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Is Intel Selling Bay Trail Chips Below Cost? 156

edxwelch writes "An analyst at Bernstein Research has found that Intel is selling their tablet Bay Trail chips to OEMs below cost, concluding that after end rebates, Intel's tablet revenues are likely to be "close to zero," while profits will be negative. Intel has responded that the 'special costs' Intel is incurring are not pushing down gross margin. Intel needs to offer the subsidies to OEMs building $199-$299 devices to bring the bill of materials down and make them competive with cheaper chips from the likes of MediaTek and Rockchip."
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Is Intel Selling Bay Trail Chips Below Cost?

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  • by east coast ( 590680 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:37PM (#46175571)
    So what's the real difference here? The difference is that Intel is selling something of real world value. Dice is destroying something of real world value.
  • -1 ontopic (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:38PM (#46175587)

    Fuck Beta is the only thing to say today.

  • by grommit ( 97148 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:42PM (#46175629)
    Intel has been doing this for a long time. They know how to make money off of it. Dice Holdings on the other hand only seems to know how to ignore their readers and create a "BETA" website that is flat out painful to read.
  • Re:-1 ontopic (Score:4, Insightful)

    by DaTrueDave ( 992134 ) * on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:45PM (#46175659)

    I will be joining in the Slashcott from Feb 10-Feb 17. No on-topic replies today!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:45PM (#46175661)

    FUCK BETA!! You are changing a formula for success that you obviously don't understand. Change can be good, but change is not good for the sake of change. Software and websites developed by people who do not understand their users will always be a catastrophe.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:51PM (#46175723)

    The editors are getting involved by modding down the "fuck beta stuff", but only this comment went from +5 to -1: http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4760775&cid=46174399

    I think we have hit on what is really going on. Slashdot is being killed so that the brand can be re-purposed.

  • Re:FTC issue? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:53PM (#46175739)

    SLASHBETA - A violation of human dignity.


  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @02:12PM (#46175959)

    Dice holding, you are looking at this revolt and I hope you all feel like a bunch of dicks.


  • Fuck Beta (Score:3, Insightful)

    by sexconker ( 1179573 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @02:13PM (#46175975)

    The day I lose access to the classic version of Slashdot is the day I block slashdot.org at the border.
    Your move, Dice.

  • by gman003 ( 1693318 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @02:17PM (#46176017)

    I'm not a guy who blindly follows what he's used to. When I got Windows 8, I gave Metro a try. It has some good parts, and I don't even dislike the look of it. I could have adapted to the inconsistencies, and the weird tabletness of it all. But after trying dozens of apps, I found that none of them worked as well as the desktop applications.

    I like to think I'm a guy who does what works. Metro didn't work, so I no longer use it. I got a program that gives me a start menu back, and it lets me configure it to be even better-fitted to my needs than the stock W7 menu.

    I gave Slashdot Beta a try, because I thought it deserved a chance. Perhaps all the hate for it was just small-minded traditionalists clinging on to the familiar. But no. Slashdot Beta breaks all the important functionality, and it makes it look worse. If it goes live as it currently is, not only am I quitting Slashdot for good, but I'll be throwing a proposal to my bosses about making a competitor, because the market for an audience-focused tech site will be wide open (I'm currently contemplating "Alpha" as a name).

    Slashdot Classic has problems, certainly. Unicode is broken, HTML comments are stupid, the design isn't that great, and since the thing is still running on Perl I'm sure there's some hindrances to continued development. Slashdot needs a rewrite, a clean new technical foundation powering a new front-end design.

    But Beta isn't it. With all the problems Classic has, Beta is a million times worse. I can't think of even one way in which Beta is superior - it is a step down on all fronts, obviously designed by people who never used Slashdot and only copied from other news sites and comment forums.

  • by rodrigoandrade ( 713371 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @02:17PM (#46176039)
    Fuck Slashdot Beta Fuck Dice

    Fuck Slashdot Beta Fuck Dice

    Fuck Slashdot Beta Fuck Dice
  • Re:-1 ontopic (Score:5, Insightful)

    by geminidomino ( 614729 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @02:28PM (#46176175) Journal

    You are NOT a paying customer

    Nope. As people are so fond of pointing out, we're the product. Since our displeasure with the new UX-infested abortion obviously, as you so correctly put it, "means squat to Dice," maybe having a bunch of "products" walking off the shelves and out of the store will get their attention.

    Can't speak for the others, but whether or not I walk back onto the shelves on the 18th depends on whether or not they manage to complete the cranio-rectal extraction or not.

  • Re:-1 ontopic (Score:3, Insightful)

    by geminidomino ( 614729 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @02:59PM (#46176565) Journal

    Their chief revenue is from ads that are viewed by slashdotters

    It's not just google et al selling our data that makes us "the product." The "customer" is the one who gives them money (the advertisers). What they're getting in exchange is exposure; our "eyeballs", in scumbag speak. Complaints and feedback go ignored, so clearly they don't care whether we like it or not: the theory to be tested by the "Valentine's Day Massacre" is whether they care if we don't like it enough to drop their ad impressions and, subsequently, their revenue.

    Without users, they have nothing to sell.

  • by Belial6 ( 794905 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @03:01PM (#46176595)
    Sounds like the opportunity for a huge win for Commander Taco.

    1) Make Slashdot a popular site.
    2) Sell Slashdot for lots of money
    3) Wait for new owners to kill Slashdot
    4) Make new Slashdot site with different name
    5) Wait for everyone to switch to new site
    6) Sell new site for lots of money
    7) Profit!!!
  • FUCK BETA (Score:5, Insightful)

    by vivek7006 ( 585218 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @03:10PM (#46176727) Homepage
    FUCK BETA. I want my classic back. And one more thing, FUCK BETA!
  • Bad Attitude (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Lord_Jeremy ( 1612839 ) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @06:53PM (#46179449)
    Please, there's way more to say today.

    The "fuck beta" obsession is actually making reading slashdot far more unpleasant for me than the Beta layout. A lot of people here are saying that the site leadership is totally ignoring the opinions of the community. Did any of you actually use the beta and the mobile site back in October when they initially solicited feedback? They were practically unusable, and Beta has definitely become much more pleasant to use by this point. That means that someone is listening and taking feedback into account.

    Note that "fuck beta" is entirely useless feedback. The layout is going to change, there's no preventing it. Slashdot has invested a great deal of developer man-hours (aka: money) into updating the site. So lets provide useful feedback and constructive criticism. I for one am much happier with the performance of Slashdot on mobile platforms. The layout is actually responsive now, and it's much easier to browse through stories on a 3.5" screen. There are still some styles issues, notably the story titles typeface is awkward and the comments sections get unreadably squashed at times. As a matter of personal taste I dislike seeing so much empty off-white space everywhere, but a lot of UI design in general has gone in that direction for some reason.

    The bottom line is this: A goddamn visual redesign of the site does not constitute an effort to kill the community. A lot of the anti-Beta noise is borderline paranoid about that. The submission system isn't changing. The commenting and moderation system isn't changing. The mechanics of being part of the slashdot community isn't changing. Hell there's pretty much exactly the same ad space on the new site as the old one. Let's all try to be reasonable and constructive. Less of the "fuck beta" more of the "I want it to do X instead"

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