Dell Adamo Review — Macho Outside, Sissy Inside 144
Odelia Lee writes with a full review of Dell's new Adamo slimtop over at Gizmodo. While it may have an sleek exterior there are definite gaps (both literal and figurative) in their engineering. "The Adamo is both a compliment and an insult to Dell engineering. It's possibly the most beautiful computer Dell has ever manufactured, but I'm not sure that Dell has caught up to competitors in either aesthetics or power. There have been lots of qualitative Adamo reviews out there, but we got the first of the units that will actually ship to customers, so it's time for real benchmarks. As it happens, performance is really what's at stake here."
Hey Mike... (Score:5, Funny)
Why don't you just wind it down and give the money back to your shareholders? Or stick to servers.
It gets worse: See the commercial. (Score:5, Funny)
Commercial badly needed Ricardo Montalban (Score:3, Funny)
That commercial would have been perfect, if only Ricardo Montalban [youtube.com] were still with us to tout the "Rich Corinthian Leather" of the Adamo (and hey, they DO talk about leather around 2:17 in the Adamo video).
It could be in a wrist pad...
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"With edge-to-edge glass, adamo was designed to elicit desire and redefine the image of power." Holy shit. That's a bit like Ferrari building a Segway clone and shipping it with a ten-page treatise on why it still counts as a penis extension.
Re:Hey Mike... (Score:5, Informative)
The parent was referring to when Mr. Dell said that that's what he would do if he was in charge of Apple a few years ago. Since then, they have skyrocketed...
Gaming laptop? (Score:1)
Article summary nails it (Score:5, Insightful)
I think the article summary nails it.
Bigger, heavier, louder (which, to me, is half the point of something like the air), integrated battery (just like the air), bad performance, higher price... what's the point?
It's nice looking, but it sounds like an Air is a much better all around computer. The only thing in it's favor is the higher max RAM (Apple will probably change that) and the integrated 3G option (I'd expect Apple to change that too). Gizmodo is also right that nVidia's next chipset for netbooks will outperform this, at 1/5th the price. It has eSata too though, which is a plus.
Nice try Dell. It is certainly very nice visually. But you need some substance to go with that, or at least a cheaper price point.
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The only thing in it's favor is the higher max RAM (Apple will probably change that) and the integrated 3G option (I'd expect Apple to change that too).
Why?
I can almost see a case being made for 3 GB of RAM instead of 2 (for folks to run a VM with Windows, perhaps), but if you want higher performing graphics, you're going to see either an increase in weight or a decrease in battery life, neither of which is acceptable in that form factor product.
I suspect that Dell didn't get the memo, which is why theirs is heavier and louder.
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There's no point limiting memory to 3GB. You either have two accessible slots for 2x2GB, or one accessible slot for 2GB.
Sure, you could solder in another 1GB, but in that case, why not ship with 2GB out of the box and leave room for another 2GB in a user-accessible slot? The price difference between 1GB and 2GB is minimal, and you don't get the embarrassment of watching Vista crawl on the base configuration.
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I think part of the point of the Air is that making memory user installable costs weight and size. They went to extremes to minimize both (further extremes that Dell, apparently), and in the process fixed the RAM configuration.
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I can almost see a case being made for 3 GB of RAM instead of 2 (for folks to run a VM with Windows, perhaps), but if you want higher performing graphics, you're going to see either an increase in weight or a decrease in battery life, neither of which is acceptable in that form factor product.
I suspect that Dell didn't get the memo, which is why theirs is heavier and louder.
Dell has a tradition of making the IT equivalent of industrial machinery. Any company with that sort of tradition will find that making elegant lightweight designs is a tougher proposition than it seems to be at first glance... Lamborghini notwithstanding.
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Bigger, heavier, louder (which, to me, is half the point of something like the air), integrated battery (just like the air), bad performance, higher price... what's the point?
And despite this, the anti-Mac fanatics will continue to claim that a Mac is always more expensive than a PC with comparable specs.
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No-one (sane) says that Macs are the MOST expensive PCs with comparable specs.
Being in the most expensive quartile is still pretty notable, even if they are beaten to the top by some other overpriced gadgetry.
People buy Macs because they like Macs and don't mind paying the premium for something they like. That doesn't mean that there isn't a premium...
