Get a Glimpse At the Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix 50
TheNextCorner writes "What software runs on the Raspberry Pi $25 computer? This video shows some of the preparation of the software package, run from a SD card using the open source Fedora OS."
Potential issues, regarding memory/cpu usage (Score:5, Insightful)
I see some potential issues here.
Fedora isn't exactly known for being lightweight in the memory area. Nor are some of the programs they're demonstrating - firefox, etc.
I don't feel like a full blown desktop OS like Fedora is a good fit for the Pi. Maybe one of the more lightweight UIs like Xfce or Lxde, but definitely not Gnome or KDE.
I am looking, and don't see much indication from the article on exactly how stripped down Fedora is in order to work with it. If you take out most things that aren't necessary, recompile the kernel w/o unnecessary stuff (PCMCIA drivers on an ARM board without expansion options?), it could work well. Just don't expect Gnome or KDE. Think more like puppylinux or damnsmalllinux.
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You know we have modules for that these days, right?
Stuff like pcmcia drivers only get loaded when needed.
Also it's not as if the Pi is the first linux ARM board out there. Some of us have been running debian on ARM for years.
Hell, I was able to run GNOME 2 over VNC from my Sheevaplug about 3 years ago. Configurable distros like fedora, debian, ubuntu and the other big names should be fine on Pi.
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I don't feel like a full blown desktop OS like Fedora is a good fit for the Pi. Maybe one of the more lightweight UIs like Xfce or Lxde, but definitely not Gnome or KDE.
There is variety of desktop choices out there... all up to your liking. You can run only a window manager as well. Linux = freedom of choice.
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Using Fedora for this kind of scares me as well, since it's only supported for 2 releases. By the time you finish customizing the distribution to meet your particular application's needs, you probably have six months of OS support left. That's fine for garage tinkerers, but lousy if you're thinking of building a commercial product out of these boards.
Is anyone trying to use an alternate distribution for these boards like an Ubuntu LTS release?
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screw that girly fedora crap huh?
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Maybe someone can port RHEL / CENTOS /Scientific Linux to this?
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To me the Pi would be more useful for apps like XBMC running over a command prompt where much of the work can be o
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I think Raspberry Pi will be great running standalone apps, possibly even a port of Android. It will stink as a desktop whether it has accelerated graphics or not on top.
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I see some potential issues here.
Fedora isn't exactly known for being lightweight in the memory area. Nor are some of the programs they're demonstrating - firefox, etc.
I don't feel like a full blown desktop OS like Fedora is a good fit for the Pi. Maybe one of the more lightweight UIs like Xfce or Lxde, but definitely not Gnome or KDE.
Gnome itself isn't particularly memory-hungry (oh no, a couple MB wasted on PulseAudio and DBUS!), and Firefox is getting much better. I bet it would be usable on the 256 MB version -- at least, with a small number of tabs open.
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Real embedded systems engineers talk about you behind your back if you waste a couple of KB. They will laugh at your face if you waste a couple of MB.
And real embedded systems engineers will not be using this board. So they are quite possibly laughing even more at the tit who can't tell a Micro controller from a computer.
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Fedora has implementations of just about every major desktop / WM, certainly including Xfce and LXDE. It's not GNOME or KDE-only.
Note that this is a Fedora Remix, which is a term with a specific meaning:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix [fedoraproject.org]
Basically a 'remix' is a very liberal conception of 'based on Fedora' - it allows the inclusion of third-party packages, the modification of Fedora packages, and so on. Really, you can do whatever you like and call it a 'Fedora Remix'.
So in this case, they can certainly tw
Not surprised (Score:1)
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Here at Orange forums, we're always happy to hear about your experiences and love of Apples.
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Worse it's not 128/256 for the arm. The memory is split between arm and GPU and the minimum GPU allocation is 32MB with more apparently required for full GPU functionality. So on a model 8 you are talking a maximum of 96MB available for the arm and more likely 64MB
The pi will be great for some things but don't expect to be able to have tens of firefox tabs open like you can on a desktop.
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When you get to the point that the USB mouse and keyboard you have to provide probably cost more than the computer itself, you can't be too particular about how many tabs you can have open on your HD widescreen display...
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I'm not trying to dispute your claims, or belittle you in any way, but... how many people buy a $35 computer and expect to be able to have 10 tabs open in Firefox?
I'm guessing the answer will be "too many", i'm betting the support forums will be hell for quite a while until it's documented just what the two pi models can and can't do
BTW "model 8" in my post should have said "model A", there is no such thing as a "model 8" pi
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Well, you can boot a full Ubuntu ARM image alongside the Android kernel on a rooted (CM7) Nook Color ( 800Mhz base ARMv7, low 200MB or less RAM once Android is running ) and get acceptable ( barely... it is slow, think back to the P133 days or so... ) performance out of it. Some of the slowness is VNC overhead, but most of it is just plain lack of RAM and running 2 kernels.
TLDR: Linux on ARM can run fast enough for day to day crap, just don't expect it to be a speed demon unless it has specs like your avera
Thats old news. F5 F5 F5. (Score:1)
I don't need to read that news here, i already refresh the Raspberry Pi website every 42 minutes.
(and on average, i open Slashdot once every 1337 minutes)
Oh look... (Score:1)
Raspberry Pi made another blog post. If only there was some way to find out about these outside of /. :(
Raspbery Pi? I thought.. (Score:2)
Wait, this wasn't a commercial for GlobalScale GuruPlugs? But but, so much camera time!!
This has huge potential (Score:1)
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Yep - the official name for a [Beowulf] cluster of Raspberries is a Bramble.
Up next (Score:2)
How to make a be Beowulf cluster of Arduinos controlled by a Raspberry Pi!
And can I *buy* one yet? (Score:1)
No? I still can't, and yet Slashdot still spunks an article every few days?
Kindly please shut up about it forever, or until it's available retail without having to complete some sort of Neckbeard Challenge in order to purchase one, whichever comes first.
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Slashdot isn't here for your specific requirements. Raspberry Pi is an interesting project and some people like to read about it. Therefore, why don't you just ignore articles about it, just as other people ignore articles that they are not interested in?
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Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Kindly please shut up about it forever, or until it's available retail
Yes.
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You must be new here. Don't you remember Duke Nukem: Forever? Quite frankly I'm just glad its not another Apple/Google/Microsoft lawsuit bonanza.
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so? Altoids tins are some of the worst boxes to work with
metal and electronics dont mix, so now you gotta half ass some insulation, and its shit metal which is a pain in the ass to even drill a simple hole that does not look like a rat chewed though it