Oculus VR Co-founder Andrew Reisse Killed In Auto Collision 302
ccguy writes with this excerpt from a sad report on CNET: "Oculus Rift co-founder and lead engineer Andrew Reisse was hit in Santa Ana, where he was a resident, by a speeding car being pursued by police." Reisse was killed, says the report, when the car "slammed into two vehicles during the pursuit before hitting Reisse at Flower Street and MacArthur Boulevard."
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Let us be fair. Cars kill too many innocents. Cities should be for the people, not for cars!
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Cars don't kill people, people kill people.
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And when you outlaw outlaws, only outlaws will be outlaws!
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Cars don't kill people, people kill people.
Sure, but no one is out on the streets to kill people with their car, yet people get hit and die, and if you take X * 4000lbs of travelling metal out of the equations of a city, there will be fewer deaths, among other benefits. Motor vehicles should really be reserved for when they're actually needed. Not that it would matter in this case, but you get me.
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And in cities, they typically are reserved for this. "when needed" includes "i need to get somewhere that's not well served by public transportation"
Which in the US unfortunately is pretty much every trip that has an endpoint outside the core of the city....
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Which in the US unfortunately is pretty much every trip that has an endpoint outside the core of the city....
Are you kidding me? Public transit in the US is abysmal even when you're endpoint is within the core of the city.
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Public transit kills their share, plus they are one of the biggest hazards on the road. moving violation
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*your
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If cars were banned people would just leave the cities. Might be a good thing after generations of living like rats.
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If cars were banned people would just leave the cities. Might be a good thing after generations of living like rats.
Actually, the opposite would happen.
If you would ban cars, people would leave their suburbs in droves and return back into the city core.
After all, that's how it was from the very first cities of Mesopotamia (~65k inhabitants for the city of Ur in 2000 BC!) over the cities and city-states of Ancient Egypt and Ancient Greece (~100k inhabitants in 1000-500BC), continuing with Ancient Rome and the first large cities in South America (up to 250k inhabitants) all the way to the metropolises of the industrial Revolution (London, Paris, Berlin; with millions of inhabitants) and finally the mega-cities of today; like Tokio, Shanghai, Singapore, Mexico and New York City with each near or exceeding tens of millions of inhabitants.
As you notice; all the way up to the very recent histories, these cities grew from ~65k people to over 6 million people; all without the help of cars. The jump from then to now (when cars were available) only pushed that up by a factor of 2.
Cars are actually the reason why cities grew slower than before, with the suburbs and "greater metropolitan" areas soaking up most of the excess population that'd otherwise live much closer to the city core where they could make use of public transportation much more easily. You would see nearby cities grow together, until the boundary between them vanishes; like the Ruhrpott [1] (which grew without the presence of cars) which is more like a huge city with multiple city cores.
So tldr; : No cars would mean even bigger cities. Not in terms of density, but sheer diameter and area filled with people.
[1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruhrpott [wikipedia.org]
I AM YOUR DENSITY..... (Score:2)
So tldr; : No cars would mean even bigger cities. Not in terms of density, but sheer diameter and area filled with people.
The parent doesn't spell this out, but denser == better. As density increases, per capita will fall, public transportation dollars give you more bang for the buck.
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You're comparing 4000 years of growth and 100 years of growth as if they're somehow equivalent?
That conclusion doesn't fit the data. Here's U.S. census data from 1800 to 1990 [elderweb.com] of the percentage of the population living in urban vs. rural areas. As you can see, the advent of widespread car ownership does not correlate with a slowdown in urbanization as you're hypothesizing.
What's going on is that in order to support a city, you need to be able to transport goods and resources in and out of the city. Improved transportation facilitated that, and allowed cities to grow bigger than before. If a city needs x amount of food every day, and transportation in the 1800s by horse and wagon can only bring food from a 25 mile radius into the city in a day, then the city's population is capped at whatever food you can grow in a 25 mile radius (this is a simplified explanation - I know some food can survive trips of greater than a day). In the 1900s transportation improved to where you can bring in food from a 250 mile radius, and thus the city's population cap was higher. Current trucking and speed limits pushes that radius out to about 500 miles (though modern refrigeration increases the timeframe to several days), and so our cities can be much larger. The start of the shift to an urban population in the U.S. actually correlates almost exactly with the advent of railroads (1830s-1850s).
