A Look At GTA V PC Performance and Image Quality At 4K 72
MojoKid writes: Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto series has been wildly successful for many years now, offering some of the edgiest story lines, game play tactics and objectives the gaming industry has ever seen. With psychopathic main characters, you are left in the depraved communities of Los Santos and Blaine County, to walk a path few would dare choose in real life. And it's rather entertaining of course, that you're tasked with leaving a virtual world worse off than you found it, consequences be damned. But what does it take to run GTA V at 4K (3840X2160) resolution? This article takes a look at that, as well as how it scales over multiple NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 GPUs, along with some screen shots that look at image quality at Ultra HD resolution. It's safe to say one strong, high-end GPU will get the job done, but two in SLI or CrossFire are better of course, if you want to max out all IQ settings.
Puh-leeze (Score:1)
Wake me up when they do a review on 16k
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640k res. That should be enough for anyone.
Re:Puh-leeze (Score:5, Funny)
I keep trying to play this new PC game, and it just throws an error that says, "Terminate all TSRs and try again".
WTF, this PC gaming shit is stupid.
Re:Puh-leeze (Score:5, Funny)
Running out of conventional memory? Yeah, I know your pain. Well, I'll tell you a secret. There's this fancy thing called EMM386.. just add it to your CONFIG.SYS after the LOAD=HIMEM.SYS and don't forget to specify DOS=HIGH. It's really that easy and it should get you an easy extra 30 maybe even 45 kB more free RAM.
Cheers.
P.S. MSCDEX is for wimps.
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The trick is DUAL. You can do dual monitors in linux, been there, done that. You can do 4k in linux, I'm doing that right now. But dual 4k means you have a video card with two display port interfaces, those are not easy to come by. Doing 4k on HDMI is certainly possible, but under any OS you will be limited to 30Hz refresh, which means mouse lag. Windows handles it poorly, you will see noticeable lag. OS X and Linux are pretty good about it, but still..it's annoying.
Once we get video cards with the newest H
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The trick is DUAL. You can do dual monitors in linux, been there, done that. You can do 4k in linux, I'm doing that right now. But dual 4k means you have a video card with two display port interfaces,
Can't you just use two display cards in a non-SLI configuration?
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Crap: that's a GTX 970, sorry. The middle one, with the memory performance problem and the three DisplayPort outputs.
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30Hz and be very playable for pretty much any game
I could tell when my FPS dropped below ~75 when I used to play CounterStrike on my 85hz CRT. I got to try a friend's 120hz CRT and it was noticeably smoother than my 85hz when I needed to quickly turn around or I was doing close combat knife fights and lots of pixel movement was going on.
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I was referring to Windows 7 of course, until Microsoft chooses to release something that can fairly be described as an upgrade.
I found 30Hz to be annoying just sitting in a GUI, I never have tried to game with 4k on any system, I doubt I will do so soon.
no hardocp? (Score:1)
That was a pretty not in-depth performance review
http://www.hardocp.com/article... [hardocp.com]
http://www.hardocp.com/article... [hardocp.com]
http://www.hardocp.com/article... [hardocp.com]
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Yup, I always ignore Hothardware submissions. I'd mod you up, but they expired yesterday :(
[H]ardOCP has much better methods and much more thorough tests, since they actually try to find the best settings each video card can use. Techreport is also pretty good.
Hothardware used to be good about 10 years ago, but they lost their insight and depth.
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Continuing your criticism...
Who the fuck does a review whose primary focus deals with 4k video, and then resizes all the screenshots to 720p?!?!? How the hell is that 720p static image going to tell me anything useful about how well (or poorly) his rig did in that setup?
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Where do you see that? The gallery and all image links go to images with a maxwidth of 960. Even viewing that raw image, which is: ... doesn't result in full res. Nor does:
http://hothardware.com/Content... [hothardware.com]
And changing it to something larger:
http://hothardware.com/Content... [hothardware.com]
http://hothardware.com/Content... [hothardware.com]
I think you're full of shit, but feel free to post a link to correct me.
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Is MojoKid shilling for HotHardware allowed by /. (Score:5, Interesting)
Hello,
If one looks at MojoKid's submissions to Slashdot, one notes they exist exclusively of links to articles at HotHardware.Com [icann.org], which according to the whois data, is registered to a Dave Altavilla of Mendon, MA.
Never to ActiveWin, Ars Technica, HardOCP, Neowin, TechReport, WinBeta or the scores of other web sites which discuss, review or "engage in coordinate PR disclosure" of technology news, but always to HotHardware, never anywhere else.
Are MojoKid and Mr. Altavilla the same person? And why is he (are they?) only posting links to Slashdot to HotHardware,a site which, coincidentally, seems to rely on links to partner.googleadservices.com, www.google-analytics.com/, cdn.taboola.com, tru.am and other advertising and privacy-invasive sites in order to monetize its page views. All these hostnames should be blocked in your hosts file before visiting any links to hothardware.com to ensure you are not being advertised to or tracked (which seem to be very similar, these days).
If MojoKid/Altavilla are going to use Slashdot to generate revenue for themselves, they should at least let Slashdot's management know and note in their submissions that they are sending Slashdotters to a site which they generate revenue from; to not do so is unethical and abusive of Slashdot.
And in case anyone wants to throw a stone at my glass house, I've submitted a grand total of one articles to Slashdot, and it mentioned a free service being offered through the auspices of the IEEE which not just my employer but dozens of our competitors were involved in. Not a single banner ad or privacy-invasive script to be had there at all.
Regards.
Aryeh Goretsky
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" The majority of stories submitted to Slashdot are from people that are associated with the publications they're sourcing"
And this is a good thing? Unethical behaviour should be tolerated because it is common? And you dare criticise him for questioning this situation? When did you give up on ethics?
