Samsung Debuts Thin Galaxy Tab S With Super AMOLED 2560X1600 Display 176
MojoKid (1002251) writes Samsung unveiled its latest flagship tablet, the Galaxy Tab S, at an event in New York City tonight, and the new device is thin, lightweight, and sports a killer Super AMOLED display. Samsung boasts that the Galaxy Tab S's 2560x1600 display has 73% better color reproduction than conventional LCD displays and can match colors up to 94% of "nature's true palette" with deeper blacks and a 100,000:1 contrast ratio. The 10.5-inch device weighs just 467g and measures a mere 6.6mm in thickness (and there's an 8.4-inch version, too). Under the hood, the Galaxy Tab S features Android KitKat 4.4, 3GB of RAM, 16GB or 32GB of storage with a microSD slot that supports up to 128GB. The front camera is 2.1MP and the rear 8MP camera has an LED flash. No word on the exact processor on board just yet, other than it's a quad-core SoC. It's likely a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 though an Exynos variant or perhaps even Tegra 4 wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility.
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Behold, the latest wonder [newegg.com] from Asus. UltraHD in a 28" screen for $650 at NewEgg. Limit 2 per customer. (No, they're not paying me to post this. I wish they were.)
Yeah it's a TN panel, but the reviews show it can manage a standard color gamut better than pretty much any TN panel before it, while still benefiting from the TN design in its response time. It claims 1 ms grey to grey transition. Off angle viewing is better than many TN panels as well. And with the DisplayPort connection, it's capable of 6
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And with the DisplayPort connection, it's capable of 60Hz vertical refresh at full resolution, something HDMI can't do until the new HDMI spec is finalized.
It's already finalized: HDMI 2.0 [hdmi.org]
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I would have to disagree that things like color and contrast ratio don't matter on portable displays. Why does one system matter more than the other? I see plenty of color critical applications for tablets and phone just as I do for desktops. Also I greatly prefer that the technology irons out it's bugs on a small cheap disposable device before I drop $2000 on a desktop monitor that will last me 8 years like my current one.
Start small, get it perfected, increase the size. A perfectly valid development metho
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You have a *lot* more disposable income that me. Childless?
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Sure! Who needs kids when there's 7 billion of us worthless fucks already here!
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You have a *lot* more disposable income that me. Childless?
The term "childless" is offensive and discriminatory.
The proper term is "child-free".
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Fuck any company that tries to limit what I can do with my possessions.
Until they prove that this new tablet is easily rootable, so that you can do what you want on it, no self-respecting nerd should buy this.
(And before any smartass pipes up with "customers are leasing it, not buying it" yeah yeah, you are very clever, but you and I both know that's horseshit.)
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It may have been part of their strategy, but it seems with their "knox" development that they'd rather try to market their devices as totally secure, even if that means secure against users themselves.
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What are you talking about? They specifically allow boot loader replacement. Custom ROMs are part of Samsung's strategy.
Samsung has been locking bootloaders lately. One of the more annoying tactics is to release a new device with an open bootloader, then lock it for subsequent production runs / the first minor revision under the same SKU. This means if you buy your device months after it's out, you've got a chance of getting a locked bootloader. Same goes for if you have to get your device repaired or replaced under warranty. Happened to my friend's S5. Now he's done with Samsung, and I don't blame him. My guess is tha
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Units! (Score:5, Funny)
"The 10.5-inch device weighs just 467g and measures a mere 6.6mm in thickness" ...
Re:Units! (Score:5, Funny)
The 0.267m device weighs just 0.467kg and measures a mere 0.0066m in thickness.
Happy now?
Re:Units! (Score:5, Funny)
I prefer my units rounded.
The 0m device weighs just 0kg and measures a mere 0m in thickness.
Re:Units! (Score:5, Funny)
See? Imperial is no different from metric.
The 0 mile device weighs just 0 hundredweight and measures a mere 0 miles in thickness.
Re:Units! (Score:5, Funny)
sorry, Apple has the patent on that.
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The 2.7 x 10^-1 m device weighs just 4.7 x 10^-1 kg and measures a mere 6.6 x 10^-3 m in thickness.
Why doesn't slashdot allow the <sup> tag?!
Re:Units! (Score:4, Funny)
Why doesn't slashdot allow the <sup> tag?!
What's <sup>?
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No. Why did you use kilograms when grams is obviously the base SI unit of measure?
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Intuitively, the unit of mass should be a tonne?, 10^6 grams. That is the mass of one cube meter of water.
Re:Units! (Score:5, Interesting)
I mean, um, METRIC IS AWESOME.
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They can say whatever the fuck they want, but the gram is the base unit of mass.