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Re:Article summary nails it (Score:4, Insightful)
how unfairly some fictional 'anti-Mac fanatics' will respond
Fictional? GMAFB. Read any /. story that can possibly, in any way, be interpreted as having something to do with Apple, and you'll see plenty of this fanaticism on display.
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Read any /. story that can possibly, in any way, be interpreted as having something to do with Apple, and you'll see plenty of this fanaticism on display.
Really? I believe his point was that he just did, and that he didn't.
Re:Article summary nails it (Score:5, Interesting)
It's not a notebook for you and me, who want the best bang for the buck. It's aimed at mid-to-upper level managers and sales staff, who need something that feels sturdy and looks classy, yet is capable of non-intensive tasks like displaying powerpoint presentations, send an e-mail saying you'll be late for tee-off, and watch pr0n^Wlight entertainment from the hotel room.
How it performs is irrelevant -- the intended user group wouldn't be able to take advantage of the performance anyhow.
I predict it's going to sell well to its target group -- especially in the numerous companies where Dell is one of a few approved manufacturers to choose from, and an Apple wouldn't be paid for by the company even if it danced the jitterbug and wiped your arse.
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It's getting more and more 'useful' to have something slightly better especially in the laptop division. There is such a huge power draw (~100W/processor) on desktop systems under full load that laptops can't afford anymore to have similar processors anymore. "3D cards" as we used to call them are also no longer an option.
However newer applications like HD movies and effects on the desktop have become standard and what can be done on a desktop is also expected of a laptop. Even presentations (Keynote, Power
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Anyone thinking about an Adamo should buy a refurbished HP EliteBook instead. I'm pretty anti-HP but I got this 8730w as a replacement for my total lemon nw9440 and so far it has been pretty damned sweet. At this point I am running Intepid with Compiz and Emerald, using avant-window-navigator-trunk, and google gadgets. I have XP (This machine came with XP Pro and Vista Business licenses) installed in a VirtualBox VM and it works pretty good (though in general not as good as vmware - but the last time I inst
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Bigger, heavier, louder (which, to me, is half the point of something like the air), integrated battery (just like the air), bad performance, higher price... what's the point?
But, but, but... this can't be true! Lord Ballmer informed us that Apple computers are $500 more than the equivalent competition! So a computer from a budget manufacturer like Dell should be faster, lighter, and quieter than the MacBook Air for less money!
This story must be a LIE!!
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Oh Boy! That's the one feature that's kept me from getting an Air. You can't believe how many times I've had the need to do that while on the road!
Seriously, some of the points you bring up have merit, but when you go over the top it dilutes what you're saying.
Adamo from Dell (Score:5, Funny)
Dell Adamo [adamobydell.com], for when you want to be pretentious, but you can't afford Apple.
And yes, that website is hideous Flashturbation. I dare you to "encounter," "admire," "discover," or "commit" anything useful about the Adamo on the page. Apple gets credit here for blending marketing and tech specs. Where is the audience for Adamo? They already bought Apple or they're scratching their heads trying to find out how much RAM and CPU it has.
Re:Adamo from Dell (Score:5, Funny)
Dell Adamo [adamobydell.com], for when you want to be pretentious, but you can't afford Apple.
Did you miss the part where it's more expensive than an Air?
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Owning a MBA requires one to spend $100/day at Starbucks, $1300/month at Armani and $90/month with AT&T.
Adamo, in comparison, only requires $8/day at Starbucks, $50/month at GAP and nothing with AT&T.
Re:Adamo from Dell (Score:5, Informative)
Dell Adamo, for when you want to be pretentious, but you can't afford Apple.
Umm...
Dell Adamo:
Apple MacBook Air:
I'm no math whiz, but...
Re:Adamo from Dell (Score:5, Informative)
Correction, that last MacBook Air should be the 1.86GHz model.
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2.13 GHz- $1849.00
Nothing special there with the Adamo, we can all find better products than a Dell, at a better price. You just need to look, and work out the arm muscles
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Why are you even bothering comparing a 17 or 18" gaming hunk of junk with a 13" ultra-thin?
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Like I said, you can find them anywhere. The reason I chose the "gaming hunk of junk" is that it is far more functional. You just need to work on the upper body strength a bit
Oh and AC, yes they are warm, but I don't put them on my lap. I've never had one overheat though, and this is far from my first Toshiba.
