DIY 80GB iPod Touch 110
An anonymous reader writes "Having recently acquired an iPod Touch, DeviceGuru blogger Rick Lehrbaum soon found himself with an 80GB iPod paperweight knocking around and collecting dust. Then it hit him: why not use a Pogoplug as an iPod server, effectively filling his nifty new iPod Touch with 80GB of music whenever he has WiFi access? The how-to article at DeviceGuru.com explains how a Pogoplug and iPod Touch combined with free web services at pogoplug.com combine to form the 'PogoPod System.' It also introduces the Pogoplug's new UPnP support, and briefly reviews a couple of UPnP media-rendering iPhone and iPod Touch apps."
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Can some one please shitcan this plugoplug article?
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No, that would mean the headline is related to the summary.
Re:Slashvertisement (Score:2)
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And all it gets you is 16 more GB than the biggest version of the new few hundred dollar device? Only when it has internet access? And this genius gets on the front page?
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You might be right. If the thing was a "paperweight" like TFA claims, and now it works there must be some kind of magic going on. Have monster started selling unobtanium tipped USB cables with philosphers' stone insulation?
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Quite funny: A post on their developer forum describing how to effectively disable their features [pogoplugged.com] and then allow you to do whatever you want with the device. Does that shitcan it enough for you?
Why? (Score:1)
So let me get this straight... (Score:5, Insightful)
This article discusses... connecting an iPod to a thing that supports connecting iPods to it?
In other words... it's *not* about making an 80gb iPod touch?
In other news: Man listens to FM radio channel using FM Radio!
Re:So let me get this straight... (Score:4, Insightful)
I usually berate people who say it, but this is some new kind of low for this place.
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OTOH, the Pogoplug looks like a nice, cheap device to mess around with an ARM-based device, cheaper than an iPod Touch or iPad.
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Kuro Box is more expensive. I like the Sheeva plug, I'm not usre if it's made anymore.
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It is, and they've made a new and improved version called the GuruPlug with pretty awesome connectivity.
Re:So let me get this straight... (Score:5, Informative)
The basic one is still made:
http://www.newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=5 [newit.co.uk] Cheap, USB+Ethernet
Updated version are coming RealSoonNow, including one with HDMI
http://www.newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=11 [newit.co.uk] there's a version with eSATA
http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-33-guruplug-display.aspx [globalscal...logies.com]
And Marvell announced a v.3 at CES last Jan, no real product announced yet.
All of those support Debian, Ubuntu is on the way out since the new Ubuntu requires some instruction set extension that are not available on the old plugs.
There's a very active community at http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php [plugcomputer.org]
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Sure, but it's using the Apple iFM iP*d/iPhone attachment!
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Next up: Man makes SUV effectively 1000 mpg by rolling downhill!
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Anymore, somebody actually listening to FM radio is news.
How convenient. (Score:3, Insightful)
The very day that Apple announces that only their newest phones will support multitasking why here we have on /. an article pimping how having an otherwise useless iDevice is a good thing. I guess we know what folks are supposed to do with their old iPhones now.
Shame.
This place died long ago. I miss it.
I won't mourn it though.
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Indeed. I was going to say that maybe they're just scraping the barrel for the obligitary daily Apple story, but we already have the Iphone story as you note, and there's the Ipad story. I guess now we get daily stories for each of Apple products.
Imagine, the Slashdot headlines of 2015:
* Boring DIY hacks for your old iPad.
* Blog spots Apple ordering new parts, rumours of revolutionary magical new device that will change your life!
* Announcement of a pre-announcement that Apple will soon announce a minor upd
What's the point? (Score:2)
I mean, isn't the whole point of having an iPod or whatever so you can listen to music wherever you are? I mean, at that point you could just use pandora or any media server (Mediatomb, playon, tversity, etc, etc), or any of the myriad online streaming radio stations.
Sure, this is cool. But not it's not like the guy hacked a 80GB SSD drive into an old iPod.