A kilogram isn't a unit, it's a measure equal to exactly 1000 mass units (grams).
The SI is full of arbitrary, ambiguous, retarded shit like this. I have no idea why people view it as some sort of authority on anything.
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because kilograms is the SI base unit.
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The 0.267m device weighs just 0.467kg and measures a mere 0.0066m in thickness.
Happy now?
Fuck no, I'm not happy. .267 meters, 467 grams, and .0066 meters.
Mass should be measured in grams by default. If you want kilograms to be the default because of your arbitrary preference, then shift everything by 1000.
There's no reason other than "durr, I'm familiar with a kilogram" to have the default measure of mass be 1000 times the base unit.
Re:Units! (Score:5, Funny)
Actually the unit of weight is newtons
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Actually the unit of weight is newtons
A Newton is a measure of force, not weight.
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Well, it's a good thing that weight isn't the force experienced by mass via gravity then. Otherwise you'd look really stupid.
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Actually the unit of weight is newtons
What, do they have to dig him up every few years and update the current value, or did they weigh him at death or at some other point? Basing a system of measure on a physical object is problematic.
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Yeah, they did away with the old tons.
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well, screens are even in metric countries still mostly measured in inch. a 10.5 inch screen is clearer than a 27cm screen.
It's indeed strange and stupid, but unless there is a sudden movement to get rid of this convention, it's rather convenient to keep it that way. Everybody knows the sizes in inch of the screens they have, so if a new screen then also measures it in inch, it's easy to compare it to what you currently have.
If i read somewhere the screen diagonal measured in cm, it's most of the time a tin
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I've travelled to quite a few European countries (I'm European), and most places, electronics-stores give screen-sizes in centimeters, not inches. Is more prevalent in east-european countries.
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here in west europe, i also see it sometimes, but most of the times it's still inches. And when i see it in cm, it's just strange :p
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Not here: http://www.fust.ch/de/r/tv-fot... [www.fust.ch] (probably the most popular electronics store in Switzerland).
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Same in France with inches somewhat gaining hold in televisions (due to internet discussions and websites)
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i'm from belgium, and here inches are still dominating. it's indeed odd to see that when i go to a german site, that everything is in centimeters (though it would be nice to finally make the switch)
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Mediamarkt Belgium indexes their TVs in cm, but then provides details in inches :)
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a 10.5 inch screen is clearer than a 27cm screen.
It's really not though, at least to me. When you say 27cm I immediately have a firm idea of how big it is, but 10.5" is a bit vague for someone living in a (mostly) metric country. TV sizes are much easier to visualize in centimetres as well.
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Romania has started Metrification about 150 years ago... but I'm still referring to mountain bike wheels as "of 26 by 1.9" (inches that is).
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New Zealand converted to metric in 1969. Many people still alive remember the Imperial units used before then (and there are lots of UK immigrants and lots of UK and US television and movies), so references to older units are still understood by most people in everyday conversatio
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i guess that's a compliment for my good english, but i'm european :p. :p, or maybe i'm getting old and will have to face that slowly screens will be measured in cm and not inch.
and i know very well how much 27cm is, but i find it hard to translate to screen diagonal. I however know perfectly how big my currently 10" tablets screen is, and i've never looked at it as a 25cm tablet
Knowing how much 27cm is, for me at least, doesn't give a good indication of what you'll exactly have. you have to compare it to si
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Canadians and Mexicans both seem to understand inches better.
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*Older* Canadians understand inches...my 4 kids all have no clue about them, they prefer centimetres.
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True. It was a missed opportunity, and you're probably right about the reason.
Personally I think it'd be most useful to know the height of the visible area (in cm), and the aspect ratio.
well you can assume it's 16:9, since ALL tvs are this. I think the right thing is to just give the horizontal width. it's a wide screen tv, so how wide is it?
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"The 10.5-inch device weighs just 467g and measures a mere 6.6mm in thickness" ...
Not really that amusing. Screen sizes in even the most solidly [amazon.co.jp] metric [amazon.it] countries [amazon.co.uk] are often measured in inches.
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Ha, you included UK in solidly metric. The UK has basically failed to switch. Only fuel is measured in metric units. Well ok, milk is sold in 568ml containers that do not say "pint" anywhere, but everyone says pint.
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in Italy TVs have been sold measured in inches since the very beginning, and Italy is as metric as they come. Fun random fact, they are actually said to be xx 'thumbs' wide (pollici)
Differences to TabPro? (Score:3, Informative)
These tablets sure look nice. The main downsides seem to be (i) price and (ii) Samsung's customized TouchWiz UI (so you gotta wait for custom ROMs).