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The Toshiba Qosmio is a far better buy than the Adamo as well.
Wow, that has got to be the ugliest laptop I have ever seen. "New eye-popping design" -- it popped my eyes, I'll give em that, now how do I stop the bleeding?
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I solved that by just looking at the screen instead of the case.
MegaHertz myth? (Score:2)
The Adam-O machines are clearly using the low powered versions optimised for battery life.
If this gives you an extra 3/4hr battery life(*), some would count that as a feature over raw performance.
(*) I just made that figure up but you get the idea.
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... but you are not a computer wizard either.
...I seem to be a reading comprehension wizard, at least compared to most Slashdotters. They covered both the battery and heating issues in TFA.
"Even with our 128GB SSD configuration, the Adamo is rarely a silent machine. The fan, incidentally hidden behind some of the most stylish vents I've ever seen, runs almost nonstop during basic operation."
...and a battery life about the same as the MacBook Air from the same reviewers:
And I was able to play back a high-def WMV for just over half Dell's claim. Total Run Time: 2 hours, 40 minutes
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Yay for expanding my vocabulary! (Score:5, Funny)
Thank you, Gizmonic, for introducing me to yet another word I expect never to use in polite company. :)
Cheers,
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I dare you to "encounter," "admire," "discover," or "commit" anything useful about the Adamo on the page.
They're mixing two different lingo-sets. 'Commit' is a word for business people, much like paradigm, synergy, or innovate.
The word they REALLY want is 'acquire.' That will appeal much more to the hipster, pay-too-much-money crowd who believes that neither looks nor performance actually matter, but how 'deck' the person selling it is, and how he 'relates' to them. People who believe you can experience love with a laptop. And that's all that matters.
There must be someone in the world like that. Maybe
Apples and Oranges? (Score:3, Interesting)
The processor speed of the Macbook Air was a lot higher than the Adamo. The Adamo easily outpaced the Lenovo with the same processor speed.
Of course processor speed isn't everything.
The video card is the key here (or so the reviewers would have your believe).
In the real world that this device was meant to operate in, I suspect Joe User would never notice the difference in video performance since its adequate for YouTube.
Re:Apples and Oranges? (Score:5, Informative)
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Subtle. I like it.
I didn't see any mention of integrated EvDO. eSATA. I liked the little spin that implies "you can get an SSD with the Adamo, but it'll cost you", neglecting the fact that the Adamo's SSD retails for around $450, whereas the difference in price is $200 + $48 for the MBA's 120GB SATA drive (unless of
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The only spin is the one you are implying. Perhaps you missed this part:
You get an SSD but you also get a slower bus and a slower processor. If some people want that trade off, they are free to chose the Adamo.
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That would be with a 1.6Ghz CPU â" faster than the fastest Adamo.
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Incidentally, attempting to buy a laptop to run games on is the stupidest waste of money ever.
The vast majority of gamers are casual gamers and most games run just fine on laptops. That's why "The Sims" franchise is the best selling game of all time.
You'll never get one as good as a desktop machine, your battery performance will suck, and you can't upgrade the video card or DVD to blueray or add another hard drive to hold your ISOs or whatever.
Most people don't need as good of specs as a high end desktop to play games. Battery performance will suck compared to the battery in your desktop? Does that make any sense? Most people never upgrade components of their desktops either.
And who the hell plays games in their lap on that little keyboard?
I do at LAN parties.
If you're setting it down and plugging in a keyboard and mouse, you don't need a 'laptop'!
Umm, some of us perform more than one task with our computers. You know, like we use it to get work
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The vast majority of gamers are casual gamers and most games run just fine on laptops. That's why "The Sims" franchise is the best selling game of all time.
No, they aren't. The vast majority of game players are casual. 'Gamer' is a specific term referring to people who build high end machines with the intent of getting the most graphic and CPU performance from them in order to play the newest games.
The dictionary disagrees with you:
gamer - noun
a person who plays a game or games, typically a participant in a computer or role-playing game. (esp. in sports) a person known for consistently making a strong effort.
The term you seem to have wanted is usually "extreme gamer".
And, no, gamers do not play on laptop keyboards. They play on fucking custom keyboards with rows of extra buttons macro'd to hotkeys.
Please. I used to play Warcraft3 and Diablo2 at LAN parties on a laptop all the time and I used the regular old keyboard with the regular old F keys mapped to my macros.