Nice commercial review (Score:2, Insightful)
Just what i wanted when i visited /.
Title correction: (Score:5, Insightful)
"DIY installing an app on an iPod Touch"
The guy's just plugging an external hard drive in to a minimalist Linux system (the early review versions are clearly SheevaPlug units with a sticker attached and some custom software) and accessing it from an iPod Touch. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo.
The post title implies something actually interesting like a way to hack more than the X GB of storage space Apple currently offers on to the iPod Touch platform, not "here's how to access a UPnP share from a WiFi connected handheld.
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Actually, my reading of the DIY title took it to an even further extreme-- building an iPod Touch from parts available on the market for significantly less...
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Actually, my reading of the DIY title took it to an even further extreme-- building an iPod Touch from parts available on the market for significantly less...
A similar thought was what made me click in, too.
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The saddest part maybe is that it was an iPod Classic, not even a Touch version, which is simply used as external USB hard drive.
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No, he USED a classic to make an "80GB Touch."[1] Pogoplug+Classic * iPod Touch+PogoApp.
[1] As long as he stays within the range of his wifi network. Otherwise it reverts back to a 16GB Touch (or whatever, I didn't pay that much attention to the article.)
wow that wasn't misleading at all (Score:4, Insightful)
Where's the hack? Reads more like a commercial to me.
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It is, and a bad one, with Telexy Network Commander I can VPN from my mobile phone via unlimited data plan back to my home network and mount a windows network share and then stream my music over that.
So 6.6TB mobile music device, please advertise bigger :P
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Where's the hack? Reads more like a commercial to me.
It's an iHack. Like a hack, but better more polished and easy for ordinary people to do.
It's an innovative game changing method for safely hacking Apple's products in a magical way that will change the way we hack for ever.
What.. You expected wires and soldering irons and unofficial code and stuff? Eww.. He used a non Apple product.. What more do you want.
Do you know how hard it is to open an iProduct? It could get SCRATCHED!!!!
And you know how the master gets when people try to do stuff they are not allo..
Why does it exist? (Score:2, Interesting)
Pogoplug is not opensource! (Score:5, Interesting)
Hi, my name is Feverdream and I like to hack small devices to make them easier to use by the blind - like myself - since they are often cheaper than full fledged computer systems that have parts we non-sighted don't usually need or use. I recently forced the pogoplug guys to release some GPL code they tried to hide from the community; You can now see part of the the xce module source on the website, but we need your help getting the rest!
They still lock the system down, and the Adobe Apollo based server on the device that they use for their service does things under the hood that would make RMS blush. They did not even want to release the xce module source despite the fact that it is GPL, and I had to fight with them to release the part they did.. problem is its not the source that they released on the device, and they wont give that out. You can tell by comparing the timestamps in the tarball they released that the files were edited.
Not to mention, thy lock you out of updating the kernel... and that makes it very hard to add accessibility for the blind or otherwise disabled since this is not activated by default.
We need your help. Boycott them,. get the message out they they violate not only the terms of the GPL by refusing to release unmodified or edited source of the code they have already released to the public, but the spirit of it. Get the rest of the data on the http://www.plugapps.com/ forums!
Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! (Score:4, Informative)
Hey there.
Two things:
1st) Can you please not post this as AC? I believe it's important enough as to use a username
2nd) Have you contacted the FSF / gpl-violations.org? You really should.
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No, but it makes the words magically more visible to people who view this site at a higher threshold than '0' or otherwise block ACs.
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Yes.
It enables me to see, with a fair amount of certainty, which replies in the thread actually belong to the original poster.
Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! (Score:4, Informative)
The bastards. Ok, two things:
1st: Don't buy that kind of devices. Get some generic ARM-based box off china. It's what this devices use anyway. You can find some nice 600mhz ARM + 128MB of RAM all-in-one boards that come with an SDK and all of the source plus many example apps for 30 dollars (FOB Shenzhen, China). There are even full embedded systems (with very similar specs) complete with case, power supply, remote, wifi card, etc. Ready to plug and get hacking for under 60 dollars (Again, price is FOB Shenzhen). Lots of fun at a great price. You can find retailers for all of this devices in most places around the world.
