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HP Reviving the $99 Touch Pad On December 11th 121

Frankie70 writes "Starting Sunday, December 11th at 6:00 p.m. Central time, 16GB and 32GB Touchpads will be available on HP's ebay store. A $79 accessory bundle will also be available, which includes a case, charging dock and wireless keyboard. The caveat with this deal is that these are refurbished TouchPads rather than the brand new models sold during the first firesale."
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HP Reviving the $99 Touch Pad On December 11th

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  • by Rogue Haggis Landing ( 1230830 ) on Thursday December 08, 2011 @01:00PM (#38304484)

    Considering the multi-billion dollar loss WebOS has been so far, merely selling a few more next year at a slightly higher price doesn't seem like a winning strategy to me.

    There's a bit of a false assumption here. The money that HP has lost on WebOS is a sunk cost. It's gone and it's not coming back, no matter what happens. HP should be thinking entirely of the future at this point. Can WebOS generate a worthwhile profit from today onward? If so, they should hold on to it, even if it never makes back the initial investment.

    People often don't think this way. If I lose a ton of money on an asset I'm likely to get rid of it, even if it stands to be mildly profitable in the future. HP shouldn't be thinking that way. (I should point out that I have no idea if they actuall are or not.)

    That said, I'd love an open source WebOS, if only to keep Google honest.

  • by rickb928 ( 945187 ) on Thursday December 08, 2011 @01:19PM (#38304702) Homepage Journal

    For obvious reasons:

    - The TP is rooted, sort of [], so the OS is no longer an issue. If Cyanogen [] is working on it, do not bet against them. You will lose. And there is another team working on this.

    - For the money, even stock, it's cool.

    - Even a 90-day warranty should give you time to find out if it's a lemon.

    - There will be a support community out there.

    Now HP is right to toss these refurbs out for several reasons:

    - Most of these came back from people too lazy or stupid to follow instructions and resolve their issue.

    - If HP can't repair defective units, by whatever means, then all you TP owners have tablets that are just as dead as Elvis, it's only a matter of time. I'm trusting these were either repaired or reloaded.

    - No point in keeping backstock of refurbs beyond the warranty needs.

    - HP could be deciding that the end of the TP debacle is the day they have NO TPs available. Period. And the sooner the better.

    So stop yer whinin' and get in line.

    Oh, and all you crybabies out there with your sad tales of trying to buy one back when - I've heard all the complaints. All par for the course. Bad things happen during these closeouts, and resellers are often either morons or thieves. Caveat Emptor. Same as it ever was.

  • Re:Er, no. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by RightSaidFred99 ( 874576 ) on Thursday December 08, 2011 @01:22PM (#38304750)

    Your rambling is nonsensical. A tablet is indeed a toy for simple use in limited situations, I agree. It's worth $99 to many people. It's _not_ worth $500+, I agree with you there and you're an idiot if you spend $500 on a iPod XL.

    As for software, you are clueless. Of course you can sell software for a loss. If I spend $50k on developers to make a piece of software then sell it for a penny, expecting to sell 10000 copies, I have sold the software at a loss. It's really not complicated to understand.

  • US Only (Score:4, Insightful)

    by tlhIngan ( 30335 ) <> on Thursday December 08, 2011 @01:37PM (#38305026)

    Perhaps an important point - the HP eBay store only ships within the US via UPS. So even if all you wanted was the accessory kit, if you're outside the US, you're SOL.

    Those outside the US will just have to bid on them after arbitrage.

    And the site's open to HP employees on the 11th. General public is on Monday ,the 12th.

    Only good part is it's 2 per customer.

  • Re:Er, no. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 08, 2011 @01:51PM (#38305224)

    How fucking cheap are you? And how little do you value your time?

    You spent many many hours trying to buy a product that was discounted to a few tens or (just about) hundreds of dollars cheaper than its competitors. Why not just suck up the money, value your time more, and just buy one on eBay or a similar model at full price?


  • Re:Er, no. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by hedwards ( 940851 ) on Thursday December 08, 2011 @02:12PM (#38305516)

    That's something people forget about. At some point it starts to make more sense to just pull some overtime or get a second job than it does to run around trying to save a few bucks.

  • by jo_ham ( 604554 ) <joham999@ g m a> on Thursday December 08, 2011 @05:58PM (#38308702)

    So, your master plan is to make up the profit in volume of sales?

    So, the volume price is $99, the manufacturing cost *per TouchPad* is $318 ($318-Bill-of-Materials.aspx).

    So, HP "make" -$219 per TouchPad. I can see why they need volume sales to make up the profit... ;)

    I'm not sure where the myth that these sorts of devices cost buttons to make and are just sold at crazy high "all gravy" margins? Oh wait, it's what they think Apple are doing with the iPad. Even the really good Android competitors to the iPad are only $100 or so less - so still in the $400 range.

    Selling them at $99 does not make for a sound business plan unless you plan to make up the money by some other channel (like having your games console as a loss leader, for example). A $219 loss per tablet is a pretty steep loss leader though, by anyone's measure.

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