Revisiting DIY HERF Guns 425
An anonymous reader writes "HERF guns have previously been regarded as nothing more than an interesting project with uses ranging from at-home experiments to malicious pranks. But the deployment of 'morally gray' forms of high-tech crowd control, such as the recent use of a sound cannon against domestic protesters, along with the likely future unleashing of the pain gun on more than just 'foreign terrorists,' creates a new purpose for these relatively easily assembled devices. Could HERF guns become a new method to counter the silencing of protesters via these sophisticated attacks, or is there any other way to prevent such efficient, convenient crowd dispersal?"
From the last Slashdot article and FYI: (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Screw "nonviolent" resistance... (Score:2, Informative)
Uh, you do know that the Kent State shootings [wikipedia.org] was where National Guard troops shot non-violent war protestors and not the other way around, right?
History of the song. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Simple: arrest people making them (Score:5, Informative)
I don't know Stephen, that depends. Are they using those AP bullets against drug lords wearing body armor or are they spraying windshields on the highway after having an unmarked police car pull an illegal maneuver to give them an excuse?
This isn't using molotov's in a riot "against the man", its a bigass radio antenna that breaks high tech equipment that's used to torture people sometimes to death in the streets after a few undercover cops threw rocks out of a crowd.
The police and military are supposed to have an advantage, they're not supposed to use that advantage butcher american citizens just because its more convenient. Go read up on "Excited Delirium".
Re:Simple: arrest people making them (Score:2, Informative)
The police are not "supposed" to have an unfair advantage, WTF ever gave you that idea? The same armor police wear is available to anyone that wants to buy it. The same weapons the police use are available to anyone that wants to buy them (with some exceptions). However, the systems and weapons to defeat the police are also available to anyone that wants them. (or can build them).
Ultimately the people will take the power back. The only question is how much and whoes blood will be spilt in the process.
HERF in action (videos) (Score:3, Informative)
Video 2 [youtube.com]
Re:From the last Slashdot article and FYI: (Score:3, Informative)
but sometimes a person will pull into the left lane and either maintain the same speed as the right lane (two-lane scenario, for simplification), or so minimally faster that it will take several miles before they pass the car on their right.
Just so you know, this is illegal in Kansas [kake.com], as of July 1st. They will be issuing warnings for a year, and then start ticketing.
Re:Simple: arrest people making them (Score:2, Informative)
The fact that the police have guns, doesn't make push-button control of crowds any less scary.
Re:is there any other way to prevent crowd dispers (Score:2, Informative)
In short: Yes, there are anti-democratic forces at play, and yet we are still our own worst enemies.
Yes. And the worst offender is Rupert Murdoch.
Look at the lengths this man will go to in order to have control of the media, he took American citizenship so he could buy a TV station in the country. Now, you have Fox News.
To Mr Murdoch it is about power. His control over media - on a near-global scale - makes politicians his playthings. If you are suspicious of government, then perhaps you should not be ignoring the man behind the curtain. Nobody fucking elected him.
Re:From the last Slashdot article and FYI: (Score:4, Informative)
I looked up what he's talking about if anyone's curious.
Apparently tempered safety glass is made to explode into tiny fragments when broken. A small shard of a very hard material will cut the glass and shatter the entire window. The classic thing to use is a piece of porcelain from the capacitor in a spark plug. There are youtube videos of people throwing that little hunk of ceramic at tempered glass and it shatters.
Everything is dual-use. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:From the last Slashdot article and FYI: (Score:3, Informative)
>>Has that ever really happened anywhere?
Yep, happened to a friend of mine back in February. Guy cut in front of him, slammed on his brakes, and then sued him for a million dollars. Pain and suffering, you know? Plenty of witnesses to the event, but his auto insurance company settled with the guy for 100k or so. He was PISSED at his insurance company for caving in to what was pretty blatantly insurance fraud. He wanted to go to court over it.