But the question in my mind is the following: how do these differ from the TabPro tablets? They look quite similar to me... Thoughts?
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What about tetrachromate women ? (Score:4, Interesting)
If it can match colors up to 94% of "nature's true palette" , maybe it could be used to display a test for tetrachromate people ? [wikipedia.org]
I always wanted to make such a test, but I was quite difficult with real pigments.
I hope some application will try to make such a test, it would be amazing !
Don't believe the hype. (Score:4, Funny)
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Consider that cameras and monitors don't even capture the full range in terms of dark to light that the NORMAL human eye can see. Extra color information, like resolution, is one of those things that you need to actually see and get used to before you become willing to shell out extra money for it. I have an A
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Yeah, that's been a huge problem. The iPhone 4s has a 99% sRGB display, while the iPhone 5/5s has a 100% sRGB display. And my Dell monitor has a 107% NTSC display.
Color spectra is fun! But given that the "visible spec
94% of "nature's true palette"? (Score:2)
match colors up to 94% of "nature's true palette"
I assume they actually mean 94% of the colours humans can see - unless this thing can spit out X-rays.
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I assume they actually mean 94% of the colours humans can see - unless this thing can spit out X-rays.
That is part of their new user/ad tracking software.
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match colors up to 94% of "nature's true palette"
I assume they actually mean 94% of the colours humans can see - unless this thing can spit out X-rays.
Hee.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/Radioactive_Man.jpg
Super AMOLED a welcome upgrade (Score:2)
I own the Tab 2 and it's a great device - but the poor black contrast lets it down, particularly when watching video. On my Galaxy S4 mobile the blacks (eg, dark scenes or fade to black in movie) are pure black, better than iPhone and others .. whereas on the Tab2 they're distinctly grey due to the LCD backlight. Super AMOLED is superb.
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Agreed, as long as you're inside. My S4 is a bear to use outside because you just can't see the display worth a damn in bright sunlight.
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I own a Tab 1, 2 and Note (all 10" versions) and I must say that the Tab 2 is absolute rubbish compared to the other 2. It is amazingly non responsive (slow).
The Note is fantastic and the Tab 1 is pretty good - but what the hell did they do to the Tab 2? That thing was a step backwards from the Tab 1, I hate it.
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I'm using a custom rom/kernel in my tab2 that overclock the video and cpu chips, and its not too bad. I think my next tab will be an 8" version.
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What ROM is that? I'd be interested in improving the performance of my Tab 2.
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I've used this kernel with slimrom.net.
http://forum.xda-developers.co... [xda-developers.com]
Currently using this ROM which comes with the previously mentioned kernel, either way works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.co... [xda-developers.com]
If you get trickster from the playstore you can change all kinds of settings with the custom kernel, but the stock settings work great.
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Removable battery? (Score:5, Interesting)
Does this have a removable battery?
I've stopped buying consumer electronics that take the markedly ANTI-consumer and needless action of making non-removable batteries. I realize this eliminates most tablets* but I really have little use for a tablet (my job has provided several for me to use but I really couldn't care less about them, having tried them).
* - And all Apple hardware, but I'm ok with that too.
Re:Removable battery? (Score:4, Interesting)
That was true about 10 years ago, but I don't think it's true anymore.
I empathize with those whose usage patterns fall outside of these cases, and who could really use a second battery to swap in. But in general I think the extra capacity and smaller size that comes from molding the battery to fit in limited space and not having to encase the battery in a protective plastic housing are a worthwhile tradeoff. Bear in mind that when user-replaceable batteries were common, they were substantially overpriced and probably represented the biggest rip-off in the tech market after $100 for an extra 16 GB of flash memory.
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In theory what you say is true, but it doesn't take into account how hard some devices push batteries these days. High current charging doesn't do them much good, and neither does heat which is a shame because due to decides being so thin and fanless they tend to dissipate a lot of it into the chassis (and thus the battery). Some laptops have even started providing chargers that can't actually power the damn things, relying on the battery to provide extra current when needed. If you push the machine hard a
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markedly ANTI-consumer and needless action of making non-removable batteries.
You're joking right? Consumers are pushing a desire for thinner lighter devices capable of longer and longer run-times with higher loads. Something has to give when you are designing around these requirements. A lot of modern devices are thin because their batteries lack any kind of protection. Using flat lithium cells gives the designer far more flexibility to design a product rather than having a full battery pack with protective case and protection circuit. The average consumer is likely to damage the ty
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You're joking right? Consumers are pushing a desire for thinner lighter devices capable of longer and longer run-times with higher loads.
