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Hard Drive Revenue About To Take a Double-Digit Dip 269

Lucas123 writes "Ultrathin notebooks, smart phones and SSDs are all putting pressure on the hard drive market, which is set to take an almost 12% revenue loss this year, according to a new report from IHS iSuppli. Hard drive market revenue is set to drop to about $32.7 billion this year, down 11.8% from $37.1 billion last year. At the same time, In what appears to be a grim scenario, the optical disk drive industry is expected to encounter continued challenges this year, and optical drives could eventually be abandoned by PC makers altogether."
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Hard Drive Revenue About To Take a Double-Digit Dip

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  • Re:Less demand (Score:5, Informative)

    by Khyber ( 864651 ) <> on Monday February 04, 2013 @07:42PM (#42791419) Homepage Journal

    "or at least stop going down ignoring the effect of the Taiwanese floods."

    You could at least get the country right. It's Thailand, not Taiwan.

  • by moonwatcher2001 ( 2710261 ) on Monday February 04, 2013 @07:58PM (#42791583)

    In the new iMacs.

  • Re:Less demand (Score:2, Informative)

    by second_coming ( 2014346 ) on Monday February 04, 2013 @08:02PM (#42791643)
    In comparison with what PC hardware used to cost, they are extremely cheap at the moment.

    My first PC in 1992 cost me £1400.
  • Re:Less demand (Score:4, Informative)

    by Jah-Wren Ryel ( 80510 ) on Monday February 04, 2013 @08:33PM (#42791969)

    That is just the price history of one model in one country. In the US, I scooped up eight 3TB external drives off the shelf of Target after the price-gouging started because Target was slow to catch up with the online gougers. They were $99 each. Yes, $99 for a 3TB external drive at a regular brick and mortar department store,, not on sale. The 2TB drives were $79.

  • Re:Less demand (Score:5, Informative)

    by Jah-Wren Ryel ( 80510 ) on Monday February 04, 2013 @08:53PM (#42792179)

    For a hint of where the market for spinning drives is going, look at DLP.

    For anyone else going WTF do projectors and televisions have to do with storage, he's actually talking about DLT - Digital Linear Tape which is the marketing name of the Quantum tape product originally developed by DEC. The competing format is LTO (Linear Tape-Open) which basically killed DLT circa 2005. HP, IBM and eventually even Quantum (after acquiring Seagate's tape division) make LTO products.

  • by k3vlar ( 979024 ) on Monday February 04, 2013 @09:54PM (#42792669)
    Apple doesn't have 3tb hybrid drives... theirs is a software solution. They include a 128gb off-the-shelf(-ish) SSD, and a 3TB platter-based hard drive. Their volume manager software "intelligently" shuffles data around, to optimize access speeds. Not sure how effective it is, but it sure sounds appealing in their advertising material.
  • Re:Less demand (Score:3, Informative)

    by hairyfeet ( 841228 ) <bassbeast1968 AT gmail DOT com> on Tuesday February 05, 2013 @12:34AM (#42793555) Journal

    All I can tell you is what I've seen at the shop and my gamer customers are up to double digits on their SSDs because of all the controller failures.

    And you can take that "warranty" with a BIG ASS pinch of salt, as I have found that damned near NOBODY will claim any of those warranties, why? Because they would have to send the drive back and they have no idea what third world country that busted drive is gonna be sent to or if their data will end up recovered by somebody so they don't risk using the warranty. Hell if my gamer customers would use their warranties they wouldn't have had to buy a drive for the past 3 years but they are afraid their CC numbers will end up in the hands of some hacker in China so they just shitcan 'em.

    Finally as for Seagate? Ask any retailer and we'll be happy to tell you that Seagate drives over 500GB are deep fried fail right now. Go to any place system builders get their parts like Newegg and look up the Seagate 1TB and 2TB drives and you'll see post after post saying things like "Bought 10 drives, 4 DOA, 3 dead in a month, the other three are already iffy less than 3 months". If the rumors are true its the fact Seagate took the shitty ARM controllers from Maxtor and this combined with shitty firmware that gets corrupted when it gets hot leads to a condition where the drive will try to write past the end of the platter and ends up crapping all over itself.

    But I'm sitting here at the shop working on systems 6 days a week and I can tell you that I can't even remember the last time I had a HDD fail on me that I didn't get SOME warning, either Windows "delayed write failure" errors or Windows corruption or rarely SMART errors. Sadly in the last few years (Since Seagate started putting out junk drives) more and more I've seen SMART used NOT to tell when a drive is failing but instead used as a way to cover up bad drives so the OEMs don't have to honor warranties. In fact I was told a couple of months ago right here by a fellow system builder that if you call Seagate trying to get them to honor their warranty they make you run the latest Seatools which just resets the SMART so it'll claim its no longer seeing errors when it is. Honestly it really wouldn't surprise me as I learned quickly enough to avoid anything over 500GB by Seagate, they really are garbage.

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