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My commute to work in dfw which is about half through the metroplex is 50 miles that's 80 km. I ain't going to bicycle 160 km a day with above 40 degrees Celsius temperature. thats the same distance as between amsterdam and maastricht, i dont belive even the bicycle crazy dutch commute by bike between those cities. i think most europeans just dont understand the massive size of the us continent and cities that were built for cars. Just because lilleput countries like Netherlands has the bicycle infrastructu
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Some people say they can't afford to live so close to work. Personally, I can't afford to live further.
Homes aren't available, or are in fact so expensive that people can't get a down payment. Many of us got no help whatsoever from our parents, who may have been in dire financial straits themselves as both of mine were and probably still are. I've been lucky in terms of commutes but sometimes I've had to be willing to rent a room or what have you because rents are so absurd. The ongoing situation with mortgage foreclosures and banks simply sitting on properties and letting them rot while people go homeless s
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Take it from me: bicycle lanes are confined to larger metro areas, and even then coverage is minor.
Instead, bikers are driving in the road lanes, as is required by law in most places... bikes aren't allowed on sidewalks (where they exist). This often upsets people in cars because there's some biker tooling along at 20 kph in the middle of a single available road lane with a speed limit of 75 kph and thus the biker is restricting all the traffic.
Besides, as another poster pointed out: is it really ideal to b
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It's interesting that your reply and those above all mention how poor public transport is, but none mention lack of bicycle lanes.
That's partly because Americans are (on average) lazy spoiled brats who have never been anywhere to see what the rest of the world is like, and partly because our country is bigger than a postage stamp. Many of our states are bigger than many of your countries. Indeed, all but nine of our fifty states are larger than entire nation of The Netherlands.
You can't really blame USians for not having seen the world, though. Many of us are broke, most of the rest can't get the time off if they do have a job, to the
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a lot of opportunity to travel by bicycle instead of car, but again - many of you just don't want to
I'm one of them. I'm lucky enough to work only a few miles from my house, but not everyone wants to arrive at work drenched in sweat, soaked by rain or snow, or with frostbite. I'll postpone the bike ride until after I get home, on a nice day, when I don't have to maintain a professional appearance at my destination.
These anti-car people have an awfully narrow view of the world, insisting that their favorite niche mode of transportation will work for everyone. The ones in Europe assume that efficient, ac
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Also, when one kid in class chews gum, everyone in the class should get detention.
When a right is abused, it should be taken away too. Because of Westboro Baptist Church, we should repeal the 1st Amendment.
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Cars have a proper time and place. And the proper place is not in the city. Banning cars outright is not the answer, banning them from cities is the right idea though. Replacing them with functional public transportation systems (I still favor PRT, but anything that works is a win) and replacing pavement with trees solves much of what is wrong with a modern city.
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Police were pursuing a vehicle for an unnamed offense which ran several red lights before striking Reisse's vehicle at an intersection. The cynic in me says the offense wasn't extremely grievous if it has thus far gone unnamed: these testosterone-fueled police chases kill far too many innocents.
the offence was fleeing after a firefight.. apparently the perps were on probation too(and had warrants on their heads).
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. . . is one of the perps named "Justin Bieber", by any chance . . . ?
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"Authorities say the incident began when officers saw two vehicles full of people involved in some type of criminal activity in the 1000 block of Rosewood Court Thursday. When officers went to investigate, there was a physical altercation between police and 26-year-old Gerardo Diego Ayala that ended with a fatal officer-involved shooting. Police say a gun was located at the scene.
Investigators allege 21-year-old Victor Sanchez and two other suspects then took off in a Dodge Charger. With Sanchez at the whee
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apparently the perps were on probation too(and had warrants on their heads).
So, in other words the police knew who they were and had their license plates.
Also, I've not seen anything describing "a firefight," the only description I've seen is that a cop shot someone. Not the same thing.
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Because you know, guys with guns fleeing after a firefight and a violent encounter with police are totally white, nice and fluffy, model citizens and police should just wait for them to show up again and not try to prevent them from doing it again. What a nice example of police brutality!