Believe it or not, consumers also like to not have to replace their device in 2 years because the battery only holds half the capacity it used to. Just because it's not on the box or part of the advertisement's spiel doesn't mean it's not something consumers care about. There are plenty of consumers who can see into the future beyond the length of their nose.
Something has to give when you are designing around these requirements. A lot of modern devices are thin because their batteries lack any kind of protection. Using flat lithium cells gives the designer far more flexibility to design a product rather than having a full battery pack with protective case and protection circuit.
You seem to be under the misconception that these rule each other out. Do you do much electronics repair? How many devices have you owned? Opened? Repl
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You're absolutely right, except where you're completely wrong.
Consumers don't like to replace their device in 2 years because of battery? Not a problem. I don't think I've ever met anyone who swapped because of a battery. They swap because their contract is up, because the new shiny thing came out, because all their friends have one, not because of a battery (by the way my Samsung Galaxy S is still working fine on it's original battery). Manufacturers do NOT need to make a device wear out, the vast majority
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your iMac CMOS battery will die eventually too, how easy is it to replace?
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after only a few years of operation, there is a noticeable dimness to the screen, so that it is unusable in daylight.
I've read that AMOLED displays degrade quickly in their brightness.
Great for you if you are a company wanting to sell me a new phone every two years. Sucks for the consumer who might want to keep their phone 5 or even 8 years like I kept my last pre-smartphone.
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Sucks for the consumer who might want to keep their phone 5 or even 8 years like I kept my last pre-smartphone.
Just another example of being unable to please everyone. The vast majority of consumers these days don't use their phones for anywhere near that long. It's true AMOLEDs do tend to die over time but they will far outlive the average service life of the phone (far less than 5 years).
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It doesn't even mean a single goddam objective thing.
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Unfortunately, it seems your brain is to puny to understand math and the objective measures that are used to measure colour reproduction.
You must be from one of those countries with third world education systems.
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But without anything like iTunes behind it.
Not having iTunes sounds like a feature...they should charge a premium.
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You jest, but I would love to have something available in the open source world that can:
- Hold all of my media
- Curate it (rankings, playlists, etc.)
- Make it available on my various mobile devices and computers
- Make it available on my TV
- Let me play it over remote, synchronized speakers.
- Change ratings from my mobile devices
Right now I can't do all of those things, and so I end up stuck in iTunes. I run Subsonic, which does a lot of that, but does not allow per-file rankings and does not play over remo
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Were only the interface not a steaming pile of laggy shit, I would agree with you. But, oh, the torture of actually trying to curate a collection of anything but consumer audio in iTunes (and even just audio in iTunes) has made me long for the days of frustrating Media Monkey add-ons. I use iTunes because I have iDevices, but it sucks so bad I've done essentially nothing with mu library organization since I switched 5 years ago. And don't even get me started on video - I can't even use video on my portable
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I agree that the interface is lacking, and I'd even be willing to run multiple (compatible) solutions. I just can't find anything with the same capabilities. I really, really would like to switch. I was hoping that "MagicPlay" would help fill the gap, but I never heard another word after the initial flurry of announcements a year ago.
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I agree. Fancy features like the OP mentioned are worthless if the app itself sucks at doing its primary function. Laggy, bloated, ad-laden, crippled, non extensible, garbage. When it is horrible at managing music, I cant see the point of giving a damn about remote ratings.
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Sounds like the services google provides, except for this:
Let me play it over remote, synchronized speakers.
Which is called "bluetooth".
Android has the benefit of not needing to be plugged in to do a lot of it, too.
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Google's services are nice, but have several limitations:
- Library supports music only
- Library is limited to 20,000 songs
- I'm just as tied to a proprietary solution as I am with iTunes.
Which is called "bluetooth".
That's not the functionality I want. I'm looking for something like Sonos or Airplay offers. I can put a Sonos box (expensive) or Airport Express (cheap) in each room where I want music. Then I can select which rooms I want to play the music (say, deck and living room) and the music will be in sync so that you don't get a w
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A feature to us, perhaps (although it's not that difficult to get non iTunes files onto an iPad), but to the average consumer? If it isn't priced aggressively it will have trouble competing against the iPad.
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The video in the linked article had more that a word on cost :). $499 for the 10", can't remember the other.
Here's a direct link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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If a robot is moving quickly with it then you can say it "runs on android".
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Android is Linux, dumbass.
Yeah, but crippled by a crappy GUI designed for a 3" screen and hands that can't touch type or use a pencil.
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Re: Meh (Score:2)
You're bitching that a smart car is horrible for hauling goods cross country.
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You can attach a trailer to a Smart.
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The best hardware in the world is useless without software.
If the software sucks, the hardware doesn't matter.
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Somebody mod this guy funny.
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