Another great hacking tool are the atom-based boards. There are all in one mini-atx mobos with dual core Atom processors (1.6ghz) for 80 dollars. Try the Intel or Foxconn models, they are very powerful and inexpensive.
If you are still mad about the GPL violators, try mailing Richard at rms@gnu.org, he reads and answers every mail, and he'll surely be more than glad to help you out and speak on your behalf, or direct you to the right person.
BTW: The account thing wasn't just to be a smartass. Many people just disregards most ACs posts, and it's impossible to keep in touch or get replies from ACs anyway. Also, this place has some very very elaborate trolls, you never, ever know ;)
Happy Hacking!
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Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! (Score:4, Informative)
You can find some nice 600mhz ARM + 128MB of RAM all-in-one boards that come with an SDK and all of the source plus many example apps for 30 dollars (FOB Shenzhen, China). There are even full embedded systems (with very similar specs) complete with case, power supply, remote, wifi card, etc. Ready to plug and get hacking for under 60 dollars (Again, price is FOB Shenzhen). Lots of fun at a great price. You can find retailers for all of this devices in most places around the world.
Hi, can you post some links to someone who retails these devices? sounds interesting.
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Again, I have no idea. I import them directly from China, and I'm not in the US, so I don't know what retailers you can find there.
But let me tell you, there are dozens of places in Shenzhen that produce this kind of boards. All of those prices are FOB China. Google for it, I'm sure there are importers and retailers of this stuff in the US. Most DVR systems are based on this board, specially the cheapest ones. Some AVTech systems that retail for 200 dollars are based on exactly the same boards I buy for 30.
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Damn! I don't know why that got posted as AC, I didn't click on post anonymously. Anyway, that was me :)
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Links? I'd like to get my hands on an ARM system for $60!
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As I said, that's FOB China. You have to add import costs to that.
I Don't know what retailers might have that hardware in the US. I don't live in the US, and I don't buy from retailers, I import directly.
But google for it, this devices are out there
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Yeah, I'll just hop on www.china.com and order that stuff!
Could you at least give us a starting point? Something that covers a little less area than "Somewhere in China"?
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maybe
http://eyesun.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008830526458/pdtl/UMPC/1029943866/UMPC.htm [globalsources.com]
might help there must be better links with prices
Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! (Score:4, Informative)
So give Pogo the finger and get a Sheevaplug. Exact same hardware, different plastic shell.
Or even better: get a Guruplug, the latest revision that comes with wireless, Gigabit ethernet, and eSATA.
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iPod Touch + MPD + WiFi (Score:3, Informative)
Well, the "article" is a bit of disappointment, however I've been in the same situation and here is how I approach the problem (way more music then will fit on my 8GB touch or smartphone): I have a linux server (Dell Studio Hybrid running Gentoo) that I always leave on which has a copy of my music repository. On it I run Music Player Daemon (MPD) with Icecast as one of the outputs. I connect to MPD via a simple web client (there are several: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients [wikia.com]) from my touch, build my playlist, then point Safari to my Icecast server's IP/port which opens the media player and I can listen to MPD anywhere I have WiFi. I'm not sure what the minimum bandwidth required is, but even my smartphones (previously Samsung Saga on WM 6.1, now Droid Eris running 2.1) work with this system. For the record I used TCPMP on WM 6.1 (Windows Media Player mobile worked too, but that app is horrible) and now use I use A Online Radio for the Droid (oddly enough, the built in media player on Android doesn't do streams and it's touch to find an Android streaming client that let's you specify any address/port you want).
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sounds horribly complicated
have you tried ampache? works great as a drop in solution if you have a working LAMP stack (sounds like you do).