No. That's not what I meant by 'gamer', which is a specific self-identified subset of computer owners, and that's not what I meant by 'gamer laptop', which are absurdly expensive laptops designed to be purchased by that subset.
I see the misunderstanding. I still think you're being presumptuous. Many people have different needs and wants than you and are better off choosing a laptop for their gaming needs, even if they do it professionally.
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So what they have made is a U$2000 netbook?
Now I have an Acer Aspire one, and I keep thinking, this only needs a keyboard that doesnt flex and an aluminium case and it would be about the same as a macbook Air, just smaller and with more USB ports. The air will still kick it's ass for graphics and general speed becuase it had better graphics and a proper SSD HDD, but Ther Acer only costs NZ$500, and an Air costs NZ$3000
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No, but price for price is fair â" 1.6Ghz MacBook Air against 1.2Ghz Adamo, or 1.8Ghz MacBook air against 1.4Ghz Adamo.
The MacBook comes out cheeper, lighter, quieter, and more powerful on both comparisons.
I've already said so (Score:1)
The Adam0 is a bore.
Great design? It's squarer than the Air, sure. Great? Well, it is cleaner than anything I've EVER seen from Dell.
Light? It's a full pound heavier than the Air -- now that's a fatty!
Can you make a commercial begging someone to take your money and buy a light laptop and NOT buy the Air?
Nope! -- At $2600 for an Adama that does not out perform the top end Air at 2,499.00 (starting at 1799.00 btw).
I still don't know why ppl drool for Netbooks either ... at least these things have full size ke
Re:I've already said so (Score:4, Insightful)
A lot of us like netbooks precisely because they don't have full size keyboards or screens.
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Great design? It's squarer than the Air, sure. Great? Well, it is cleaner than anything I've EVER seen from Dell.
I'll admit the design isn't too bad (I still think it's ugly, but that's my own opinion).
It was a bit cheeky of Dell, though, to parrot at the beginning of the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUJqWc6seYk [youtube.com]Adamo promotional video (if you haven't seen that video, watch it: it's hilariously bad, even worse than the MS Songsmith one) how dedicated Dell is to industrial design. This has a particular resonance with me, because I distinctly remember certain Optiplexes which hid the front ports behind a silly snap-loc
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If 6 or 7 pounds is a problem (and the Dell is only 4), the laptop isn't the only sissy.
Re:I've already said so (Score:4, Insightful)
"An ounce in the morning is a pound in the evening." - Old hiking adage.
If you're paying good money for laptop that focuses on portability weight is rather important.
At first, you think the people that cut down the handles of their toothbrush to save weight are rather nuts. Then you find out that all their crazy methods of shaving off weight from individual items actually ends up to a noticeable reduction in overall weight.
The same principles applies to more work related traveling. If you can shave off a pound here, a few ounces there, eventually you're commuting with a noticeably lighter load.
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Yet this brings to mind a fat guy riding an extremely fancy bike.
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I still don't know why ppl drool for Netbooks either
They're still a bit large and unwieldy, but they're at the point where you can stick'em in a coat pocket or trivially fit them into a fairly small backpack. And large though my coat pockets may be, there's simply no way I'll fit a full size keyboard in it.
Personally I don't get why people have ordinary laptops; they have nowhere near the screen space or performance to act as a decent replacement for a desktop, nor are they portable enough to do much but lu
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and then state the explicit reason they do
Ah, my bad, I should have contrasted that with having a few decent workplaces and using VPN and/or USB sticks to move things between them. And a palmtop/netbook for the portable needs.
And yes, I know that for some cases they actually make sense; yours sounds like one of them. Still, I find myself surrounded with a lot of people who don't actually seem to use it that way. At best they lug it around as a portable presentation unit and the only reason they take it home
Power? How about battery... (Score:2)
Lots of these reviews for portables talk about power. I couldn't care less about power. I have a three-year-old Pentium M with 512 MB of RAM (shared with the graphics!) that was OVER-powered. All I used was the browser, some console apps, and occasionally a media player. I replaced the laptop, but only because the hinges were shot. I didn't even use half of the memory on the thing.
No, for me battery life is more important than power. "The biggest mistake Dell made with this system, by far, was the inclusion
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Power matters. The intel atom chokes when simply browsing some ajax-enabled web pages in firefox, while more powerful CPUs don't blink.
