FOIA Documents Detail iPods Overheating, Catching Fire 314
suraj.sun passes along a report from a Seattle TV station that has been investigating reports of Apple iPods overheating and bursting into flames. "An exclusive KIRO 7 Investigation reveals an alarming number of Apple brand iPod MP3 players have suddenly burst into flames and smoke, injuring people and damaging property. It's an investigation that Apple has apparently been trying to keep out of the public eye. It took more than 7 months for KIRO 7 Consumer Investigator Amy Clancy to get her hands on documents concerning Apple's iPods from the Consumer Product Safety Commission because Apple's lawyers filed exemption after exemption. In the end, the CPSC released more than 800 pages which reveal, for the very first time, a comprehensive look that shows, on a number of occasions, iPods have suddenly burst into flames, started to smoke, and even burned their owners. ... Apple refused to comment, and refused to answer all of the other questions [the reporter] has been asking of the company since November."
ALARMING! (Score:5, Informative)
Summary:
> Investigation reveals an alarming number of Apple brand iPod MP3 players have suddenly burst into flames and smoke
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Article:
>When the documents finally arrived more than seven months later, they included more than 800 pages of information, including 15 burn and fire-related incidents blamed by iPod owners on their iPods.
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> After conducting its own preliminary investigation, the federal agency determined that, with more than 175 million iPods sold, âoethe number of incidents is extremely small in relation to the number of products produced, making the risk of injury very low.â
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I'm ALARMED!
Another non-story (Score:4, Informative)
According to the article (you DID read the article, didn't you?) there has been no serious injuries. The article details how, after 7 months of investigation, the reporter has found bloggers blogging about overheating iPods, but the number reported in the article is about ... 35. That's out of the 175 million devices out there...
Hardly a product flaw. Perhaps some rare individual and isolated parts are flawed, but this isn't a systemic problem.
The Consumer Product Safety Commission conducted its own preliminary investigation and determined that, with more than 175 million iPods sold, âoethe number of incidents is extremely small in relation to the number of products produced, making the risk of injury very low.â
Nothing to see here, move along. kdawson, queue the apple haters. Oh, and start posting real stories or find another job.
News Flash ... Lithium Ion Batteries Can 'Asplode (Score:5, Informative)
The article in question does not cite any raw data. Useless.
Nokia had a similar problem with a subset of their BL-5C batteries. Nokia sold 300 million of these batteries, of which 46 million were defective. Of those, only 100 resulted in thermal failure, and all but a handful resulted only in the destruction of the device itself.
By comparison, Apple has sold about 175 million iPods. No doubt, only a subset of those contain a defective battery which could result in destructive failure. This isn't Apple being lazy, or even worthy of the publicity this news outlet is trying to generate. At worse, the chances of YOUR iPod bursting into flames is about 1:100,000
If you want to be cautious anyhow, follow these guidelines for protecting your iPod and any other device with a lithium ion battery:
1. Never leave it in your car or any other environment which would reach temperatures in excess of 120 degrees.
2. When charging a lithium ion device, do so while you are awake and in the room. If you charge overnight, do so on a non-flammable surface.
3. Buy a leather case for your cell phone. Not only does it protect the device, it also provides a thermal barrier should the battery fail while it is on your person.
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Re:The downside of high capacity batteries. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Repeat after me (Score:5, Informative)
Removable batteries are an even greater fire risk. They can be shorted out, people try to recharge them incorrectly (even if not rechargeable), they throw them away improperly, and a large portion of your device needs an interconnect system with exposed terminals that adds size, weight, complexity and a perfect place for shorts and poor contacts.
No, the reason the iPod has no removable battery is to make it small - the fact that you have to buy a new one when the battery is fully dead is just gravy. (Incidentally you can return your iPod to apple for the cost of a "new battery" and they'll send you an identical iPod back to you - would this programme exist if their sole aim was to "force an upgrade cycle", maybe it would, but generally the product cycle penalises those who are too lazy to send their iPod out for a new battery rather than just buying a new one, in the same way that companies make money from rebates because people are too lazy to mail them off).
A removable battery is no more or less safe than an inbuilt one, it just makes your device larger and has the potential for abuse, by fitting an inferior 3rd party battery that very well might be dangerous (note that not all 3rd party batteries are dangerous - look at companies like PAG providing batteries for pro Sony hardware - you can buy those, or you can buy official Sony ones. Where it gets dicey is the unbranded ones that are 20% of the cost which might be great, but might be pretty deadly).
Re:Company policy (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Another non-story (Score:3, Informative)
Real story? 35/175,000,000ths of the systems were reported as overheating and that was without a technical evaluation to determine if the device did indeed overheat and a root cause analysis...and you accuse ME of trolling? Your attempt to make a mountain out of a molehill qualifies as trolling, but outlining the gist of the article is hardly such. There's nothing to cover up 'cause there's no systemic problem.
Please at least attempt to understand the issue before replying, kthxbye.
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Lithium Polymer (Score:3, Informative)
Critical Reading Skills... (Score:3, Informative)
From the description of the cases involving simple overheating causing surface burns, a common thread seems to be that the device designed to be clipped to clothing while you work out was not properly sealed against moisture seeping into the case. This is what happens when you develop and manufacture electronics devices in a country with little quality control and the tendency to bully a scapegoat into suicide when mistakes are discovered by the public.
Standardized testing of an electronic device should include HALT (Highly Accelerated Lifecycle Testing), which subjects the device to a wide range of temperature and humidity, as well as vigorous shaking and dropping. It may be acceptable to release a product that stops working under those conditions, but not one that is likely to cause damage to surrounding objects if some moisture makes it into the case.
How quickly people seem to forget Apple's history with banning people from the forums and removing posts when being critical of an apple product or discussing problems/bugs with them, and does no one remember the silky smooth white iPod earbuds from China with the lead contaminated sheathings?
How many iPods did not burn the user but simply stopped working mysteriously?
Catastrophic failure is usually a minor failure that escalates for some reason, such as improper sealing allowing moisture to seep in which slightly changes the capacitance of a charging circuit, which over time causes the battery to be stressed bit by bit until it either fails safely, by no longer taking a charge, or depleting rapidly, or fails unsafely, by discharging very rapidly causing a cell to overheat and explode?
Hijack (Score:4, Informative)