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Ask Slashdot: What Can I Really Do With a Smart Watch? 232

kwelch007 writes I commonly work in a clean-room (CR.) As such, I commonly need access to my smart-phone for various reasons while inside the CR...but, I commonly keep it in my front pocket INSIDE my clean-suit. Therefore, to get my phone out of my pocket, I have to leave the room, get my phone out of my pocket, and because I have a one track mind, commonly leave it sitting on a table or something in the CR, so I then have to either have someone bring it to me, or suit back up and go get it myself...a real pain. I have been looking in to getting a 'Smart Watch' (I'm preferential to Android, but I know Apple has similar smart-watches.) I would use a smart-watch as a convenient, easy to transport and access method to access basic communications (email alerts, text, weather maps, etc.) The problem I'm finding while researching these devices is, I'm not finding many apps. Sure, they can look like a nice digital watch, but I can spend $10 for that...not the several hundred or whatever to buy a smart-watch. What are some apps I can get? (don't care about platform, don't care if they're free) I just want to know what's the best out there, and what it can do? I couldn't care less about it being a watch...we have these things called clocks all over the place. I need various sorts of data access. I don't care if it has to pair with my smart-phone using Bluetooth or whatever, and it won't have to be a 100% solution...it would be more of a convenience that is worth the several hundred dollars to me. My phone will never be more than 5 feet away, it's just inconvenient to physically access it. Further, I am also a developer...what is the best platform to develop for these wearable devices on, and why? Maybe I could make my own apps? Is it worth waiting for the next generation of smart-watches?
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  • Pebble? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18, 2014 @03:15PM (#48628389)

    Would the Pebble [getpebble.com] fit your needs?

    Gotta love the honesty on that web page, it got a smile from me.

    • Re:Pebble? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo ( 1000167 ) on Thursday December 18, 2014 @03:34PM (#48628557)
      I'll second the Pebble. The latest update gives it most of the same abilities as Android Wear devices. It's nice being able to archive or spamify emails the second that I get them. You can setup tasker for automation. I also use Pushover and Pushbullet a ton. If one of my servers goes down, a backup fails, or I get a hack attempt noticed by fail2ban, I get notified at an instant. I live in a pretty cold climate and it's nice to be able to dismiss messages without digging my phone out through multiple layers and taking my gloves off to get to the notifications bar.
      • Re:Pebble? (Score:5, Informative)

        by TroubleMagnet ( 529417 ) on Thursday December 18, 2014 @04:04PM (#48628797) Homepage
        I have a pebble as well. It has it's limitations but it have a few nice functions that make it worthwhile.

        1. See who is calling without taking out your phone, button press will tell your phone you've decided not to answer the call to it stops ringing.
        2. See the text of new messages from SMS/email/twitter and likely any other source you care to see. You can scroll up and down to read them.
        3. 5-7 days between charges. Some apps or faces will shorten this by a LOT. 99% of the time I use the two functions above, on a 4 day trip out of town now, didn't even bother to bring the charging cable.
        4. See how many voicemails, texts, email you have waiting.
        5. Control Tasker (Android only) which brings up a bunch of simple things you can do.
        6. Current weather

        I wouldn't want to try to enter text on it, only has 4 buttons, but if you want to see if it's worth leaving the clean room it's great. You could likely set up a couple stock messages and send them if you really wanted to, not sure if there is an app or if you'd have to get Tasker to do it.
        • Yes! This is exactly the sort of thread response I'm looking for! I've looked in to the Pebble watches, and I'm not sure they're quite right for me, but this is the sort of thing I want to be able to do. Essentially, diminish my need to get my phone out. Things like being able to see and read texts to see who they are from and what they say, to evaluating incoming callers...YES! I would like a little more, but this conversation's definitely along my desired lines! Not, "can I do this?" But rather, "W

    • Would the Pebble [getpebble.com] fit your needs?

      "apps compatible with iOS and Android",
        Nice.

