Foxconn Betting Big On Firefox OS 94
jfruh writes "Foxconn is firmly identified in the public mind as the company that manufactures iPhones and iPads. But the company is looking to forge its own identity, and sees Firefox OS as the means to do so. To that end, Foxconn is hiring thousands of developers to help work on the open source phone OS and Foxconn's own suite of cloud services."
FireFoxconn (Score:5, Funny)
I hope they succeed!
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Re:FireFoxconn (Score:4, Funny)
What if News Corp decided to get into the phone business and have their phone manufacture by Foxconn running Firefox OS with exclusive content from FOX Entertainment ? Would that be FOXFirefoxconn? Or just FXFFX?
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They'd be out of business in a week.
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Fair and Balanced Failure
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-Sent from my iPhone
"Assembled with pride in a sweatshop with suicide nets strung around it." Yup... just what we need associated with open source: Exploitative labor practices.
Re:FireFoxconn (Score:4, Funny)
The sound of someone trying out the nets?
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not final assembly, but fabrication of chips.
the guys who made the OpemMoko phone, from England, tried finding English manufactured before making shit in china. No really they did. Couldn't do it.
No really, I'd love to have a 'made in murrca' device. I really can't get one.
I could name a few other mobile OS's (Score:3)
that had (at least on paper) thousands of devs that didn't go anywhere. funded by people like Intel, too.
actual devices to shops or gtfo.
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Moblin, I'm guessing.
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meego/tizen/maemo line, depending on how you count you can count them as one or 3. damned if one could find any of those thousands of developers who supposedly worked on that, at least hundreds of millions went into it though(I knew a few).
symbian^4. at least on some theoretical level there were thousand+ people on it. on paper fantasy reports anyhow. actual number attached of actual developers was much lower than publicly implied by companies involved. tens of millions, maybe hundred, at least money wasted
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actual devices to shops or gtfo.
That's what Microsoft thought too.
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actual devices to shops or gtfo.
That's what Microsoft thought too.
well just last week I was paid to develope some stuff for windows phone.. so it's not a total loss.
not that I would buy one for myself but still..
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More open is good for the user.
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Yep, hopefully the Firefox phones won't secretly log our GPS co-ordinates (Apple) or have back-doors that allow the manufacturer to crack the phone's security lock (Apple) or combine all our call / text / email / web surfing information in massive databases (Google).
Re:Have Fun Wrangling (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Have Fun Wrangling (Score:5, Interesting)
Its hard enough getting 3 developers working together to produce quality software, let alone 3 THOUSAND. How exactly do they plan to manage this?
From the article, I gather that this is not 3,000 developers working on the OS or its elements, but rather, 3,000 developers spread across many separate projects to develop apps for the brand-new OS. This could be projects consisting of 1, 2, or 10 developers each.
This is actually a really novel approach and I bet Microsoft are now kicking themselves that they didn't think of it. In a matter of weeks, or at most a few months, a fully-populated app-store can be made available. With this approach, they'll be probably ranked #3 straight out the gate in terms of apps. Bravo.
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I imagine the labor laws are rather lax in the places where they have their offices. I don't think they're committing to hiring a person for N number of months straight off the bat. Those 3000 could be tried out and laid off continuously until they have ~300 good developers that they can spread out across ~50 projects at any one time.
It's not the number of (non-game) apps that matters, it's the quality and coverage. There are 'only' a couple of hundred good non-game apps out there for Android and iOS anyway
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Isn't it like that in any jurisdiction that allows at-will employment?
In Ohio, at least, the rule of law is basically as such:
Q: "Will I have a job tomorrow?"
A: "Maybe!"
or fr
Re: Have Fun Wrangling (Score:2)
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Is this subtle sarcasm, cleverly pointing out the parallel to windows 8? Or is it pure self assured ignorance?
Yes!
They tried (sort of) (Score:2)
Firstly, I think they got Nokia to do most of the heavy lifting making apps for Win 8.
They also offered developers US$100 for every app in their store [businessinsider.com]
They could have of course taken it one step further and hired them to make the apps, but that would have been monumentally expensive and I think they underestimated the lack of developer interest in Win8.
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Its hard enough getting 3 developers working together to produce quality software, let alone 3 THOUSAND. How exactly do they plan to manage this?
WTF do they need 3000 developers for? I would think 1/10th that number would be more than enough.
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Chain them to a steel table with a water bucket and a pee bucket the way all bosses want to treat their developers. It is China.
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HTML5 supports offline apps, how about your CloudOS ?
Re:How about a Cloud OS? (Score:4, Funny)
I'm sure you can store a snapshot of your system at any time. To run an app offline, simple view the snapshot in an image viewer.
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The parent basically mentioned VNC, RDP and called it CloudOS. That didn't make a lot of sense to me.
