Crab Robot Helps Remove Stomach Cancer 83
redletterdave writes "Singaporean researchers have created a miniature robot with a pincer and a hook that can remove early-stage stomach cancers without leaving any scars. Mounted on an endoscope, it enters the patient's gut through the mouth. It has a pincer to hold cancerous tissues, and a hook that slices them off and coagulates blood to stop bleeding. With the help of a tiny camera attached to the endoscope, the surgeon sees what's inside the gut and controls the robotic arms remotely while sitting in front of a monitor screen. The robot has already helped remove early-stage stomach cancers in five patients in Hong Kong and India, using a fraction of the time normally taken in open and keyhole surgeries that put patients at higher risk of infection and leave behind scars."
Hm... (Score:5, Funny)
Yo, dawg...
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So it's a cancer that removes cancer?
Hahnemann must be laughing in his grave!
At least Singapore is doing something (Score:2)
People around the world get cancer
Doctors around the world charge exorbitant fees to treat cancers, often resulting in cancer patients dying from, you guess it, cancer
At least Singapore is doing something right - they develop a device which can cut off the cancer clusters
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Are you implying that cancer research and treatment causes more cancer?
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Right, like surgery is never an option. They needed a robot to invent it. No one has ever taken cancer cells out before. What an idiot.
Uh, a robot crab that crawls down your throat? (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Uh, a robot crab that crawls down your throat? (Score:4, Informative)
No, the lymphoma would still be present and just metastasize to some other organ/tissue. This might treat the tumor in the stomach, but it would only be a stop gap measure with limited viability in the long haul. There are other recent technologies however that might make a difference, including monoclonal antibodies carrying everything from toxins and markers for the immune system to nano-particles of metals that can convert various EMR into heat and kill tumors and cancer cells. You may want to do a quick look up for animal experimentation for cancer research to see if anyone in your area is conducting research for feline lymphoma.
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Re:Uh, a robot crab that crawls down your throat? (Score:5, Informative)
IAAV. Very sorry to hear about your cat. I can try to offer you some information, but I encourage you to discuss options with your vet.
Lymphoma, one of the most common forms of cancer in cats, cannot generally be cured by excision. By the time of diagnosis it is frequently in multiple organs, and it spreads easily by lymphatic ducts and blood vessels. Lymphoma has many different forms, and these vary in prognosis, so it may be worth your while to pursue further diagnostics to determine which type is being faced (B-cell, T-cell, acute, chronic, large cell, small cell, granular cell, virus associated, etc.).
Chemotherapy is available for cats, and many vets have access to basic protocols for lymphoma or can refer you to a veterinary oncologist (cancer specialist).
Please understand that the goals for veterinary chemotherapy are generally much different than in human medicine. Human medicine usually aims for a complete cure, and that can mean putting the patient through a very stressful - sometimes debilitating - regimen of potent drugs. By contrast, veterinary medicine considers "good time" to be a worthy goal if cure is unlikely. For example: if the highest doses of treatment return a 5% survival rate but a poor quality of life under treatment, this is unlikely to be recommended by your vet. (S)he will more likely recommend a regimen that prolongs your pet's life without severely decreasing its quality. We try to keep pets as happy/comfortable as we can for as long as we can.
Also, even in cases where cancer-killing chemotherapy is likely to be unrewarding, anti-inflammatory and steroid drugs can provide relief from discomfort and sometimes slow progression. They also tend to be inexpensive compared to the more aggressive protocols.
I wish you the best of luck.
The original question of whether or not this would work on cats: a small enough version could work on cats, but a veterinarian would have to have access to it. It will be a while before this is widespread in the human market, let alone in the veterinary world. It is essentially an (immense!) improvement on the non-robotic biopsy tools already in use in endoscopy, with a lovely cautery feature built in.
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I'm really glad to hear that. Sounds like he will be getting some of that "good time" with you. Best of luck.
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I'll give 30 karma to the first person who can find an article with a picture of the robot. Ok, maybe I can't give away karma, but you get my drift.