    • Re:Pebble? (Score:4, Informative)

      by ColaMan ( 37550 ) on Thursday December 18, 2014 @04:04PM (#48628801) Journal

      There's a fair bit of 'easy' customisability in a Pebble.

      And the battery life of 'aroundabouta week' is great compared to the 'charge overnight' crowd. I like to have a watch on at night, and I can silence my phone and have calls vibrate the pebble to wake me up if needed, but I sleep pretty lightly.

      Notifications are good (with an add-on app), Phone control is easy (with an add-on app), there's a bunch of little apps for just about anything. Download the Pebble app for your phone (no need to get the hardware to install the app) and have a poke about in the app store section to see what's about.

      There are programs that allow you to make your own faces with a builder app on your phone. You can get apps for it that can pull any JSON data you want from a server, and the actual dev environment used to make 'real' apps isn't too bad to work with.

      And the original plastic pebble is pretty cheap and waterproof to 5 atm. (um, swimming and showering and stuff), so I rarely take it off.

    • by hondo77 ( 324058 )
      Ah, the Pebble. Relive the graphics of the original Game Boy...on your wrist!
    • Sadly, you can all but forget about Pebble in the EU, because it carries an incredible 50% price premium over the US price.

      That's way, way too much, and brings the watch from "hey, this would be neat to have" to "jesus, I can buy a full-featured phone with an IPS and Gorilla Glass 3 for that amount of money".

  • I commonly (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18, 2014 @03:17PM (#48628409)

    I commonly need common communications commonly between my common friends commonly found on my common smart phone.

  • commonly leave it sitting on a table or something in the CR, so I then have to either have someone bring it to me

    Use it so that if you get too far from your phone, it makes your phone ring so you'll remember to take it with you. And as a way to find your phone when you can't find it.

    • As much as people may continue to criticize my question, I think this is a valid function of a smart-watch. Thank you for pointing it out!

      • Devices should complement each other. Besides, have you ever wished you had your phone so you could call your phone because you can't find your phone? :-)
  • by Mantle ( 104724 ) on Thursday December 18, 2014 @03:19PM (#48628425)
    need access to my smart-phone for various reasons
    [...]
    various sorts of data access

    Part of writing a good ticket is being specific about your use case and not presupposing the solution. From what you've written, the problem is not technical and has nothing to do with a smart watch. The problem is you are forgetful.

    If you can be specific about what you are actually doing with your phone, we can give you solutions that may or may not involve a smart watch.

    • need access to my smart-phone for various reasons

      [...]

      various sorts of data access

      Part of writing a good ticket is being specific about your use case and not presupposing the solution. From what you've written, the problem is not technical and has nothing to do with a smart watch. The problem is you are forgetful.

      If you can be specific about what you are actually doing with your phone, we can give you solutions that may or may not involve a smart watch.

      This is it exactly. The solutions to the problem of not having phone-like features attached to your wrist (where you can't forget them) are either a: purchase a several hundred dollar bit of tech that you clearly dont know suits your needs, or b: tie your phone to your fucking wrist.

  • by cjonslashdot ( 904508 ) on Thursday December 18, 2014 @03:28PM (#48628501)
    Everything you buy today - especially things with software - will cause you grief - error codes, constant software updates, hacked, frozen and race conditions, and general frustration - so you have to ask yourself, is it worth it?
  • Why do you need weather maps in a clean room?

    • Maybe because he intends to leave it at some point, and I dunno, drive home? Like, through the weather? And if the weather is bad, it might impact the length of said drive, and further determine when he might want to leave said clean room? Or whatever?
      • That's ridiculous. As weather prediction is notoriously bad, he would be far better off checking that information in his car, right before he leaves.

        • You've never watched a snow storm come in on radar, have you?
          • Living in a climate governed by the Mediterranean, I've never had to.

            • Then of course you wouldn't need weather to decide when to leave work (or IF it is worthwhile to leave work at all, I've had a couple of times when it simply wasn't worthwhile to leave work before midnight).