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How is it not unethical? Ever hear of disclosure [nytimes.com] when someone has a financial interest in something they're pushing?
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What sites does Slashdot send people to that aren't there to make money? I don't get this witchhunt.
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What sites does Slashdot send people to that aren't there to make money? I don't get this witchhunt.
Some people have this belief that in order to be ethical, you don't shill. That there are no financial ties, that the people involved have disclosure if there are any related issues. I realize that this is a difficult subject for some people to understand, but if you want to know why, you only need to look at the mess ABC news is in.
This is an extension of the clickbait culture that exists with sites like gawker, kotaku, polygon, vox and so on.
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Not the point, but you knew that already.
I don't get the willfully obtuse act, unless you're a sockpuppet account.
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It is the point. The conflict-of-interest here is manufactured.
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What was that? Something about a lack of disclosure and ethics in game journalism?
Deepfreeze.it
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This is not Wikipedia, on Slashdot you are allowed to make submissions about yourself. This is not your website, and you do not make the rules. If you want to make a website where that is not allowed, you are free to do it.
Given that it's a fairly interesting story, who cares anyway?
Aside from that, I don't get why you would speculate on the exact person doing this, writing out his full name in a public forum. You could be right, but for all we know it could be a completely different person.
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Unless things have changed the editors used to mash together submissions. If there were a range of submissions on one topic (GTA V in 4k), then the submission text would get rewritten to include links to most of the sites that you list. If it was a more esoteric story then the submission from one person would be used raw.
Performance figures for one resolution in one game is a bit lightweight and sketchy. Combination of nobody else cared and a slow news day? Never attribute malice to the actions of slashdot
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Do you pay for a subscription to slashdot?
I'm just curious as to if you expect people to spend their own time and money providing a website you use but they don't get any avenue to make a return on their investment and time.
If you pay, great. Good for you.
If not, then shut the fuck up you worthless leach, no one gives a shit what you say. :)
I'm better you don't pay for a subscription ... Do you?
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An entire legion of your best non sequiturs.
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Single thread performance is generally what ... (Score:2)
is most important for games. Probably see better performance out of a 4790K which is still king for i7s AFAIK.
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Are there any i5 class CPUs that will work well with 2 video cards? If not, I'll just stick with one 970, I guess. I'm not interested in 4K at this point, since I just bought a really top-shelf 1920x1080 monitor, and am happy with it.
I need a new mobo and CPU though. My old i5-750 is just not up to any of the new games.
Only tools begin comments in the subject line (Score:3)
Single-thread performance is irrelevant when discussing any game written first for a modern console. The last GTA game for the PC, based on the 360 edition, wanted four cores.
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Also, GTA V has been benchmarked to run at least as well on a PC with a Core i3 CPU (only 2 cores + hyperthreading) and GTX 750 Ti (slightly worse specs than the PS4 on paper) as on the PS4, with comparable image quality.
Too bad I already spent as much money as I'm going to spend on it on the shitty 360 version. I have a 750 Ti. I do have one of those oh-so-slow AMD processors, but in terms of the value I've got for the money I spent and the number of years I've run it, it's still pretty sweet. If I were willing to spend more money... I wouldn't have a 750 Ti.
120/144Hz has spoiled me. (Score:2)
I won't even consider it until DisplayPort 1.3 is the prevalent standard on all monitors. Don't give me that g-sync/free-sync crap either. :)
I'm surprised to see (Score:2)
Trevor rules (Score:2)
Oh, article is about 4k? Sorry, I game on a PS3. Gaming on a PC is better, except that during a couple lean years I got really addicted to gaming in my La-Z-Boy with my cat in my lap, on my big-ass TV.
Personal notes about it (Score:3)
It runs on some people's laptops (not even gaming laptops) at reasonable quality settings and resolutions like 1080p. That makes it easier than most to run at high resolutions on a desktop gaming PC. It's caused by two things. Firstly it's obviously well optimized, and secondly, sometimes it looks like crap for a 2015 game. Which is because the base game is from... 2013? And for consoles. The best example of it is during the tutorial, when you get in a car that looks like things haven't moved on at all since GTA: San Andreas. Overall, the game is a mixed bag of great high poly models, average models, and terrible eyesore models.
On my PC it's the easiest game of late to run at 4K. It runs smoothly on GTX 980 SLI without sweating the GPUs. But it has some very strange framedropping happening occasionally which I can't pinpoint but would assume is the content streaming tech working (badly). In terms of system resources it might be VRAM running out and having to be repopulated, since the GTX980 is light on VRAM (only 4 gigs). The other hardware should be fine (i7 5930k at 4,2 GHz, 32 gigs of DDR4, 1TB SSD with more than a third of it empty).
The 4K experience in GTA V isn't as incredible as all the hype makes it out to be. It's nice for detail in certain scenarios (cutscenes with closeups of people, flying, offroading, looking out in the distance). Otherwise 4K works much better in open world environments with lush foliage and high details, like the latest Dragon Age, Skyrim, Tomb Raider and so on. 1080p just can't resolve the details of foliage and that makes the 4K experience so amazing. GTA on the other hand is mostly cityscapes, desert and ocean and while it's nice at 4K, it's not mindblowing, because it's old hat by 2015.
I have a couple of screenshots on my onedrive [1drv.ms] if you want to have a look. It's at 4K almost maxed settings - yes, even the Ultra settings which some people have missed. IIRC one of the advanced sliders didn't go all the way up because the VRAM-meter very helpfully prevented it. Anyway, compare the graphical fidelity to Inquisition [1drv.ms] for example, and judge for yourself.
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