A Big Step Forward In Air Display and Interface Tech 65
wjcofkc writes "Interactive displays projected into the air in the spirit of Iron Man have been heralded as the next step in visual technology. Yet many obstacles remain. According to Russian designer Max Kamanin, creator of Displair, many the problems have now been largely cracked. With this attempt at refining the technology, the image is created inside a layer of dry fog which is composed of ultra-fine water droplets so small they lack moisture. Three-dimensional projections are then created using infrared sensors. The projected screen currently responds intuitively to 1,500 hand movements, many of which are similar to those used on mobile devices, such as pinch and zoom. The most immediate applications include advertising and medicine, with the latter offering a more hygienic alternative to touchscreens. The most immediate objection from home and office computer users is that they don't want to be waving their hands around all day, and while such questions as 'What happens when I turn on a fan?' are not answered here, just imagine a future with a projected keyboard and trackpad that use puff-air haptic feedback with the option of reaching right into the screen whenever it applies to the application at hand — and applications that take advantage of such a technology would no doubt come along. Better yet, imagine for yourself in the comments. As always, pictures speak a thousand words, so don't neglect the articles gallery."
Re: many the problems (Score:4, Insightful)
"the image is created inside a layer of dry fog which is composed of ultra-fine water droplets so small they lack moisture. "
Really ... WTF. Water that lacks moisture. That's like sound that lacks vibrations.
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Watch out, it could be Chubby Rain.
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Re: many the problems (Score:1)
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Today's problems are tomorrows answers.
Unfortunately today's answers are far too often tomorrow's problems.
No moisture, or no perceptible moisture? (Score:2)
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You might want to check where Houston is before you talk about Phoenix and Houston being remotely similar, other than hot.
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If they can project an image into it, it's perceptible.
Porn (Score:3)
Seems like the obvious application.
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Water droplets so small they lack moisture... (Score:5, Funny)
...as described in a summary so concise it lacks sense.
Sure, I'll pass... (Score:2)
The porn industry will be at the forefront of this technology.
Having said that, really, it will be Google and the *rest* of the targeted advertising industry whores that will be pushing this technology, it will *not* be for the "benefit of mankind", it will be a "delivery system" for paid content.
And, it will be yet another way to exit reality and live in an imaginary world - in your mom's basement
Even more consumption-oriented (Score:2)
You think touchscreens are bad for haptic feedback? What happens when you don't even get the impact against the screen as feedback that you've actually pressed something?
I'll answer my own question - this is focused on data consumption, not data production, to an even greater degree than touchscreens are; or for situations where an alternative input method will be used (voice, perhaps? I can't envision a mouse+keyboard being used with this)
There are niches for this, obviously, but I definitely don't think i
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I suspect that there are not niches for this. The maximum opacity you can achieve is going to be very low, so while you can vaguely see an image (or see one moderately well with a completely dark background an no ambient light), it's still going to fully suck as a display technology.
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I've found that almost anything imaginable has a niche, it's just a question of whether the niche is able to afford the technology and development thereof.
You just have to figure out situations where the weaknesses become strengths. For instance, translucent displays would be essential for an automotive or aircraft HUD. Or perhaps have a transparent layer on top of a traditional display, for a two-layer effect.
Woohoo, technology (Score:2)
In a word: Clumsy (Score:2)
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Yeah it probably will go nowhere. But maybe if they can get it working, it could conceivably replace touchscreens at ATMs and booths that users interface with for a short amount of time doing simple stuff like selecting YES or NO.
I predict the mouse and keyboard will never be replaced for any serious work until direct brain implants can point the cursor precisely where the user is thinking.
The thousand words I saw (Score:3)
If many of the problems have been solved, why do the pictures in the gallery look like burry 2D with dim output in a dark room?
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It could be the "fuzzy logic" they've used in "solving" the "problems":
the image is created inside a layer of dry fog which is composed of ultra-fine water droplets so small they lack moisture
... let's call a recess and re-convene when that statement makes sense, shall we?