  • Why I got a Pebble (Score:5, Informative)

    by Enry ( 630 ) <enry@@@wayga...net> on Thursday December 18, 2014 @03:32PM (#48628537) Journal

    I don't like my phone making noises and I generally wore headphones. Which left me with leaving the phone in my pocket and either putting it on vibrate and have phantom buzzes or put it on completely silent and miss texts/appointments. Got a pebble maybe 9 months ago and it's been great. As long as I'm in bluetooth range I'll get notified for SMS/Google Chat message, some Facebook updates, calendar events, and incoming phone calls. All of that is customizable and while a few apps allow you to send canned responses I don't use that currently - I just want to know something happened.

    Best part is when you're in a meeting and your phone buzzes, you can just check your wrist to see what it was which is far more discrete than pulling out your phone, unlocking it, and then finding the right app.

    • by DogDude ( 805747 )
      Best part is when you're in a meeting and your phone buzzes, you can just check your wrist to see what it was which is far more discrete than pulling out your phone, unlocking it, and then finding the right app.

      Or you can just get a Windows Phone which shows all of the message indicators on the lock screen.
      • Or you can install a custom lock screen on Android and get the same thing.
        Or use an iPhone, which I think shows notifications on the lock screen as well?

        This does not prevent the "pulling out your phone" part - especially if it doesn't automatically turn its screen on, requiring further steps - and then the unmentioned "putting your phone back" part.
        Unless that phone is already on the desk in front of you, of course.

      • by Enry ( 630 )

        My android (now) does that as well, but I can still leave the phone in my pocket.

    • Finding the right app? Does your phone not offer a main screen summary of what's going on?

      • I'm still using an old iPhone 3GS with iOS6 and it does that too, so I'm not sure what smartphone Enry is talking about. It must be from the paleolithic era.

    • I just let the phone buzz and ignore it. What's the point of pulling it out to check? The only time it matters is if you're getting bad news, and bad news can wait. And in a meeting, I would never check it, and I am annoyed at people who do check. If I am talking to someone and they stop and look at the phone, it tells me that I am unimportant and they'd rather talk to literally anyone else in the the world including the unknown person who made the phone buzz.

      Kids need to learn some basic social skills.

      • by Enry ( 630 )

        At the time I was in a support role for the client. That buzz could be my wife calling (which I could ignore), could be server a up and died and needed my attention.

  • The entire point of having a battery in a watch is so that you don't have to worry about winding it every day,,, it's good for 3 years and then you replace the battery when it goes.

    If I'm going to replace my watch, something that I've been using for years, and have only had to replace the battery twice since I got it, with something newer, then that newer thing should not create additional inconveniences that far outweigh anything it can do that a watch might not, particularly when there is nothing that it will do which a smart phone does not already do anyways.

    • by ColaMan ( 37550 ) on Thursday December 18, 2014 @03:53PM (#48628719) Journal

      I can deal with my Pebble watch and it's 7-8 day time between recharges. When it gets down to 20% (day 7) I think, "Hmmm, better charge that up". When it gets down to 10% (day 8) I think, "OK, charge that up tonight".

      Then I wake up in the morning with a dead watch and charge it fully in the time that I have a shower and breakfast. Or I plug it's USB cable in at work for 45 minutes when I'm at my desk.

      Point is , I can deal with weekly charges.

    • The entire point of having a battery in a watch is so that you don't have to worry about winding it every day,,, it's good for 3 years and then you replace the battery when it goes.

      If I'm going to replace my watch, something that I've been using for years, and have only had to replace the battery twice since I got it, with something newer, then that newer thing should not create additional inconveniences that far outweigh anything it can do that a watch might not, particularly when there is nothing that it will do which a smart phone does not already do anyways.

