinese economy (Score:3, Interesting)
Like I said over the years, China is being held down by its currency peg. They have removed it [slashdot.org] and now Chinese currency will be able to go up when the USD will go down, allowing Chinese not to absorb USA the inflation created by the USA Federal reserve and the government. I fully expect Chinese to start consuming all of the products they produce, not just Flash SSD and the prices for all consumable goods will go down in Chinese currency but up in other currencies, as the Chinese money will go up in value relative to other currencies.
Stock up on various non-perishable goods.
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I fully expect ... prices for all consumable goods will go down in Chinese currency but up in other currencies, as the Chinese money will go up in value relative to other currencies.
It's not that simple. That would be very bad for their economy, since they rely so much on exports. Higher value Chinese currency = higher-priced exports. That would be very bad for their economy, since it relies so much on exports.
Not so much if it didn't rely on exports, but that would be a very big change, over a long period of time.
Chinese currency (Score:2)
I genuinely fear for the US and the world when the Chinese currency finally corrects.
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WTF? SageMicro eMMC?!? (Score:1)
this makes no sense unless you need to dump a bunch of memory cards, who would want this?
like making a raid from a bunch of thumb drives LOL
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like making a raid from a bunch of thumb drives LOL
How bad would that be, really? Even the store-branded USB3 flash drives at Microcenter have reasonable benchmarks. I get 110 MB/sec sequential reads and 70 MB/sec sequential writes out of one.
I would expect something approaching 200 MB/sec sequential reads out of a simple mirror of them, a RAID-10 set of 4 ought to improve on that for reads and double write speeds.
As for practical value, OK, it's probably pretty low, but I don't think I paid all that much for a USB3 128 GB thumb drive. It's not hard to s
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The reliability of that type of flash memory is terrible. TLC cells aren't much better though, so I am not sure if it would be a bad thing, or very bad thing.
and its going to be pictures of food (Score:2)
and girls with the peace sign. welcome to china! Selfie stick central!
What about SAS3 / 12 Gbps? (Score:2)
Self-destruct, the ultimate DOS target. (Score:1)