Though not sure how well it would work on a phone given its a full web-ui.
to be honest you'll prob get nicer interface/functionality running itunes in a VM and then pointing itunes on your touch/iphone to it, I know people who swear by this functionality (but they also live in unlimited 3G data places lol). Not sure about the NAT/firewall port specifics but I'm sure the
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yeah i'll have to check it out. when I finally cave and get an iphone lol.
the itunes to iphone seamless library interface is the main plus, if iampache can come close its a winner since my linux server is far too pitiful for a VM for itunes (its an old thinkpad).
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Do it without the $130 device (Score:4, Interesting)
www.orb.com
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UN-Plug the Plug... (Score:2, Funny)
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Yes, apparently it is; when I bought mine about 8 months ago it came in 8GB, 16GB and 32GB flavours; now it comes in 8GB, 32GB and 64GB [apple.com] flavours. Sucks a little, the 32GB one is now only about £20 more than I paid for the 16GB one. Ain't tech great?
Wow, this has got nothing on my 1.5TB PDA (Score:1)
not impressed (Score:2)
Post a story when someone uses an iPod to prevent evil hackers from breaking into a bank, then I'll be impressed.
To stretch the scope ... (Score:2)
Post a story when someone uses an iPod to break into a bank, then I'll be impressed!
Slow WiFi (Score:3, Funny)
I imagine this isn't as useful when your workplace's new 802.11n WiFi throttles access to the Internet to a paltry 20 KB/s (ssh SOCKS proxy-tunnel to LAN brings it up only to 90 KB/s after first day). What I need is a stealth waterproof solar-powered WiFi repeater to bring the fast food restaurant's WiFi from across the street into the building.
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What I need is a stealth waterproof solar-powered WiFi repeater
I had one, but thanks to its stealth mode, I can't find it anymore :-(
Multiple songs? (Score:2)
As far as I can tell you still can't listen to more than one song at a time--you've still got to navigate, click on a song, navigate more, click on another, etc. So you can't, say, easily listen to a whole album. (Correct me if I'm wrong but the two UPnP apps look very limited.) If that's all you're going to do, you may as well save your money and use this [pixelcity.com] (share through Apache) or this [google.com] (install a custom (but open-source) service.)
Can use standard web server (Score:2)
Someone even put up instructions about it. http://www.pixelcity.com/iphone-streaming-music/ [pixelcity.com]
From the well-thats-not-very-exciting dept. (Score:3, Funny)
Has Wifi. More space than a Nomad. Still lame... [slashdot.org]
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Thanks, Slashdot! (Score:1)
This is news for nerds? (Score:2)
"Having recently acquired an iPod Touch, DeviceGuru blogger Rick Lehrbaum soon found himself with an 80GB iPod paperweight knocking around and collecting dust. Then it hit him: Why not earn some cash by getting a lame article published on /.!"
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Simplify Media (Score:1)
There's already an app that does the same thing with your (Windows/Mac/Linux) PC called Simplify Media [simplifymedia.com] that this seems to. Essentially, it scans your music directory (or iTunes/Rhythmbox library if you want) on each computer the client runs, and lets you share them (directly through iTunes/Rhythmbox's own shared library front-end) on any other computer the client runs on. It also lets you add up to 30 "friends" to share with as well. Photos can also be shared (using iPhoto's events/faces/locations features
Are you kidding me? (Score:2)
Didn't even read the article. Simplify Media has been doing this for years. Many of us (here) with iPod Touches/iPhones know how to stream music locally. This is an obvious advertisement.
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Sorry; forgot to mention that you can listen to your music ANYWHERE with Simplify or other custom solutions.
STOP REPLYING (Score:1, Insightful)
STOP REPLYING - the best way to let slashdot know that this hardly is "news".
Never link your website to Twitter! (Score:2)
Pogoplug ad, nothing to see here, lets move on... (Score:2)
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