      There are a fair number of people out there who happily traded the 2-week battery life of their perfectly functional cell phones for dead-in-a-day smartphones. As it turns out, the inconvenience of having to constantly recharge a smartphone was worth putting up with in exchange for being able to do all the things you can do with a smartphone. Clearly, not everyone shared this sentiment, as you can still see any number of people using non-smartphones today--but significant numbers of people chose functionali

      • by mark-t ( 151149 )
        The smart phone not only offers functionality not found in a regular cell phone, but it also offered capabilities not found anywhere else, while also still being in a pocket-sized form factor. The smart watch does nothing a smart phone cannot already do and with its battery life, unless you consider "it stays on your wrist" to be a significant advantage, and has a rather significant disadvantage over a modern digital watch when it comes to power consumption.
  • secret codes for your decoder ring
  • Find a holder/holster which will strap around your upper or lower arm, outside of your clean suit. The sort that trendy people use while working out.

    This will eliminate the need for extra, expensive tech, while also keeping it handy.
  • This is the #1 case for something like a Pebble right now.
    - Put all your notifications on your wrist. Email, caller id, SMS.
    - Reject calls from your watch!
    - Never have to unlock your phone again - it's tied to the watch.
    - Canned responses from your watch.
    - SILENCE your phone. You can't miss the buzz on your wrist, so now you won't be that ass whose phone is whistling every 10 seconds.
    - Likewise, you cannot miss the buzz on your wrist for alarms, no matter how noisy it is.
    - Navigation and music control on yo

  • Are any of your reasons for needing your phone related to your job? Can you not go through a workday without playing with your phone? If you need outside communications from the clean room then your employer should provide them.

    • Whatever the environment, there are jobs that require someone just to be there waiting for something unusual to happen. Even in the nuclear missile bunkers, I bet they spend about 95% of their time sitting around waiting for an alarm they hope never comes. You can only clean so much before it's time to lean. So what if OP works in a clean room? I bet there are plenty of "I'm paid to sit here" jobs in there, too.

  • you still have to pay the sales tax.

  • OP works in a clean room where he can't take his phone out from under his body condom ... but apparently he doesn't need to wear gloves?

  • How about the extra-ordinary solution of wearing your phone in a pocket that IS accessible within the clean room? Or in one of those exercise arm-band thingies to hold it on your arm outside the gown? There are also bracelets that you can wear that warn you if you get too far from your phone which are inexpensive, so you won't forget your phone in the clean room

    The real question becomes what is allowable for you to wear in your clean room. I'm a little surprised that a watch would be OK, or that bringing

  • Just lay it on the bench, dress, take it with you inside and keep an eye on it. Cheap and handy.

  • Smart watches should not simply be small smartphones on your wrist. They should take advantage of their place on your wrist. To my mind that means any reasonable smart watch should do the following:

    Sports applications - specifically it should measure the movement of your arm at the very least, if not the full exercise monitoring/recording of the fitbit and the similar items.

    Medical application - specifically at least measure your pulse, if not full blood sugar, etc.

    In addition it should have a good

    • Basis Peak, if they ever get the notification software, is a good start, but it needs voice recognition.

      Of course, I suppose, if you had a Pebble, you could just program it to bring up voice rec on your smart phone and use your bluetooth headset.

  • By default I get texts and emails on my watch, can set reminders and alarms and text by voice, and of course answer and dismiss calls which is surprising useful with a BT ear piece. But with some good apps like Coffee I can easily send texts, with a custom face I can see my steps and weather outside at a glance (important where I live in the winter). I hardly take out my phone a fraction as much as I used to except to type long texts or emails or occasional web browsing.

  • From the "I commonly work in a clean-room (CR.)" I knew we were onto a winner here.

    What you actually want to do is not put your phone on the 'inside' of your "CR" gear.

    If that's not an option, then I suspect neither is farting around with a wrist-computer.

    Being serious. I'm a Pebble user and the main service it provides is putting your phone notifications on your wrist - it lets you break the pavlovian response of looking at your phone everytime it goes 'buzz'
    However, it pretty much assumes that when
  • At no point did you indicate what you might want to do with a smart watch. We might be able to make some guesses if you told us what kinds of things you commonly do on your smart phone. Without that information, any responses here will be less useful than a few minutes of googling.

