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AirPlay Alternative Mirrors and Streams To TVs and PCs 62

Posted by Soulskill from the get-my-content-to-my-flickering-box dept.
DeviceGuru writes "AirTame has developed an AirPlay-like protocol and HDMI dongle for 1080p video streaming and screen mirroring from PCs to PCs and TVs, and has substantially exceeded its $160,000 Indiegogo funding goal. AirTame streams from Windows, Mac, and Linux PCs to other PCs via apps at both ends, and to TVs via the HDMI dongle, and also offers a multicast mode for broadcasting to multiple PCs and TVs for use in classrooms or conferences. But at least initially, there won't be support for Android or iOS devices in the mix, due OS restrictions. The company says it plans to release AirTame's software, API, and protocol source code under a dual-license enabling free use with GPL-like restrictions, and paid use for commercial applications requiring proprietary modifications."
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  • Thanks, but I'll stick to plex and chromecast
    • The article claims that AirTame lets users "drag windows over and back to your primary display", which means it might even support latencies low enough for gaming or other interactive access to a machine across a LAN. That appears to be a goal given AirTame's support for "joystick, key-press, and mouse events" How's the video latency on Chromecast?

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by xombo ( 628858 )

        AirPlay already does this. The standard seems open enough that there are many 3rd party apps that I use which can broadcast to the AppleTV. Plus, it has all the infrastructure, updates, and support of Apple.

        $160,000 for this project? Am I missing something?

        • Re: Video latency (Score:3, Informative)

          by tysonedwards ( 969693 )
          Airplay and Miracast already do this. So if you are an anti-Apple zealot, you still have a perfectly good option.

          • Re: Video latency (Score:5, Funny)

            by ichthus ( 72442 ) on Wednesday December 11, 2013 @12:58AM (#45658233) Homepage
            You don't have to be any kind of zealot to dislike Apple. iTunes makes it quite easy.

            • Re: (Score:3)

              by smash ( 1351 )
              iTunes can be quite happily ignored. I am a self confessed apple zealot and can count the number of times I've dealt with iTunes in the past year on 1 hand. Also, it's nowhere near as painful (like everything else) on the mac.
          • Holy shit, how did I not know about Miracast already?

            • Maybe, like me, you have an AMD-based video card(s). AMD has yet to release (non-beta) drivers that support Miracast for my video cards. It's been talked about for months on the forums. I believe Nvidia provides the support for the majority of their recent cards already.

          • I don't know about "perfectly good option", I hadn't previously heard of Miracast so I did some reading. It look promising but I can't find much in the way of adapters for it and what is out there has pretty hit or miss reviews. Additionally the range of hardware that might support miracast seems a bit limited. I have a PC with an i5 processor with no WiDi and my video card is a GTX 560 Ti that I can't find any information on supporting miracast. I could possibly update to windows 8.1 which is supposed to n

      • Chromecast is pretty great, but as it is merely an extension on the pc/mac within chrome all you can do is view a single tab of the browser, or use one of the services. I'm not concerned with broadcasting my entire desktop or laptop environment to my tbs, I just want access to all of my tvs, movies and music in he. With plex media server and plex apps, I now have easy, user friendly access to all my media on my tvs or other devices (cell, tablet, and my roommates can access my media content on their devices

  • I'd go for anything (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    That was documented, open, free, and universally adopted. A woman can dream.

  • On my rooted Android device I use AirAudio to steam the sounds/music from my phone and tablet to my PC and sound system. At the PC end I use Shairport4w Yes there are restrictions that stop this from working on a non-rooted phone. I guess Google have failed to produce anything useful for this themselves. Samsung have some music streaming applications but they cant stream all audio output to the PC.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by jrumney ( 197329 )

      Android has Chromecast. It's a bit different than AirPlay in that it is designed to let apps on an Android device work together with corresponding apps on a smart TV, and the focus so far has been pulling content from the cloud, rather than playing back local content (even Play Music can only play music that you have stored in the cloud, not locally stored music yet). There are python implementations of the server that work with YouTube, Netflix and Google Play Music.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by jonwil ( 467024 )

      Google (or Samsung or any Android OEM) will never make or ship an app that can send all audio or video from the phone to another device because app developers who make apps where they dont want that to happen (or where the providers of the content for that app dont want it to happen) would kick up a major stink.