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Power matters. The intel atom chokes when simply browsing some ajax-enabled web pages in firefox, while more powerful CPUs don't blink.
I'd like to know which atom you are using.
The Atom N270 in my EEE 901 has no problem at all with heavy AJAX sites, like the whole google 'suite' (gmail, maps, calendar, igoogle?). The only times that thing chokes is on heavy flash games, or java applets. Then again, I haven't seen a java applet yet that doesn't make a browser choke, be it a desktop or mobile core2duo/quad, the atom or any other random piece of hardware.
Now what would be interesting if they made such a ultraflat laptop with the 'new' dualcor
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Try something like Ikariam. That chokes on the Atom.
Dell really should have called it Adama (Score:5, Funny)
Who is the target market for this product? (Score:1)
I guess if you need a MBA form-factor that runs Windows this is your thing. I'd much prefer to run Windows virtually in the MBA though.
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My 2 year old X61 Thinkpad is lighter, faster, (Score:2, Interesting)
and cheaper. 1.2Ghz dual core processor? Wtf? My 2 year old 3lb thinkpad has a 1.8Ghz dual core processor, and I bought it new for half what an Adamo costs 2 years ago. If an Adamo was a cheaper alternative to a thinkpad I could understand, but it's more expensive too! Why would anyone in their right mind buy a Adamo instead of thinkpad?
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Did you miss the bit where you could fit two adamos/airs inside your think pad. The think pad is a thick 14" laptop, these are two *ultra* thin, very light 13" laptops. Where by ultra thin, we mean average 0.46" thick, compared to your thinkpad's average 1.175". And by light, we mean 3lb, not your thinkpad's 5.1lb.
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I hate to break it to you: The ThinkPad X61 is only ~3.11lbs.
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Oh fail, I read T61, but then, you could fit *three* MacBook airs inside the thicknss of the X61.
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Yes, but I think you have to take Price vs. Reward: The X61 is a very attractive offering if you look at the price point of it.
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Sure, but again, we're discussing *ultra-thin* laptops. If you want to look at not ultra-thin, then you can go to the MacBook, not the Air, or to the XPS m1330, not the Adamo. Both of those will offer you a much more compelling price/power ratio, but a much less compelling price/thinness ratio.
Bottom line â" we're not discussing the class of laptop you're talking about. No matter how shiny it is, it's not part of this discussion.
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Isn't the X61 12", and more like 4 pounds? You're quite right about the thickness though.
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Yeah, considering there was an x61t deal a few weeks ago for $650, yeah, it is a cheaper deal.
See, what Dell have created here (Score:2)
Dell have created, with the Adamo, what is effectively a pocket calculator for the price you're getting. Christ, I've seen machines on sale for less than £400 (around $800 at the time) which are more powerful than this thing.
In no way is it the most beautiful machine Dell's ever made. The black (sorry, Onyx) colour isn't too bad, but both types have a Quasimodo hunch-back, which seems to serve no purpose other than to store the bits they couldn't fit in to the rest of the machine because they we
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This might be a taste issue but I think the backside of the Adamo's screen simply looks bad. Like it was randomly thrown together.
Resolution? (Score:1)
Sorry, but I'm not paying twice what I spent on a (quite nice) Inspiron only to get a laptop with less vertical pixels.
Why not 1440x800? That's almost the same aspect ratio. Or 1366x800.
It *does* look rather gorgeous, though.
Air Battery Life? (Score:1)
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What's the Air rated at for battery life, and then how does it actually do?
Apple claims 4.5 hours and in reality, under heavy use it delivers about 2.5 hours according to reviewers. So, close enough to the Adamo to not matter.
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Anyone Else Bothered ... (Score:2, Insightful)
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Depends on if it's a locked configuration. The ATT SIM is the standard GSM (presuming it operates on all int'l frequencies). You can drop in a SIM from just about anywhere in the world. Since this is a US product, and AT&T probably helped out with the advert budget, it's hyped as such. Plus, in the US, AT&T is one of the most ubiquitous providers.
Off topic: why GHz? (Score:5, Insightful)
This is a genuine question, not a troll. I'm really interested in the answer.
What is the meaning of comparing the GHz as a major factor in evaluation of a laptop? I'm a bioinformatician. I do most of my work on an X40 Thinkpad. For small jobs, this is more than sufficient. For major calculations, one or two cores will not suffice, no matter what the GHz.