    I absolutely love my Pebble. Its primary purpose is in helping me to determine whether I should remove my phone from my pocket or not. The Pebble will show me who's calling me, or will display a text message, or the first few line

  • by johnlcallaway ( 165670 ) on Thursday December 18, 2014 @05:15PM (#48629271)

    Ignore the moronic and juvenile posts from above that were more about making the poster feel superior than answering your question. But this is ./, I wasn't surprised.

    I've had my Samsung Gear 2 since July, and find the following functions the most useful, in no specific order. Most smart watches have similar functions, the camera probably being the one that is the missing from many of them.
    1. Telling time (duh)
    2. Timer. Something I use a lot more than I thought I would because it's easier to use and I don't have to take my phone out of my pocket.
    3. Camera. Picture resolution isn't that great, but it's good enough to document things and share on Facebook (which I don't post from the watch, I post from my phone. Might be a way to do it from the watch, just not that much of a facebook fan that I care.) Don't expect to print 8x10 glossy pictures though. After having one, I wouldn't get another smart watch without one, it's so quick and easy to use and always easily available.
    4. Get text messages. You can send them, but it's either by voice which can be annoying to others, or some of the keyboards. Keeping it to short 'yes/no' type 1replies are possible, carrying on a conversation about where to go for dinner and why .. probably not.
    5. Send and take phone calls. As long as someone is in your contacts, the voice recognition works pretty well. The comments I've had from my wife is the quality of the audio on her end is pretty good. Because the speaker and microphone is on your wrist, it can be difficult to hear or hold it comfortably to talk. I had a conversation from about 50 feet away from my phone when I left it inside my car at Home Depot and was in the contractor bay.
    7. Get other notifications. This can drive you nuts, unless you are one of those people that insists on being plugged in constantly. I turned off the email/news notifications, just got too many. Other people that I know that have one use it for those things.
    8. Calculator. Tiny buttons, good for quick calculations.
    10. Store customer cards. I have loaded the bar codes for most of my loyalty cards, makes it easier in some stores with remote readers, useless in others. Since it doesn't care what the bar code is, might be useful in a clean room if you have to scan bar codes.
    11. 'Look behind'. This is an app that lets you see what your phone camera sees. Great for looking under sinks and behind furniture. Probably not very useful in a clean room.
    12. 'Find my phone'. Easier than finding another phone to call your phone when it's lost.
    13. I like the square look more than the round look, makes more sense for a computer screen.

    Caveats:
    1. It's not a platform to spend long amounts of time reading. The screen is small, and even with support, my arm gets tired after using it too much to read the news and other things.
    2. I have to charge it up every couple of days. Because it uses a proprietary cradle, you can't just plug it in to a USB cable to charge it. But .. it's also water and dust resistant, that's the price you pay for those features. I set the display brightness low, which extends the timing.
    3. Fitness programs (i.e. pedometers) chew up the battery life. If you want a fitness watch, get one. If you aren't interested in tracking those types of things, this watch is fine.
    4. Don't even start to believe you are going to type emails on this. The face is just too small for anything other than very small text messages.
    5. While the watch band is replaceable, finding one that fits can be problematic. I haven't spent a lot of time, but because of the way the watch is designed, I think one really needs to go to a store to find one rather than online. I've tried a couple around the house from old watches, and the ones that fit looked like crap. But .. it doesn't require any tools to remove, although the same may or not be true for the one you replace it with.
    6. It's a PIA at night driving or really doing anythin

    • I realize this poster doesn't often read replies, but THANK YOU! THIS WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR! There have been hundreds of replies to this question...a handful useful, but this one takes the cake! I think that johnlcallaway has convinced me to be an iteration 1 adopter of a smart-watch. They don't do everything I want, but they do a lot of it.

