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Electronic Retailers In Europe Now Required To Take Back Old Goods 162

Qedward writes with this excerpt about the EU approach to E-waste: "A European Union law that will require all large electronic retailers to take back old equipment came into force yesterday. The new rules are part of a shake-up of the Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment Directive and will gradually be implemented across the EU over the next seven years. Waste electrical and electronic equipment, or WEEE, is one the fastest growing waste streams in the EU, but currently only one-third of electrical and electronic waste is separately collected and appropriately treated. Systematic collection and proper treatment is essential for recycling materials like gold, silver, copper and rare metals in used TVs, laptops and mobile phones."
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Electronic Retailers In Europe Now Required To Take Back Old Goods

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 14, 2012 @09:10AM (#40983405)

    "If manufacturers have to go to the trouble of recycling their goods they might be tempted to make them more reliable"

    How is this logical? State mandated processing of waste will be taken as a cost and passed on to the consumer, like it always is. Why do you believe this legislation will somehow change the fundamentals of economics?

  • by Nick Fel ( 1320709 ) on Tuesday August 14, 2012 @09:11AM (#40983411)
    The difference here is that you won't be required to make a new purchase. Many UK retailers will also dispose of your old stuff free if you buy something, although they're not required to.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 14, 2012 @10:15AM (#40984179)
    He obviously didn't think what you said was clear enough and he chose to add to it. Your bulldog attitude and your lack of detail (also a communication problem) are why his post got +5 and yours stayed at 0. His is the one with the actual information in it, and the more correct opinion (that if we couldn't get the materials from china, we could always make them here). In short, I can understand your frustration, but it's completely misplaced. Finish your thought and you won't have that problem next time.
  • by mcgrew ( 92797 ) * on Tuesday August 14, 2012 @11:04AM (#40984835) Homepage Journal

    No, this is a tax and thus is a net drain on society.

    First, you believe all taxes are drains on society? You can't have government without revenue, and anarchy always leads to monarchy. Some things, like roads and bridges, are best done by governments and paid for by taxes. But this isn't a tax; a tax goes straight to government. This is no more a tax than my city mandating that I hire a private waste disposal company to take my garbage.

    Morality can't be legislated, even if recycling is a good thing. This is nannying the general populous in a very large way

    So, you're against murder, rape, and theft laws? Either I'm completely misunderstanding you, or you're insane. This isn't nannying any more than laws against dumping your oil in the river are. Marijuana laws, prostitution laws, sodomy laws -- victimless crimes -- are nannying. Environmental laws, like laws against other assaults, protect you from me.

    When these companies can no longer compete with the rest of the world, they'll either move out of Europe or seek special favors from the EU politicians to help keep them afloat.

    So, you'ld like London or Brussels to look like Mexico City? This is simply another environmental law. I wish they'd impliment it here in the US, I see it as a good law. As it is here, the onus is on the consumer to recycle the equipment. Your EU law puts the onus on the manufacturer (or possibly seller?). I have junk in my garage I'd love to throw away, but I'd have to cart it ten miles to the nort part of town.

  • by cpu6502 ( 1960974 ) on Tuesday August 14, 2012 @11:38AM (#40985215)

    >>>No, this is a tax and thus is a net drain on society. Morality can't be legislated, even if recycling is a good thing.

    By that logic we shouldn't have filters on car exhausts, stop people from littering, or have centralized sewer disposal in cities. We should just let people live in filfth, like how Paris was circa 1800. (It is said that place was so full of manure and waste that visitors could Smell the city before they could see it.)

    People have basic rights. Among those rights is the right to breathe clean air and drink clean water. That means forbidding people from polluting & violating those basic rights. The government is simply doing its job to stop these violations of individual rights.

    As for "shipping jobs overseas" there would be no advantage. Chinese companies if they want to operate in the EU also must abide by these recycling rules. Else they will be barred from entering & selling to ~500 million citizens.

No problem is so large it can't be fit in somewhere.