Amazon Robot Contest May Accelerate Warehouse Automation 56
moon_unit2 writes Amazon is organizing an event to spur the development of more nimble-fingered product-packing robots. Participating teams will earn points by locating products sitting somewhere on a stack of shelves, retrieving them safely, and then packing them into cardboard shipping boxes. Robots that accidentally crush a cookie or drop a toy will have points deducted. The contest is already driving new research on robot vision and manipulation, and it may offer a way to judge progress made in the past few years in machine intelligence and dexterity. Robots capable of advanced manipulation could eventually take on many simple jobs that are still done by hand.
Some things you can automate, some things won't. (Score:3)
There's plenty of jobs at stake with this kind of thing... Amazon could easily cut staff if the item picking items could do everything, but even robotic pullers wear out over time. Seems like it's a difference between brute force people and those that fix robotic systems.
Next prize for: robots to fix the robots (Score:2)
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Are you sure?
Maybe you can only get it from one of their resellers, but if not, I bet you can get your nukes from AliExpress.
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you have to buy those on ebay.
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They do have yellowcake. [amazon.com]
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They will do evaluations to see which is cheaper, of course. A great many low-paid pickers, including management overhead, verses a much smaller number of high-skilled, high-paid service people and a higher outlay cost. One serviceperson could maintain a great many robots, each of which could replace two or three human pickers.
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High paid? With millions of unemployed waiting in line for this or another job?
Even if you can get the pesky feds away, and pay them less than minimum wage, lazy, entitled, human workers still tend to waste 4-8 hours/day 'sleeping' and engaging in rudimentary grooming behaviors; and their lack of work ethic means that if you try to pay them starvation wages they may just decide to go starve somewhere else, and at least work fewer hours while doing so.
The effect is most obvious in places where automation is ridiculously efficient(it's pretty tricky for even your most downtrodden hum
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General Motors has tried this a number of times at a variety of different warehouses including the National Parts Distribution Centers in Canada at Woodstock, Edmonton and in the US at the facilities in Ohio and Colorado. Even at the wage that most of the people make between $21-29/hr they're more efficient, have fewer errors, and process the orders more quickly than any automation system did. And they've been running tests and trials of it since the 1980's, and every time a human beats the machine. In t
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Which would be why Amazon is improving the technology. Human workers aren't going to get an better - but robots can be improved. If they aren't good enough right now, invest some money in engineering until they are.
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That was exactly the same reasoning that GM invested heavily in robotics to do the same job, and after 35 years of screwing around with it they simply threw their hands up over it.
Re:Some things you can automate, some things won't (Score:5, Informative)
I've worked in an Amazon warehouse.
They already have robots drive shelves of product to the pickers, so all they do is stand there and pluck things off shelves all day.
The problems at Amazon aren't the work, it's the artificial conditions imposed by management. ALl workers are treated like thieves, the facility is incredibly cold (like 60F in summer cold, when it's 90F outside) in places, way too hot in others (100F+), there are only cement floors with terrible rubber mats at standing locations, and workers are held WAY too closely to their time punches (i.e. it's a 5 minute walk from your station to the break room, your 15 minute break is now a 5 minute break, too bad, so sad).
It's also one of those workplaces that emphasizes "culture" heavily, aka does daily pep rallies and wastes a ton of time on false morale, instead of trying to have happier workers.
Re:Some things you can automate, some things won't (Score:4, Insightful)
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We must work for the same company....
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Obligatory: I Was a Warehouse Wage Slave [motherjones.com]
Amazon contest may accelerate worker displacement (Score:2)
Yeah, there's always two ways to title a tech story, the utopian and the dystopian implications of a coming-of-age sci-fi technology. I'm beginning to think maybe only a form of democratic communism will save us from the techno barons of the future. That or the spread of molecular manufacturing, where the only resource you need is the dirt in your backyard, unless the hoi polloi have all been by the time packed into mega-prison-like kilometer-high apartment complexes.
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True; I live far away from an Amazon warehouse so I won't have to worry about the laid off workers robbing me for money / food / shelter.
they should rob CEO of Amazon or some GOV people and they be willing to go to jail / prison where the state will pick up the tab for food and shelter + a doctor that covers more then the ER.
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Because putting a rfid tag on all the more expensive stuff would be hard?
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Why rely on luck?
Not just for amazon (Score:2)
Robots capable of advanced manipulation could eventually take on many simple jobs that are still done by hand.
Just think with this advancement Walowitz would never have had to go to the ER.
Hand Job Contest (Score:2)
Handles (Score:3)
Attach a standardized handle to every item. Have the robot look for and grab the handle.
The handle should be such that when grabbed by the robot in correct orientation, it can properly support the full weight of the item (or the box/packaging containing the item) + some amount of additional torque incurred while moving.
The handle can either go out with the item or be removed by the robot for reuse. If it goes out with the item, it needs to be reusable/recyclable or represent minimal additional packaging material.
Many small items already have the standard ____()____ hole for rack display. Make it easily recognizable (contrasting border) and give robots a little finger to grab it.
Many light items in cardboard boxes have standardized cut-flap handles. Give robots a little hand to grab it.
Heavier items in cardboard boxes often have handles. Standardize, give hand.
Think of it as pallets for individual items. When shipping items you don't need to determine how best to pack, handle, move, or store them, let alone program a robot to do so. You just use a forklift and grab the pallet. All of the thinking for the other shit for each individual item is done by the people making the individual item.
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It's already this way. Amazon uses Dematic handling systems and robots.
flawed approach (Score:2)
Looking at this, I see it as possible in the future for amazon to require manufacturers and sellers to package items in standard size and shape boxes to m
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Seems clear they are focusing on the after part of "sending it to an AZ warehouse".
Are they still taking a flawed approach?
What about by using "the latest computer-vision and machine-learning algorithms" to avoid having standard size and shape boxes?
Still flawed?
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shut up jet bush (Score:1)
no minimum wage and no health insurance = hillary clinton 2016
Let Me Guess... (Score:1)
Let me guess... the prize for this contest will be some sort of Amazon Gift Card.
I work for a company whose motor division was competing to get designed into a 'robot' to shuttle around merchandise in Amazon's warehouses. It's a big commercial thing. They are developing this technology in a big way.
But contests like this let them 'outsource' their R&D to people who will do the work for free, or for the peanuts that an 'award' for a contest represents.
Sorry to be so negative about it. They should hire