      P.S. - don't care about Trolls...they can bitch and moan about Apple vs PC or whatever to their heart's content for all I care..I only wanted a legitimat

    • by _merlin ( 160982 )

      What happened to 6 and 9?

  • I have an Asus ZenWatch. Below should be able to be done on any Android Wear device. In no particular order I use it for the following:

    Check New Email
    Check SMS
    Check Caller ID
    Check Weather
    Check Calendar and Agenda
    Check Google Now Cards (includes traffic card for my route home)
    Check Other phone notifications
    Dictate Notes
    Check steps walked
    Check Heart rate
    Set Reminders
    and Check the Time

    Some Android Watches have a speaker in addition to the microphone so you answer and talk through your watch for phone calls. My

  • by smellsofbikes ( 890263 ) on Thursday December 18, 2014 @06:04PM (#48629651) Journal

    My wife has one because she can't fit any modern cellphone in her pockets, and her Veer finally died, so the phone lives in her handbag and she uses her watch. She can answer calls, talk, and hang up without (I believe) even having to touch it, and can send texts ("galaxy, send text. next patient has piece of steel stuck in eyeball, will need more lidocane.") which she then previews visually and tells it verbally to send, again without having to touch it. She's pretty thrilled with it. And it tells time. I'm not sure what else I'd want/need in a watch.
    (I haven't gotten one because I destroy everything I touch so it'd be a waste. But I'm quite envious.)

  • I'll probably get an Apple Watch and it will be obsolete within a year. This is the watch I hope somebody will make:

    Applications:
    Time ( analog and digital)
    Weather (current and 5 day)
    Music (streaming and offline/stored to bluetooth headset)
    Games
    Fitness
    Universal Remote (car, thermostat, door locks, tv, game controller, camera, etc)
    Payments/Passbook (nfc, QR-Code wallet)
    Voice Messaging/Notes
    Voice Search (e.g. Siri)
    To Do List
    Hands Free Call
    Facetime/Hangouts
    Calculator
    Calendar/Schedule
    Translate
  • ... that doesn't require a mobile phone like those Casio Data Bank calculator watches.

  • by Dan Edwards ( 3955283 ) on Thursday December 18, 2014 @09:36PM (#48630791)
    I also work in a clean room. I also keep my phone in my pocket and have to leave to access. I have also had two different smart watches. First, should you get a smart watch... YES. It is a complete game changer to be able to feel important notifications on your wrist. If you tweek your notifications just right, you can know if you feel a notification on your wrist it is important. Also I have found the timer functions to be very useful to come back to things while I multitask. I first had a Pebble and now a Moto 360. Pluses and minuses to both units. The biggest plus on the Pebble is the battery life and always on screen. The biggest plus on the Moto is the voice texting which works most of the time even in a noisy environment. Biggest minus for the Pebble is the looks (which is really not much of a minus). The biggest minuses for the Moto 360 is the buggy software and short battery life, but it does last 15 hours for me. Which would I recommend... The Pebble. It is not as sexy, but button presses always win over voice in a noisy environment. The software is much more polished and complete on the Pebble for what you want it to do. The Moto 360 is still feeling out the best way for the software to work on a smart watch. No question in my mind after using both the Pebble is the better design for what it is trying to do. I think the Moto 360 will be a great choice once the software design is improved. The Pebble company is better focused on what a smart watch should be.
  • epecially if the name is prefixed with "i"

  • I commonly work in a clean room too.

    I take my phone out of my pocket, wipe it down, and throw it in my tool box before gowning up.

  • All I wanted to know was, "am I am somehow missing some killer app that makes a Smart-Watch worth-while?"

    A handful of you have actually considered my questions and the detailed description I offered of my scenario, prior to commenting, and I appreciate your comments! The rest of you are freaking children more interested in stirring up some trivial argument and wasting time. No wonder it takes so long for the true users and developers - I happen to be both - to get together and figure out what we really wa

Keep up the good work! But please don't ask me to help.

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