Sometimes, it actually helps to read the source:
Authorities say the incident began when officers saw two vehicles full of people involved in some type of criminal activity in the 1000 block of Rosewood Court Thursday. When officers went to investigate, there was a physical altercation between police and 26-year-old Gerardo Diego Ayala that ended with a fatal officer-involved shooting. Police say a gun was located at the scene.
Source: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=9122999 [go.com]
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Because you know, guys with guns fleeing after a firefight and a violent encounter with police are totally white, nice and fluffy, model citizens
What does being white have to do with anything?
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"White nice and fluffy" refers to kittens.
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For the most part, gang violence only affects gangs and our gun rights, while high-speed chases move that danger to places where people like this engineer can get caught up in it.
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For the most part, gang violence only affects gangs and our gun rights,
A similar thing could be said for police chases. "For the most part police chases only effect the people being chased."
I would still prefer they not chase these kinds of perps.
Tell that to the bystander killed in their next shootout.
There have been many instances where innocent people have been injured or killed by drug gang violence. I seem to remember a child being killed in a crib when a bullet came through the wall during a drive by shooting.
It would be OK if gang violence effected only the gangs but it does not. It terrorizes entire neighborhoods.
The problem with not pursuing fleeing felons is that more will flee if they know they can get away by driving fast enough. If driving fast is a get out of jail free card, more people will do it.
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Yeah, it's not like we could have a helicopter pursue them from a distance or anything. The only thing can do is chase them at dangerously high speeds through crowded areas and risk a violent ending or let them go completely. No middle ground. So we'll just accept that innocent people will die needless, violent death
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1. They do chase from helicopters when available. The patrol cars need to stay in contact with the fleeing vehicle until the helicopter arrives. In this case the accident happened 1.2 miles from the start of the chase. That is less than two minutes into a chase and a helicopter would not have been on scene yet.
2. Felons know about helicopters and try to out run them too.
3. Police do call off chases in certain circumstances. In this case the fleeing suspects had just shot at police and would be a high priority to apprehend..
So we'll just accept that innocent people will die needless, violent deaths for the sake of catching criminals.
The deaths are not needless; they are a byproduct of catching criminals. We also accept similar risks every day just crossing the street. On the other hand are we to just accept that suspects who flee will almost always get away?
The police are in a hard spot. If they pursue and someone dies they are the bad guys. If they don't pursue and the felons kill someone later, they are the bad guys. It is a no win situation and one can't please everyone all the time.
In the nine year period 1994 through 2002 1088 deaths were of people not in the fleeing vehicle, That is 121 deaths per year in the entire United States. Considering the number of high speed pursuits that occur that is a very small number. That may sound harsh but the benefits of apprehending criminals, who have demonstrated their lack of respect for their lives and the lives of others by entering the high speed chase, outweigh the costs.
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Intra gang violence is caused when one gang tries to protect it's territory from another gang. How is that related to whether or not the substance is illegal? Do you see Ford dealers shooting at Chevy dealers?
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The "criminal activity" will probably turn out to be disorderly conduct or some other charge that the cops just make up on the spot. The fact that they are being so vague about what happened is highly suspicious.
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Criminal misconduct that resulted in a firearm-related fatality?
I'm pretty sure you can't just "make up" corpses with gunshot wounds. Not can you "make up" dead people hit by the person running away from the police.
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Because you know, guys with guns fleeing after a firefight and a violent encounter with police are totally white, nice and fluffy, model citizens and police should just wait for them to show up again and not try to prevent them from doing it again. What a nice example of police brutality!
Sometimes, it actually helps to read the source:
Authorities say the incident began when officers saw two vehicles full of people involved in some type of criminal activity in the 1000 block of Rosewood Court Thursday. When officers went to investigate, there was a physical altercation between police and 26-year-old Gerardo Diego Ayala that ended with a fatal officer-involved shooting. Police say a gun was located at the scene.
