Boxee TV's Unlimited Cloud-based DVR Holds Users Hostage To Monthly Fees 174
An anonymous reader writes "Boxee has announced the game-changing Boxee TV, offering live streaming TV via two on-board tuners and an industry-first 'No Limit' DVR service that allows users to record as much TV content as they want, and access it from virtually anywhere. The problem is that the unit, which records directly to the cloud, does not allow recording to a local drive, meaning users are stuck with Boxee for as long as they want to access their stored content — potentially hundreds or thousands of hours – to the tune of $14.99 per month until Boxee ups the ante. CEPro.com suggests, 'I suspect Boxee is offering unlimited storage to make users especially beholden to them. The more content you have, the less likely you are to drop the service.'"
Do any of these work with cablecards or SDV? (Score:4, Insightful)
With the exception of Tivo, I've yet to see any of these new DVR's I keep hearing about lately even mention if they work with cablecards or switched digital video. If not, what the hell would I buy one for?!? My cableco and all of the satellite networks encrypt pretty much ALL their channels now (and my cableco uses SDV extensively too). WTF good does a DVR do me if all I can get on it are a handful of over-the-air channels?
And as far as connecting to online services, big fucking deal. My Xbox, TV, and even blu-ray player already do that. And even if this wasn't a standard feature on pretty much everything sold today (pretty sure it will be built into my next refrigerator too), I could buy a Roku box for $60 that will do that.
Can someone please tell me what market these things are aimed at (or if any of them beside Tivo *do* actually support cablecards and SDV)?
Bet it doesn't upload anything (Score:5, Insightful)
Most people have dreadful upload rates anyway ; the asymmetric connections we receive are very much tailored for us to be consumers, not servers.
I'll lay dollars to donuts that it doesn't upload what you record - they just have a master server which records *everything* and your Boxee just sets a row in a database that tells it what you asked it to record. This way they can offer "unlimited" storage - they just retain a single copy of each program that users record, and look to see whether they should offer it to you based on what you "recorded".
No doubt they hope this gets around the legal limitations that have been cropping up recently with other parties offering store-and-forward services.
And this is a problem because... ? (Score:3, Insightful)
How is this different than any other cloud storage provider, with the exception that the DVR content remains "at Boxee" and can't be copied?
This is just like any other subscription service, IMO. Why does everything have to be some damned sinister all the time?
Re:Do any of these work with cablecards or SDV? (Score:2, Insightful)
More than a decade ago, my ReplayTV had a IR transmitter to control my Dish TV box by faking remote control signals. I assume today's DVRs have something similar.
The summary is incomplete (Score:5, Insightful)
It forgets to mention why I'm supposed to be outraged, or upset, or concerned, or... feel anything at all about this.
Ok, so Boxee deletes your recording if you stop paying. So what? Who cares? Don't sign up if that bothers you.
Pay to rent more boxes (Score:4, Insightful)
unless the box from your cable company has multiple outputs for each tuner, you'll be limited to recording a single program at a time.
I think cable companies just want customers to pay to rent more boxes in order to record more simultaneous channels.