Because I'm pretty sure that "shining lasers -- OR just some plain old light -- onto a cloud of WATER VAPOR" is basically where we've been since 1970. My parents were well-familiar with it enough to laugh about how pointless the technology of doing exactly that was, back in 1986.
Let me digress: my parents laughed at the attempts to "bring back 3D" (in cinema
Re:The thousand words I saw (Score:5, Informative)
TFA describes it in a way that makes sense even if it's technically inaccurate:
The water drops are so tiny they don't have any moisture in them; you can test it on paper or your glasses -- your piece of paper will remain dry and your glasses won't steam up.
More accurately: The water drops are so tiny they won't moisten things they contact.
... let's call a recess and re-convene when that statement makes sense, shall we?
You may now resume bashing the gizmo for being inadequate instead of the submitter for being incomprehensible or the editors for being incompetent.
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Won't *noticeably* moisten the things they contact, you mean.
I don't need this abuse from you. Why don't you go work for the snake-oil company if they're so cutting edge that water isn't wet.
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I was not being sarcastic. I meant what I said literally: Please continue bashing the gizmo for being inadequate. Despite the hype they have not solved the problems which make these displays useful only as novelties.
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Because they're blurry 3D with dim, translucent output in a dark room, and the camera only captures 2 of the 3 dimensions.
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It doesn't look like blurry 2D photos in the middle of a sauna, which has been the problem. Not that there were hairy fat dudes in the background - there just weren't any hot people. Apologies to the furry crowd - I assume you're into hairy fat dudes, I just felt like appealing to the majority.
Now the 2D reductions look considerably better. Use your imagination just a little, compare with anything out there, and good gracious gobshite mcfuckerwad that's awesome.
I'm excited just so the people whining abou
Water droplets that lack moisture, um? (Score:2)
"With this attempt at refining the technology, the image is created inside a layer of dry fog which is composed of ultra-fine water droplets so small they lack moisture."
Say WHAT?
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Projection on water (Score:3)
Projection onto streams of water is well known. Here are some examples. [jcdecaux-oneworld.com] It's used to create big-screen effects outdoors, usually for PR purposes. You usually get big, but fuzzy, images, because the water screen isn't flat enough. Huge light levels are required, so it takes expensive projectors. Indoors, I've seen it done in a doorway, and you could walk through the image, getting slightly wet.
Until somebody figures out how to make a curtain of mist/water/some gas or liquid stay very flat, this isn't going to be more than an advertising gimmick.
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It's a party trick, nothing else. You can't do much useful work with it because the display is transparent, meaning the background is whatever distracting crap you have back there.
Look at it this way. We have been able to print on transparent plastic sheets for decades but no-one prefers them to paper because they are only useful when projected against a large white screen.
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It would be particularly nice for mechanics as you could put interactive 3D guides and even take the display underneath the car itself.
I'm going to take a fog machine and projector underneath a car? You're loopy. Hmm, I accidentally typed loppy first, perhaps you're that as well. What is needed for that job is reality overlay.
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Nonsense, you could set it up against a backdrop and use it like a regular monitor.
Or you could use a regular monitor which will be cheaper and easier to set up...
It makes sense any place workers have to wear gloves, such as restaurants, hospitals, auto shops, etc.
Not sure what you think gloves have to do with the display tech -- these all sound like excellent uses for ordinary LCD monitors.. If your concern's actually about the touch-sensing side, on the basis that "My iPad's touch sensor doesn't work with gloves on, therefore no touch sensor works with gloves on -- except the method they use with this mist-screen", then you're being silly. Optical touchscreens of various sorts have bee
What step forward? (Score:2, Interesting)
Additionally, they are not in any way 3D. They aren't volumetric, there's no holography going
Not so new technology (Score:1)
Fatigue will be a problem (Score:1)
SeaQuest DSV (Score:1)