Source: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=9122999 [go.com]
I think you forget how cops act in the United States. Even for small crimes that are NOT violent in nature, they pull out a full squad, armed to the teeth, kick down doors and terrorize whomever they are going after. Since criminals know the cops will have guns out for non violent crimes, then it only makes sense to start shooting at the cops when you see them for violent crimes? Why? Because the cops are going to be gunning for you. Cops actions for all crimes have made it so criminals really hav
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You just flat out accused them of lying. Then you claimed that you didn't. What?
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Another article gives a bit more information than the one in the summary:
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=9122999 [go.com]
It appears the chase was preceded by a "physical altercation" and a "fatal officer-involved shooting." You can also make an argument for testosterone-fueled fights and shootings but it seems that the police had reason to be chasing these guys and the alleged bad guys had a reason to run. Oh yeah, they were also all gang members on probation.
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Not troll.
There are laws in the books in California about the rules of hot pursuits. If, for example, they are suspected of having done something with a gun or are otherwise already a danger to society, they can chase. If they are illegal immigrants, don't chase. That they didn't name the suspect's crime suggests that they either didn't know what they were being chased for or that it was something which did not warrant such a chase. Either way, giving chase was very likely an inappropriate response by t
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Ah, I just read... it was, in fact, chasing for reasons within the law. The cops were acting properly.
So this is just really, really unfortunate and I hope the criminals get what's coming to them.
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A fatal shooting isn't "deadly violence" enough?
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The cynic in me says the offense wasn't extremely grievous if it has thus far gone unnamed: these testosterone-fueled police chases kill far too many innocents.
The cynic in me says you, like the rest of us, have next to no information about what actually occurred, and are using the event as an excuse to pontificate.
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these testosterone-fueled police chases kill far too many innocents
Be careful what you wish for. The next obvious solution to the fleeing suspect problem is the manned/unmanned drone. A spidey-tracer shot onto an escape car can be auto-tracked by a quad-copter. Such technology already exists and will likely be sold as toys in the next few years (the ad reads: "Film your kid playing soccer...from overhead! Tracks her every move and lets you monitor the action in real-time on your smartphone. You can even zoom in on that winning goal as it happens!")
The world of drones
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Because if they had suspended the chase, the offending vehicle would have slowed down and obeyed all traffic laws thereafter?
Probably — why risk wrecking the vehicle or attracting further attention once the pursuing police have fallen back?
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Probably -- why risk wrecking the vehicle or attracting further attention once the pursuing police have fallen back?
Now I hate cops for the lying nazi fuckholes the vast majority are as much as any sane person, but I still think "possibly" would fit better than "probably".
My brother's car and the other cars at his apartment were broken into and robbed. We interrupted them and almost got shot. They left and we filed a police report. An hour later the police picked us up and drove us ~20 miles to where they (
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Also don't we live in a surveillance state yet? There should be no need to chase when you can just be waiting at their run down shack in the slum.
P.S. I'm not judging the perps. Though by killing an innocent bystander through negligence they are no better than the purported force mongers. I say put em all in the same cell together.
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And if no helicopter?
Where I live seems like every squad on the force lights out in pursuit; no one looks at a map so no exit points blocked. Just a parade of cop cars 'giving chase', until those fleeing crash, run out of gas, or the county mounties block them on a country road.
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So how is life in Hazzard County these days?
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The accident happened 1.2 miles from the start of the chase. That is less than 2 minutes into the chase. The police would have had not not even start a chase for this to not happen.
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"It's so real, it's like it's coming right at me !"
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I don't know enough about the gentleman to do so but it stands to reason he deserves mention on their wiki page, albeit posthumously.
At a glance i see no mention of him and it appears he was rather integral.
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there should be a better way of catching perps, a way that doesnt involve putting the innocent at grave risk.
perhaps we dont chase them withe swarm of squad cars but deploy a swarm of small UAVs to keep an eye on them until a more local unit can pick them up sans the dangerous chase.
there has to be a better way..
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They'll just run like mad to get away UAV or not. If they are in flight mode they'll instinctively run like a wild animal without reason. This is why somebody surrounded will jump out of the car and run hopelessly on foot - the survival instinct is strong in those perps...
Real Solutions:
GPS gun. Shoot the car with a tracking device.
Use the car's built-in blackbox GPS cell modem (high end but often those features become standard)
Cell phone tracking - detect any pings from the phone in the car then track it.
