Milestone: The Millionth UK-Made Raspberry Pi 129
judgecorp writes "The millionth Raspberry Pi microcomputer has been made in the Foundation's Welsh factory. Total sales so far are 1.75 million, including the initial stock made in China." (Do you have one? If so, what are you using it for?)
I have two... (Score:4, Informative)
The first one is used as a media player with the openelec distribution (it's the best one, with a very active community), and the second one is used as a secondary computer, with the raspbian distribution and an amazon kindle used as a display :-)
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and the second one is used as a secondary computer, with the raspbian distribution and an amazon kindle used as a display :-)
Pardon my ignorance.. But how do you use a Kindle as a display for a PI?
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I'm curious as well.
I use mine as a XMPP server. The following was before I had a blackout here (Sept. 16):
dmbasso@raspberrypi ~ $ uptime
11:46:25 up 180 days, 10:47, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
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http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/kindle [raspberrypi.org]
I have two and, (Score:2, Informative)
I have done nothing useful with them. They are collecting dust
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The problem is you, not the raspberry!! :-)
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Yeah, I could understand owning one Pi that gathers dust. But two? You'd have to be thinking: "you know, there's a 3 inch by 2 inch rectangle on my desk that I'd like to keep dust off of. Maybe I'll buy a Raspberry Pi and just leave it there."
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I have two, also. Although they run Linux, they are slow... really slow. A LAMP system is a joke, not to mention that I get file corruption problems after a careful power-down/halt and reboot. I have one of them running in a telephone monitor application, and that works, somewhat. Linux on the cheap it's not.
Re:I have two and, (Score:5, Informative)
Are you running the entire OS off of an SD card? That might be your problem, as SD cards are relatively slow and not designed for frequent read/writes. Databases will rot those things out pretty quickly. Since the SD is required to boot the Pi, I set mine up to load the kernel from the SD and the rest of the OS from a USB disk. It is significantly faster and more reliable, and thus far it has proven to be a pretty solid and reasonably fast personal Linux server. (Though I do run it without X.)
Here's a guide that describes the process.
http://www.dingleberrypi.com/2013/05/install-and-run-raspbian-from-a-usb-flash-drive/ [dingleberrypi.com]
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How about donating them to a school?
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RasPi had so much potential (Score:3, Interesting)
Unfortunately, they made these little computers a bit *too* cheaply. In my experience, their poor power regulation makes them just flaky enough to be totally unsuitable for use as anything other than as a nerd toy.
Which is really too bad - I wanted them to pull it off, and they do make a neat nerd toy, but in any kind of actual production use where random failures are a Bad Thing, and failure to boot is damn near guaranteed to happen occasionally, they are unsuitable.
On the other hand, I hear that the beaglebones have solved this problem, though I've never laid hands on one myself.
And on the gripping hand, Arduino has been, for me, open source and cheap done properly. Love that kit.
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I think that was kinda the intent though.
The stated goal early on was to be an ultra-cheap computer for students to mess around with, not to be a low cost SBC for production use. That said, it does make an awesome nerd toy, and probably will find real use in production in cases where random failures can be tolerated (driving the display monitors that seem to be all the rage everywhere seems a really good example).
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And also, Eben and the Pi foundation stated in the past that they would be super excited if other companies took thier lead and created competing products. This is exactly what happened. you can have a Pi A ~$30, Pi B ~$40, BeagleBone ~$45 (adafruit prices). The landscape is about to get larger with the Arduino TRE. I'm SURE the Pi foundation doesn't care if you buy a Pi or something else, as long as you're exploring, making cool things, and sharing your knowledge with the community.
I recently picked up bot
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He obviously didn't bother to read the documentation and tries to run hard disks without a USB hub, etc.
Rules about current consumption are only for losers.
Re:RasPi had so much potential (Score:5, Interesting)
Same here.