From now on, I declare that all slashdot articles referring to robotic crustaceans MUST include either a picture or video of the robot!
Re:Uh, a robot crab that crawls down your throat? (Score:5, Informative)
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No, this:
http://cheapandchinese.blogspot.com/2010/10/facehugger-pumpkin.html [blogspot.com]
Pics or it didn't happen (Score:3, Insightful)
Here is a picture of the device (Score:5, Informative)
The Globe and Mail is also running this story and they included a picture of the device [theglobeandmail.com], just like every other site that ran the Reuters story. But thank you slashdot for continuing to link to shitty IBT stories, because I had never seen a crab before.
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Apparently that answers it - it's a crab-like set of claws, not a robo-crab - lame.
That is not a robot (Score:5, Interesting)
That is not a robot. It is a tele-operated tool, related to a waldo (A waldo mimics one's movements precisely - See Heinlein's story Waldo). Call it a waldo, just to keep it simple. For example, a powered suit worn by a person is a very complex waldo.
A robot is not completely operated by a human. It can be partially so; the Mars rovers are robots that do what they are told, but interpret the commands with their own programming, as they are 45 light minutes away and cannot be controlled directly.
A robot has it's own "brain". It independently operates in its environment by its own perception and judgement.
A claw on a stick is not a robot. Words are important. These things have names, and confusing the terminology muddles communication.
Re:That is not a robot (Score:4, Insightful)
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Indeed. I guess when I hear "robot", I think of something with at least partly autonomous operation. RC planes aren't robots. Deep sea ROVs aren't robots. The mars landers are the crossover point, designed to operate semi-autonomously, here's what to do, you know how to do it, and here's what to do if you have a problem. (which may involve us taking back more direct control)
I think even
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That's not exactly true. The amount of intelligence built into remote medical technology today is fairly astounding. There are surgical robots that can be shipped to Africa for a world class surgeon to operate half a world away. That includes multiple tool sets so multiple surgeons can operate simultaneously, microscopic stereo video, enhancements that allow a surgeons tool manipulation to be smooth and precise despite the lag due to satellite communications.
There are layers of heuristics, predictive algori
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Droid is right out.
I thank you for the image of a carnivorous bunny rabbit that just popped into my head. ("The Castle Arrrggghhh???")
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Damn. So this is not the 'droid I'm looking for?
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Yeah, but bomb disposal robots aren't really robots. They're glorified remote control cars with cameras. They are very much waldos. But, then, this is one of those common usage arguments. If enough people say it is then yadda yadda yadda.
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How about this for the distinguishing line?: Robots have a motor. Waldos are powered by humans.
I can't think of any counterexamples off the top of my head.
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You're right, "Waldos" is a bad term. I meant the devices that bear the name in real life - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_manipulator [wikipedia.org] - not the proper Heinlein sort.
The distinction I'm trying to draw is not automation, but connection. Robots are independently powered, vs remote manipulators which are direct mechanical linkages and move solely by the force input of the human.
By my distinction, R/C toys are robots.
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http://www.amazon.com/Unger-92134-36-Inch-Pick-Up-Aluminum/dp/B0000V0AGS
would be a waldo. It still wouldn't differentiate between an autonomous robot like Data from a Mars rover.
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Wally! ;-)
Remote control tools (Score:5, Informative)
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So, if I make a device that handles various tasks by itself, but doesn't do certain things until it gives me information and receives my meta-instructions, how is that not a robot?
If this little stomach crab robot can swim, cling, communicate, and cauterize, but needs an MD to know what cancer looks like, it's too advanced to be considered a waldo. Wikipedia refers to these as telerobotics, as in an intermediate capability between robotics (fully autonomous) and telemanipulators (aka waldos).
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Not jumping in to the semantics pool, but this device is attached to the endoscope and has pincers and cautery. It doesn't go wandering off on its own. Doc directs endoscope with camera, sees tumor, and - with the joystick - extends a go-go-gadget cancer-clipper which snips and cauterizes the site and (ideally) retrieves the excised portion for biopsy.