  • Wireless HDMI (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Wow, they've rediscovered wireless HDMI, how exciting....

  • Ah ha! $89 (+ $15 outside of Denmark) (Score:5, Informative)

    by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Wednesday December 11, 2013 @12:46AM (#45658191)

    I skimmed through the whole thing, looking for the price. No wonder it's buried at the bottom - this costs as much as an Apple TV!

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by smash ( 1351 )
      But... it's open! Anything is free to use it! Never mind that neither android nor iOS currently can...

  • Miracast (Score:5, Interesting)

    by im_thatoneguy ( 819432 ) on Wednesday December 11, 2013 @12:49AM (#45658203)

    I find it notable that there is no mention of miracast anywhere in the GoGo description. Isn't this what Miracast is supposed to deliver?

    • Re:Miracast (Score:5, Informative)

      by Vlado ( 817879 ) on Wednesday December 11, 2013 @01:45AM (#45658389) Homepage

      Actually there is mention of Miracast, alongside with Chromecast and Apple TV. The section you're looking for is the "Competitors" section.
      http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/airtame-wireless-hdmi-for-everyone--2 [indiegogo.com]

      I have to say that I haven't been playing around with any of these things yet, but what they (Airtame) are claiming, seems quite cool to me. Especially the part about desktop extension and multicast sharing.

      • I agree, I don't know how the other things mentioned work, but they seem to only "mirror" one type of device or only certain apps on certain devices. At the moment I have a media server laptop running Ubuntu 13.10 in my bedroom closet with an HDMI cable running though the wall to my TV. It would be much more convenient to be able to move the laptop somewhere else and not have to worry about finding a longer HDMI cable or cutting holes in the wall to run the cables. I do use Plex on the laptop upstairs to pl
  • An open source based HDMI key so I can finally get one device that plays all my content over DLNA. This has great potential to also work for PC gaming in the living room. From the Gogo description I gather it has a hardware h264 decoded, which would make it an interesting PC in the living room(think NVIDIA Shield)

  • Last century, we had all of this capability, working, as RTP and RTSP. Of course, since that wasn't HTML-based (for very good reasons), we eneded up with DLNA, supported by hundreds, if not thousands, of devices from various vendors. Of course, Apple couldn't do anything already working and standard, which would mess up their revenue model of locking in the fanboys, so they came up with yet another protocol, as did Microsoft. Further, there are a few other minor players (Sonos, for example) that also cre

    • Uhuh - they are re-inventing the square wheel again.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by smash ( 1351 )
      Having the capability and putting out and easy to use, working implementation are two entirely different things. Sooner or later nerds will learn that this is where apple excels.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by dltaylor ( 7510 )

        If they'd put a Apple-centric front end on RTP/RTSP, then there would have been compatibility AND interoperability, rather than pure "get the suckers' money".

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by madak3 ( 3136071 )
      Actually DLNA really sucks bad. It's a non-solutiion to a misunderstand problem. Miracast and WiDi sounds like an actual alternatives to AirPlay, but it's no where to be found yet. And AirPlay just grows stronger and stronger over the years.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      Last century, we had all of this capability, working, as RTP and RTSP. Of course, since that wasn't HTML-based (for very good reasons), we eneded up with DLNA, supported by hundreds, if not thousands, of devices from various vendors. Of course, Apple couldn't do anything already working and standard, which would mess up their revenue model of locking in the fanboys, so they came up with yet another protocol, as did Microsoft. Further, there are a few other minor players (Sonos, for example) that also create

  • No mention HDCP issues... Also, PC-PC streaming only works after online registration.
  • .... and screw it like real man

  • This Shit Pisses Me Off! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Yet another one to add to the list.

    WiDi, Chromecast, AirPlay, MiraPlay, DLNA and now this all in the already over crowded and virtually unusable 2.4GHz spectrum. Yet I still can't get my Samsung Galaxy S4 to stream to an Android dongle!

    Connecting... Single frame... Black screen... wait wait wait... single frame... time out.
    Oops, format not supported.
    Video blocked due to lack of DRM! Fuck you!

    TBH, at $35 Chromecast seems like the best chance at the moment, but I have to buy another dongle that I can't modify

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