My RPi from the very first batch has been gathering dust ever since I ran into a whole bunch of power and USB issues (the USB and SD port - or is it the Ethernet and SD, I forget? - both compete for bus resources and slagging any one of them can *silently* drop packets on the other). They tried to fix it but their debugging was non-existent for so long I stopped providing helpful data. About a year later, they put out a firmware fix that basically bodges things because the hardware design can't be changed.
Couple with initial compatibility problems resulting in sending my SD card to Broadcom themselves at the request of some RPi folks and then NEVER hearing anything back, not a dicky-bird, and still having the problems on even the latest firmwares, and the whole thing ended up in the attic. You honestly can't use a device that has problems that intermittent / unpredictable under heavy load, especially when all the interesting stuff will keep it under heavy load for the majority of its runtime.
Some day I'll knock it up to be a doorbell or some other non-critical electronic project but it's really just-another-IC to me at the moment, so it's gathering dust. Keeping it purely for future nostalgia value ("I remember I spent fucking months trying to get this to work!") and the fact that selling it isn't worth it because they cost so little.
Depending on your definition, they delivered the device they promised. Trouble is, it's next-to-useless for anything non-trivial in the homebrew-gadget department and don't even get me started on their selling this to schools (I work in schools - I showed everyone, from teachers to decision-makers to techies, right at the peak of the popularity of the launch when it was featuring on the BBC. We unanimously agreed that it was a nice gadget that, if you have the knowledge to use it with the educational resources provided - which is next to none - then you don't need it and can do much more interesting things on an ordinary PC).
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Oh, forgot to say.
The biggest use of it I ever had was - I needed to display a PC on two large external monitors connected over HDMI via 50m CAT6 runs on an extender. The extender for one of the displays broke.
Fortunately, I only needed to clone the image onto all the displays, so I put the RPi on the Cat6 behind the display, plugged it's HDMI out into the display, wired the cable to be Ethernet, had the RPi boot to a VNC viewer, and ran a VNC server on the machine that had the display.
It was small enough,
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did they finally fix the 'elephant bug' (as its called)?
that was the #1 showstopper for me continuing to use the rpi.
the ethernet was not reliable since it went thru usb and usb was the problem!
without 100% rock solid usb, the board is not trustable.
the power supply issue is not hard to work around but the usb bug was a major issue and an embarassment.
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I've had no trouble with network. I'm using NFS and ssh to move files andstream audio. (but i assume those protocols are robust against the odd dropped packet)
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Well my daughter's school is using it with MIT Scratch which has Pi-specific plugins to allow you to control the GPIOs directly. Then the whole board goes onto a robotics platform and drives around while you access Scratch on the desktop over VNC to control it all.
I'm not sure how you go about doing that on an ordinary PC.
I guess imagination is the key here ...
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their poor power regulation makes them just flaky enough to be totally unsuitable for use as anything other than as a nerd toy.
Last I looked, the Pi depends on the power regulation of the power supply being used. I've had no problems with my Pi's but I also have 2 Amp capable 5V supplies and I use short USB cables to power the thing. I've not had any stability problems.
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I had problems initially with the adapter that came with my Nokia phone -- it was labeled as 1.5 amp. Got a bunch of errors on boot if a keyboard, mouse, and ethernet were all plugged in. Then I switched to the adapter that came with my Samsung galaxy nexus -- rock solid.
What I'd like to know, for anyone else having problems, does switching to a "known good" power source help? And what other good power sources are there that are readily available (such as maybe one of the Apple usb chargers)?
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I am sure you are using a knock off USB power adapter to run your Pi. The Raspberry Pi's I am running have not crashed over long periods of time. Some generic USB power adapters put out huge amounts of noise and are not regulated well.
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Dirt cheap thin clients. (Score:2)
Our business uses them as Linux Terminal Server Project thin clients. We were able to cut our new hardware costs to 1/5th of what they were before.
Good work guys. (Score:5, Insightful)
People thought it would never get it off the ground. Then people thought it would never ship. Then that it would be plagued by problems and die. Then that it would never hold interest long enough to get to the point where you could get one without waiting 6 months.
There are still lots of haters, talking about how there are better “alternatives” out there (alternatives usually being 3 or 4 times the cost, impossible to get, or apples to oranges).