Sounds like it's most consistent with what you are describing as telemanipulation. This thing has no ability to react to input other than what the driver
Oh (Score:2, Funny)
So that's where crabby patties come from.
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I read Crap robot .... (Score:2, Informative)
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I wondered what the hell a good one could do...
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nobody has yet to mention here that the term cancer is related to the crab (constellation) as the first cancer reported removed from a person was remarked to look "like a crab".
Except for the first comment...
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Endoscope pincers (Score:3)
Modern endoscopes used for colonoscopy and gastroscopy already have small pincers at the end. These can cut off, and retrieve, cancer polyps in the colon -- polyps being the pre-stage to colon cancer. However, these polyps are tiny. It sounds to me like the new device described in the article is mostly like a larger variation of these pincers.
Too bad that this "crab" device was not available seven months ago when I went through major surgery to remove a small tumour from my colon. It would have made a huge difference to me. The operation took six hours, I had a painful week at the hospital (partly because the epidural failed at one point) and over a month's absence from work. I am left with a huge scar down the entirety of my abdomen.
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a small tumour from my colon
The operation took six hours
These two don't match up. Care to explain? A total colectomy usually only takes about two hours.
Anyway, this device is essentially an upgraded version of the standard endoscopic instruments and as such isn't really a huge change - though I'm sure it's nice. They say "cancers" but I'm pretty sure that they mean the gastric equivalent of colon polyps.
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All the while.... (Score:1)
.... causing hundreds or thousands of cancer cells to be released into the patient's bloodstream from each blob of cancer tissue that it slices away from the stomach lining. But then most surgical techniques that don't additionally remove a fair amount of the non-cancerous surrounding tissue as well as the cancer tissue, tend to also release a bunch of cancer cells into the bloodstream where they can wander around to find a new spot to set up camp.
Better hope the followup radiation and/or chemo finishes of
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Dr. Zoidberg approves (Score:2)
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Craaaabbb robots (Score:2)
Craaabbbb robots
Craaabbbb robots
Taste like crab,
operate like robot.
"The Crabs"? (Score:2)
Can it cure "the crabs", or will that cause Recursionitus*?
* which also causes Recursionitus**
** which also causes Recursionitus***
*** which also causes Recursionitus*
Did anyone else... (Score:3)
Did anyone else read that as 'crap robot'? Guys?
Good to see (Score:1)
Although this would not have saved her (she had traditional surgery to have most of her stomach removed), one thing I noticed through the entire journey was that the research was geared towards more common cancers, like breast and colon. I'm happy to see that treatments of other cancers still being pursued.
I've played this game before :) (Score:1)
I'm fairly certain this kind of thing was seen in "The microscopic mission" and similar idea with the film "Innerspace"
That said, this is rather cool. Pretty soon you'll see video-gamer types paired with doctors to do stuff like this, where the gamer gets everything setup and the doctor does the surgical work.
Need a surgeon? (Score:2)
Oh noes! (Score:1)
SCIENCE is FAILING us! [slashdot.org] Oh, wait...
Exit, Stage Left! (Score:1)
<involuntary visual of it leaving like a chest-burster>
Um, NO WAY (Score:1)
(sigh) (Score:2)
The link in the summary only shows a real crab photo. Clearly this device is not a real crab. Anyone else curious to know what the ACTUAL device looks like can see in this other article, first google search link.
http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/02/experts-build-crab-like-robot-to-remove-stomach-cancer.html [dawn.com]
So in other words (Score:1)
I know someone... (Score:2)
I know someone who has late stage stomach cancer, and this technique could have made a difference had it been available earlier.... he is now sitting in hospital, and I feel for his family. I wish they could maybe make this information and techniques available quicker to other doctors. Why the hell did google ever stop its medical movement??? At least maybe when facebook gets involved, they wont stop until it is reality.
Who will help bring about the information real time to doctors first???