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even better use the cars engine "blackbox" to cut the engines and remote lock the car. heck with a decent flatbed you can have an officer (with safety harness) read them their rights on the way to impound/holding.
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there should be a better way of catching perps, a way that doesnt involve putting the innocent at grave risk.
Sarlac pits.
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Amazing.
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In addition to the fault that lies with the driver that struck him, Reisse is also a victim of these "hero" cops' negligence and incompetence in chasing that suspect in the first place. New York City seems to manage with its no-pursuit policy; what's the Santa Ana Police Department's excuse?
Maybe you should actually do a bit of research before running your mouth (figuratively speaking).
From the ABC:
When officers went to investigate, there was a physical altercation between police and 26-year-old Gerardo Diego Ayala that ended with a fatal officer-involved shooting. Police say a gun was located at the scene.
Investigators allege 21-year-old Victor Sanchez and two other suspects then took off in a Dodge Charger. With Sanchez at the wheel, the Charger slammed into two vehicles during the pursuit before hitting Reisse, police said. ...
Police say all are gang members on probation, with outstanding warrants for their arrest.
Or do you condone that we just let anyone who flees from a fatal firefight by getting into a car just escape because catching them may be a bit risky?
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In addition to the fault that lies with the driver that struck him, Reisse is also a victim of these "hero" cops' negligence and incompetence in chasing that suspect in the first place. New York City seems to manage with its no-pursuit policy; what's the Santa Ana Police Department's excuse?
Maybe you should actually do a bit of research before running your mouth (figuratively speaking).
From the ABC:
When officers went to investigate, there was a physical altercation between police and 26-year-old Gerardo Diego Ayala that ended with a fatal officer-involved shooting. Police say a gun was located at the scene.
Investigators allege 21-year-old Victor Sanchez and two other suspects then took off in a Dodge Charger. With Sanchez at the wheel, the Charger slammed into two vehicles during the pursuit before hitting Reisse, police said. ...
Police say all are gang members on probation, with outstanding warrants for their arrest.
Or do you condone that we just let anyone who flees from a fatal firefight by getting into a car just escape because catching them may be a bit risky?
False dichotomy; I condone coordinating roadblocks — not instigating further carnage, which is exactly the outcome that occurred here.
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False dichotomy; I condone coordinating roadblocks — not instigating further carnage, which is exactly the outcome that occurred here.
I for one condone split-second deployment of roadblocks in unpredictable locations as well.
While we're at it, why didn't the policecars just start flying and use their tractorbeams to lift the car up from the road?
Everybody, especially the police, prefers safe methods over risky methods.
Sadly, there aren't always safe methods available when and where you want them.
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Ok, think of it this way. Lets say instead of jumping into a car, the suspects picked up a pipe bomb with a dead-mans switch. Would the police chase them? No. They'd follow slowly at a safe distance. Now, why wouldn't they chase them with the same vigor as the car chase? There's a big difference between a car chase and a pipe bomb, and it's not really obvious at first. Both chases end with a lethal release of energy... the bomb explodes, the car crashes. No suspect fleeing from a murder scene is going to stop until he crashes after all... The difference is the cars lethal force is uni-directional. The POLICE'S lives are not in danger. When the suspects come to a stop that lethal force is applied in the opposite direction of the police. So the police will not risk their own lives, but if it's the public who's in danger from their actions they're not as concerned.
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So much of what is wrong with police conduct boils down to putting police interests ahead of the interests of the people they are sworn to protect and serve.
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so what we have is "some guys were obviously up to something" , as the crime being investigated. I would like to know exactly what it was. When a group of police charge into a group of gang members who are on probation, there is a high likelihood that the gang members will react in a negative way. They may have been mugging old ladies, or they may have been just sitting around talking. Testosterone takes over on both sides, and a firefight breaks out. Again, did this need to happen? We will only know when t
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We will only know when the original reason that the police decided to engage the group is releases.
Unfortunately we may never know. If it was something trivial you can bet that they will simply make something up so that it sounds justified. The majority of the public will believe the cops over the suspects and those cops are well aware of that.