That said, I can order a perfectly functional unit, for the promised price, and have it here (in Canada) in about 4 days. I’ve got 5 of them now. I’d call that a huge success.
You brought something awesome into the world, and I thank you :)
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I've got 2 of them driving displays. Basically just running X with appropriate xauthority setup and synergy.
One of them I'm using as an isolated computer to do all my banking/financial stuff on. This replaces a an old P2 box I was using for this purpose.
Another I'm just messing around with (playing with the GPIO pins mostly).
And I've still got one still in the box.
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The MK808B, just to name one example out of many, isn't 3 or 4 times the cost, nor is it impossible to purchase. At $45 including shipping It's less than twice the cost. But why are people who widen their horizons, or require more computational/graphical power "haters"? That sounds pretty damned narrow-minded.
Re:Good work guys. (Score:4, Insightful)
Nothing wrong with people using other products that better suit ones needs, the hate part comes from people measuring the pi against alternatives that are either more expensive (at that scale, $10 is huge), doesn't do the same thing (no video output, runs android, etc..), or impossible to get hold of.
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That list of differences wasn't specifically against the mentioned alternative.
I haven't specifically looked into the MK808B, but just based on a quick image search, the lack of GPIO pins stands out.
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Lack of ethernet port would also stand out for those 3 use cases. I don't use wifi at home, it would probably suck for X forwarding, and certainly wouldn't be ideal for an isolated machine used for banking...
That aside, those are just my 3 immediate uses for it. I haven't had time to get any of my planned projects off the ground yet (my specific interest is GPIO + opendds (or some other dds-esq message/data middleware))...
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"I don't use wifi at home, it would probably suck for X forwarding, and certainly wouldn't be ideal for an isolated machine used for banking..." - why, exactly?
Someone turned on the microwave.. whelp, all those X apps are now hung. As a principle I think using wifi for anything that doesn't move is silly (hence why I don't use it at home, where all my machines are in fixed locations).
i guess you need gpio for banking errands
Did you even read the second line in my post. Using it to drive 2 displays and as a banking machine isn't all I plan on doing with the things, those were just two good uses I could do right away.
Decision logic:
RaspPi: GPIO and can probably run OpenDDS (or some form of DDS, RTi recentl
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No Ethernet (but 11n which might be more useful for some), runs Android (although apparently one can put Ubuntu on it), and most importantly: no GPIO. I'd say it falls in the "apples to oranges" category.
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ive never cared for the Pi for a few reasons, call me a hater but ive reasons..
Beagle board over the Pi? To each their own I guess. I like cheap myself....
This software/electrical engineer own two Pi's and I see why they are popular. They are CHEAP and reasonably well supported. They are also easy to setup and use in most suitable applications and they are CHEAP. I do not complain about lack of horse power or about the Pi's other limitations because it is CHEAP. My only complaint about the Pi is the card slot is way too easy to break, but you can replace the slot or just replace
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Can you recommend a board with a GPU that has acceleration with an opensource driver. The current state of opensource ARM seems a bit basic http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ3MTM [phoronix.com] . Even intels minowboard uses one of the powervr GPUs that tainted half the netbooks back in the day.
The old CPU is a shame, but its been fast enough for me so far. For my MPD server I replaced a Beagleboard with RaspberryPI, which is plenty fast for streaming playing FLACs and MP3s.
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The begalbone in your link lists for $89 MSRP. It has less memory and is a whole lot less popular than the Pi. So it's more expensive and has additional limitations. But if you like them, by all means, buy them and have fun.
But my point is that the Pi is supposed to be what it is. It is cheap, inexpensive, low cost, educational computing device that is as CHEAP as possible so it can be used by as many folks as possible......
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The newer beaglebone, the beaglebone 'black', is $45 everywhere. This is the best thing raspberry pi has done, I think... make beaglebones cheaper.
It's got:
1GHz arm of some sort,
512MB RAM, 2GB flash storage onboard, more through SD slot.