Re:How about a Cloud OS? (Score:4, Informative)
How about a Cloud OS? A VM OS that lives in the cloud and sends screens (instead of data) to your PC, tablet, phone, etc. It will have blazing fast network access, can add cores, RAM, disk space with a click. If you are a geek, you can probably do this, but there are so many details to work out and it violates the terms of service for many hosting places. Make it cheap and easy for the masses. The tech is there, but it isn't mainstream.
yeah everything is would be fast except actual interaction! brilliant!
https://www.google.com/search?q=cloud+desktop [google.com] have fun.
I don't understand how you think it violates terms of hosting places though.. it doesn't. you might need a license on the os you run in there though of course. but you would just end up using android on your desktop if you went this route since if the same stuff and programs are streamed to all of your devices, you're going go by the shittiest device and not the best.
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How about a Cloud OS? A VM OS that lives in the cloud and sends screens (instead of data) to your PC, tablet, phone, etc. It will have blazing fast network access, can add cores, RAM, disk space with a click.
I believe it's called a mainframe.
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How do you ensure "blazing fast network access" and latency? Mobile networks are terrible for latency. Your post is an example of putting the cart before the horse.
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How do you ensure "blazing fast network access" and latency?
By replacing the retina display with a 7-segment LED display.
Sure, it wont fix latency, but the bandwidth available would make their phones display those numbers fast.
It'd blow through your cap blazing fast (Score:2)
It will have blazing fast network access
The only thing "blazing fast" about a mobile operating system built around access to an application server through VNC or OnLive is how fast it'd eat up your monthly data cap.
identified in the public mind as the company... (Score:1)
Maybe foxconn needs to clean up *that* image first.
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Firefox OS banned before it's even done (Score:1)
Firefox OS: made in China.
Good-bye security and trust.
Re:Firefox OS banned before it's even done (Score:5, Insightful)
I thought the Americans were violating all security and trust according to recent news?
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You've not been paying attention, have you?
Perhaps the Chinese are not as comfortable with the NSA watching everything they do as you are.
Brand damage (Score:5, Insightful)
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The difference being locking developers in for 16 hour work days is considered perfectly OK.
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Exactly, just open the door every 24 hours to hose them down, give em some pizza and a carton of T-shirts.
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FireFoxConn OS (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:FireFoxConn OS (Score:5, Insightful)
That is EXACTLY what it needs. I don't want a phone supported by Apple or Google.
Re:FireFoxConn OS (Score:5, Funny)
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Heh... There was a time when 361 comments on a /. article meant it was a topic nobody was interested in.
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Re:FireFoxConn OS (Score:4, Informative)
A number of these are open source. I'm sure you can find something to your liking on that list.
How long will Foxconn need Apple? (Score:4, Insightful)
The day may come when Apple is just the distribution arm of Foxconn. Apple needs Foxconn more than Foxconn needs Apple.
Parallel China to Identured America (Score:1)
Great Idea (Score:1)
Redicurous! (Score:1)
Not to worry, they'll be up to version 21 in weeks (Score:1)
Good? I guess. (Score:1)
The Mozilla folks dont seem tohave their head in the game at all on the computer, and frankly I am not sure they ever did. When really basic stuff like this [mozilla.org] goes untouched for well over 10 years while the developers busy themselves adding 'features' no one wants or needs and redesigning the UI over and over again, you have to wonder what is going on. Apparently, what Mozilla really wanted to do all this time is make a toy OS for smart phones so all their 'designers' can keep themselves busy dragging bitmaps
I think Foxconn wants to become Apple (Score:2)
From TFA:
"the company is increasing investments in research, including developing robots for manufacturing. In March, the company said it wanted to hire 5,000 people in Taiwan with skills in hardware, automation, and robotics.
On Thursday, Foxconn said it was looking to hire between 2,000 and 3,000 people in order to bolster its research into software. It's looking for software engineers with skills in HTML5 operating systems, HTML5 apps, and cloud computing, the company said.
It intends to design Firefox OS reference models that will cover smartphones, tablets, laptops and TVs.
Taken together, Foxconn is gearing to build what it hopes will be the next iPhone replacement. After all, why settle for a scrap of the profits when you can have it all?
FFOS highly insecure (Score:2)
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Inevitable (Score:2)
It was pretty much inevitable that after being taught how to make world class devices by Apple, Foxconn would eventually question why a bunch of foriegners living off in the States should get a cut of their hard work. This means that Apple's big advantages will be:
1. Hardware patents: How easy it will be for Foxconn to get around these to sell to the US and Europe I'm not sure, since I'm no lawyer. If they have to do their own redesigns or are even completely stymied by overbroad patents they may have a
Windows, iOS, and Android all EOLed. (Score:2)
Don't underestimate the impact of how the news of the NSA-Big American Tech orgy is playing out abroad. The Snowden leak has confirmed the most cynical suspicions of most mainland Chinese, and the pressure in that billion+ market for products unstained by NSA influence will become a major tech driver in the near future. In fact, for most people in the world, the only spying they dislike more than being spied on by their own governments is being spied on by the USA. Unless Microsoft, Google, and Apple can pu
If iPhone5s out, you will buy or wait six (Score:1)