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In addition to the fault that lies with the driver that struck him, Reisse is also a victim of these "hero" cops' negligence and incompetence in chasing that suspect in the first place. New York City seems to manage with its no-pursuit policy; what's the Santa Ana Police Department's excuse?
Maybe you should actually do a bit of research before running your mouth (figuratively speaking).
From the ABC:
When officers went to investigate, there was a physical altercation between police and 26-year-old Gerardo Diego Ayala that ended with a fatal officer-involved shooting. Police say a gun was located at the scene.
Investigators allege 21-year-old Victor Sanchez and two other suspects then took off in a Dodge Charger. With Sanchez at the wheel, the Charger slammed into two vehicles during the pursuit before hitting Reisse, police said. ...
Police say all are gang members on probation, with outstanding warrants for their arrest.
Or do you condone that we just let anyone who flees from a fatal firefight by getting into a car just escape because catching them may be a bit risky?
Maybe if the cops in america weren't so big on pulling guns for non violent offenders, they wouldn't find so many serious offenders willing to shoot them.
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Oh really?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/two-dead-after-police-car-chase-8554266.html [independent.co.uk]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2012/sep/04/azelle-rodney-shooting-police-chase-video [guardian.co.uk]
As usual some British asshole uses the word "yank" and "Cowboy" to describe something that's happening in his own backyard. This isn't a US problem, it's a police problem. If anything, UK police have an even bigger sense of "We're your mommy and daddy, do what we say" than they do in the US.
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You mean as in being held accountable for the same laws, and having everything they do recorded on camera? Wow, enlightened England is so unique and smart, I wish we would have thought of that. And surely having a violent crime rate more than four times that of the US makes them more than four times better, right?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html [dailymail.co.uk]
Clearly the problem is that America has too many guns.
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Than in the case of good laws and freedom. The bystanders will be able to protect themselves just fine without the police.
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"Victor Sanchez". There's a nice, 'American' name...
Unless your own name is in the vein of "Runs Through", "Onawa" or "Aipaloovik", you can shut up now.
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So not only are you a racist and a white supremacist, but your also an idiot.
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So not only are you a racist and a white supremacist, but your also an idiot.
-1 Tautological.
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A worthless, selfish, non-white piece of shit, who wasn't worth the dirt on your shoes, who shouldn't be IN your country in the first place.
"Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"
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Since when was that equivalent to "drug-dealing, cop-shooting criminal underclass"?
That phrase/song was written by an elitist Marxist, and it was satirical. He was not fond of America soaking up Europe's underclass due to the above mentioned lack of equivalency.
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That phrase/song was written by an elitist Marxist, and it was satirical. He was not fond of America soaking up Europe's underclass due to the above mentioned lack of equivalency.
You're ignorant of history - I am not surprised.
It was written by Emma Lazarus in 1883, and although the first volume of Das Kapital had been published a couple of years before, it hadn't become popular across the Atlantic yet. It's highly doubtful that she ever read it.
And "Marxism" most certainly didn't exist in 1883.
If you are to accuse Emma Lazarus of any political leaning, it would have to be of being right-wing, with opposition to taxes and wanting a state for the Jews.
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So why do you support this? Because you're an ignorant cretin who can't even begin to THINK about the most basic things in the world.
Oh... if only you had actually been aiming for irony.
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Victor Sanchez is a nice American name. Mine is another exemplary example, if I do say so myself. Anonymous Coward, however, sounds British, or possibly French.
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You could at least have the stones to not post as an AC if you're going to say something like that.
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...I don't think the guy who responded to me was the racist dipshit.
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I know a Victor Sanchez. Nice guy. Brilliant mind. American through and through. I had the pleasure of working alongside him for three semesters when we were both assigned as Teaching Assistants to a senior-level, 650 student, Ethics in Engineering course at a major American university. He was working on his PhD in Philosophy at the time, while I was working on my Masters in Computer Science, and we ended up working together quite a bit, since I was the lead TA over the 14 that we had, and he was the guy wh
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They are a deterrent. But should not be the only deterrent or last hope for us all. There are things called U.S. Marshalls. And bounty hunters. etc... We can track people down and arrest them in safer situations.
Sounds more like these cops may have wanted to be a big hero catching the gangers in the middle of something and jumped their guns.