Ethernet that isn't a hackjob attached to USB
USB (host and device)
HDMI
an asston of i/o compared to pi.
mounting holes aren't a fucking afterthought. Jesus christ, talk about amateur night.
has two microcontrollery type peripherals (on die) for delegating low level IO stuff to.
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Point taken, but remember you are not their target audience over there at the Pi Foundation. This thing is not about interfacing it to other things, albeit it still can, it's about being a cheap way to introduce folks to programming. Others may be matching their price now, but when they came out, they where the leader in cost/performance for a learning platform. I'm personally miffed that they can't get some of the processor chip fully utilized because of NDA's but they are/where cheap....
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1GHz arm of some sort,
Specifically a cortex A8.
512MB RAM, 2GB flash storage onboard, more through SD slot.
Correct
Ethernet that isn't a hackjob attached to USB
Though there were some teething problems with the driver when I tried it, not sure if they have been sorted yet.
USB (host and device)
Indeed and unlike the original white beaglebone there isn't a stupid hub sitting between the device port on the IC and the connector.
HDMI
It does but the capabilities of that port are somewhat limited compared to the one on the Pi, some discussion at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/4vge3Zs8dYE [google.com]
an asston of i/o compared to pi.
Much of which conflicts with either the EMMC (the onboard
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> 2. its encumbered, so enjoy one more $45 product that kicks FLOSS to the curb.. Beaglebone isnt encumbered...but beagleboard isnt the word for god on the lips and hearts of every blogosphere hipster.
The beagleboard uses PowerVR GPU, which requires a closed driver for acceleration.
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I have one! (Score:5, Interesting)
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I did that for a bit. I got to the point where I could put text on the screen before I got distracted by something else. I'm currently planning to repurpose my Pi as a media centre for my parents' kitchen. If it works out, we'll probably replace it with a more powerful machine.
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I'm thinking of it (using https://github.com/dwelch67/raspberrypi [github.com] as a tutorial), but seeing that I just got around to writing "Hello, world!" in an x86 boot sector a few weeks ago (and that's cheating since I'm able to use the BIOS), I might be a while :-P
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jep (Score:1)
So many uses (Score:5, Informative)
I have four RPi boards. One monitors my UPSs, cleanly suspending my server when the power goes out and sending wake-on-LAN massages to it when the power comes back up so that the UPS only needs to drive my switch and AP, one has a camera board and does motion detection to spot people coming into my office, one is currently operating as a Bluetooth LE beacon for testing the new iOS iBeacon stuff and one is just for tinkering. Most of these have a few other services running on them too (two have I2C thermometers on them).
I see a lot of negative comments about the Pi being underpowered. Perhaps if what you want to do is run FPS games or you are trying to run Big Data analytics then this is true but it's plenty powerful enough for a whole host of service tasks. It's not that many years ago that the Pi's level of power would have been considered a high-end desktop configuration. The purpose of the device is to give kids a low-cost entry into programming and it does just that. On top, at $25 for a Model A its fine to put in 'dangerous' places where something bad might happen to it (like outdoors, driving the sensors and servos for my Halloween decorations). No, I don't have my MongoDB server on a Raspberry Pi, but for many many projects they are just about perfect.
Router (Score:3, Interesting)
Multi-purpose box (Score:1)
RasPi Terminal Server (Score:2)
Two "A"s and a "B" (Score:3, Informative)
I have 2 (Score:3, Interesting)
Public display Adaptor (Score:2)
Using it to display photo's on a public display panel. Also looking at using one as a wireless router
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They are great! (Score:1)
I've got 3 (Score:1)
Using one in the garage for a remote camera with motion sensing on it (wireless dongle for network)
Hooked to the TV in the spare bedroom so any guests can check their mail and do some surfing
Was using one for messing around with for electronics but my media centre died and I'm using the PI for that, bit underpowered for the job but it works ok.
Probably going to order a couple more for other things I want to do.