From my experience, for most of the tasks, a difference of even 10% in the speed is not an issue, and anyway, there are dozens of other factors that influence both, the real computing speed and the reactivity of the interface. To me, things like memory, disk access, networking, cacheing, usage pattern and last but not least, what software solution you have picked for your task seem to be more influencial on the overall perfomance than a difference between 1.6 or 1.86 GHz. Yet in most comparisons (e.g. several posts here on Slashdot), when talking of a laptop, first two things to mention are the price tag and the GHz.
Question: am I missing something? What is so important about the GHz of the processor to use it as a proxy for "performance"? Is it just historical, or maybe because it is easy to quantify, like in the case of megapixels in digital cameras (which are nowadays mostly meaningless, but easy to compare)?
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Question: am I missing something? What is so important about the GHz of the processor to use it as a proxy for "performance"? Is it just historical, or maybe because it is easy to quantify, like in the case of megapixels in digital cameras (which are nowadays mostly meaningless, but easy to compare)?
Two things.
1) It's all about the epeen. If you've dropped $2K you want to know you've got the best.
2) It's how long it will last you. That 1.4Ghz processor is going to feel dated that much sooner.
That's it. It's really not much different than driving a car with 300hp vs 350hp. Are you going to get from one end of town to the other any faster, or even faster than 135hp Civic? Most likely not.
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All things being equal (same chipset, same RAM, same CPU line), more GHz == more speed. Also note that you're using extremely niche applications. Most people are doing things like editing their home movies, where a 10% faster CPU results in a 10% faster conversion process. The slower CPU will still get the job done in a reasonable amount of time, but if spending a few bucks up front means less waiting over the life of the computer, then it might be a pretty reasonable upgrade.
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You mean -- text writing, preparing presentations, web browsing for fun and profit, watching movies, processing photos from my camera are all "extremely niche applications"? Yet I don't think that CPU makes such a difference for these. Most of the time my laptop runs at 600MHz anyways, and jerks up to its nominal 1.3 only rarely.
What do you think has more impact on the performance: using Photoshop for basic photo operations (where the faster, more lightweight programs like ACDSee or Picasa would also do), o
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Real shame. (Score:2)
Don't let this overpriced Edsel turn you off to their entire line.
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It also runs OSX like a champ (yes, even integrated 3G modem and bluetooth).
I would do ubuntu except I can't get the friggin wvdial config down to work with the integrated 3G card, and network manager spasms out (something to do with a nonstandard AT string from my research) and after wasting a weekend on it I decided to waste a weekend on hackintosh instead of the possibility of finding a fix :)
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A torques bit?!? (Score:2)
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I would hate to buy a laptop only to find you need a fucking TORQUES bit to open it!
Yeah, it's not like you can just buy them for $3.00 at Sears.
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Dude, its not like thats some exotic fastener that takes an act of corporate espionage to get the tools for. Ace is the place.
And for the record, it's Torx, not torques.
the show-stopper for me: (Score:2)
I can't remove the battery.
When working on laptops, popping the battery is one of the first steps before you start to dig into the guts. Is there a physical disconnect switch on this Dell? What if the battery is bad as shipped? Who swaps the battery out if/when needed, and does that void the warranty?
Re:Which is it? Cheap, Fast, or Pretty? (Score:5, Insightful)
Your entire post would make sense if only one thing were true. If this PC weren't MORE expensive than the closest Mac counterpart, you could excuse poor build quality, under-powered processor, and heftiness as merely being good value for dollar. But that's not true. It's MORE EXPENSIVE than the Air. A slim laptop that's more pricey than the already overpriced status symbol that is the Macbook Air, but provides significantly less value? Somebody failed, and failed hard.
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The Adamo is coming into a hard market segment:
If people want an ultralight laptop, like people pointed out, they can grab a Macbook Air. IIRC, you can just zero out the Air's disk and install Vista without needing Boot Camp if one felt like it. Or, one can keep OS X and use Boot Camp to make Windows XP work (which would be lighter on system resources).
If people wanted a Windows machine (where it is expressly noted that the machine is not a Mac) for professional use, Thinkpads are the black limousine of t
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I didn't know Alabama had a large Latino population, much less a large population of Latinos on drugs.
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