Geeky in multiple ways (Score:2)
Of course, it's going to be a crappy costume unless I can figure out a way to m
My pi is about communication (Score:2)
also, it's my (inbound) ssh gateway
what could possibly go wrong, right?
Gameshow Controller (Score:1)
My pi is wired up as a Gameshow controller. I bought two 4 inch buttons from Adafruit, they're wired up as a 2 player controller, with sound and light.
Survey Says?
Buzz
Player 1 your answer?
it was a huge hit for a large crowd
Game dev (Score:3)
I used mine to port my game to the platform.
The GPU is really fast and can do 1920x1080@30fps for moderately complex scenes.
http://store.raspberrypi.com/projects/littlecrane [raspberrypi.com]
RasPlex HTPC (Score:2)
arm development (Score:1)
I use mine to create raspian packages for some software I make, so others can use it more easily. Boring, but much easier than cross compiling!
http://mosquitto.org/ [mosquitto.org]
Weather Station, time sync (Score:3)
First one has been running for well over a year now connected to the Weather Station, uploading to various locations including twitter. The Register even picked up on this one as part of a 20 things to do with a pi.
The second is an NTP server using GPS as the time source.
The third is a pure experimental/dev PI.
I've got one more model B & two A's just waiting for a project.
Been meaning to setup a PI Cam on one to complement the weather station so that I get a sky camera (cloud cover by day, long exposure at night for meteor's etc.
Cable replacement (Score:1)
Dr P, Inc's finest creation (Score:1)
Web power strip and door annoyer (Score:3, Interesting)
We had a web power strip at work (8 outlets, control via web interface) go stupid. Rather than toss it, I brought it home and used 8 GPIO pins on the Pi to control the relays. It has a new web interface with direct control, control by time of day and control by offset from sunrise/sunset. My fireplace mantle lights turn on at 40 and 39 minutes before sunset. One turns off at 11 PM and the other turns off 30 minutes after sunrise. Currently at 275 days runtime. Sweet!
The boss bought one at work for a special project. Our janitors always block open the door to a room containing network switches and patch panels. Boss has tried for 12 years to get them to keep it closed. One Pi plus a pair of USB powered (analog input) speakers and mpg123, plus one GPIO pin connected to a magnetic reed switch on the door. Leave the door open for more than 60 seconds and one of two dozen prerecorded voices ask politely but loudly that you shut the door. Another message gets played every 15 seconds until the door is shut. Had some fun working on an algorithm that isn't quite random, so it prevents replay of a message until at least 1/3rd of the other messages have been played. Problem solved, the door is always shut now. 90 days uptime on that Pi.
Love em!
Well done! (Score:2)
I have a Pi and have been pleased with how it has performed. They're not super powerful and they're not made for mission-critical applications, but they're a great toy to tinker with and a great way to learn and experiment. That was their goal, and in that, they have succeeded. Congrats on the success!
Toy (Score:2)
Home automation (Score:1)
system monitoring, and certificate authority (Score:2)
I have two, the first one displays system monitoring data. The diagrams are produced by Graphite on a real server, RPi displays them in a browser. That was not easy at first, because both Chromium and Midori are plagued with memory leaks which does not work well with Javascipt running in 24*7. My son wrote a script which reloads the tabs every hour, since that it works without issues. It only stops when there is a power outage.
I use the other one as a certificate authority, it is not connected to the inte
Not great for audio (Score:2)
Mine is idling at the moment; I couldn't get an acceptable audio setup. I wanted it to pair up with one of my synths (Novation X-Station) which has an audio interface, so I could use it for playing long samples, backing tracks etc. Wouldn't have minded if it had just turned out to be too slow or unstable, but I think the problem is a mixture of not enough USB power and general poor linux audio. Ah well, back to my netbook for that application, and it was cheap enough that I don't mind having it kicking arou
Fantastic tool! (Score:1)
Webcam Server (Score:1)
I have three (Score:1)
The first one is being used for this: http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/07/delicious-raspberry-pi.html [blogspot.com]
The second one for this: http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/07/a-second-helping-of-pi.html [blogspot.com]
The third is for experimentation.
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