Hulu Again Removed From Boxee and Again Added Back 220
An anonymous reader writes "In a mouse and cat game, Hulu the popular online content provider of shows, movies, and more has blocked Boxee yet again from accessing the Hulu content from the Boxee application. Just as Boxee added RSS feeds to include Hulu content, Hulu responded with blocking Boxee users from accessing the content via RSS feeds the very same day. RSS feeds are publicly available and it's really disappointing to hear that a site would block certain applications from accessing their content in such a manner. I would assume that the Boxee development team is currently working on disguising its browser to look like Firefox, Internet Explorer, or some other known browser in an attempt to fool Hulu."
The explanation is simple (Score:5, Funny)
They're aliens.
And that's how they roll.
Actually, they are aliens (Score:4, Insightful)
Conventional wisdom tells us that the best conspiracies are completely in the open. People never suspect because they figure a real conspiracy would try to hide itself.
So if the owners of Hulu are in fact aliens, this is exactly the sort of ad campaign they would run.
Hm. Guess we're screwed.
(So let's just hope they're abundantly stupid like the aliens in Signs [wikipedia.org] and never take into account the fact that if water kills you on contact, maybe you shouldn't invade a planet covered in mostly water, inhabited by beings made of mostly water. HTF did that movie ever get past the script stage?)
Re:Actually, they are aliens (Score:5, Funny)
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if water kills you on contact, maybe you shouldn't invade a planet covered in mostly water
They're religiously nudist.
Obviously, a race capable of crossing the stars would have spacesuits and be able to make a fucking dry suit, or a god damned raincoat, but NO! They HAVE to walk around naked and exposed at all times, even if that means that their centuries-long plan will surely fail a day or two after they finally land the invasion party.
You should see the footage of their first moon landing. All that gasping and exploding eyeballs... So tragic.
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HTF did that movie ever get past the script stage?
That was the real Shyamalan Twist(tm) of the movie. "I got Mel Gibson and Joaquin Pheonix to star in this steamer, and then I got you to pay me so you could watch it! Surprise!"
Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:3, Informative)
Claiming that "Boxee" is like a browser's RSS feed is totally misleading. The software package cuts out the entire site, the adverts, etc and repackages it as almost its own material (with a small source icon).
How would you feel if someone hot-linked your content, consumed your bandwidth, and gave you no advertising revenue in exchange?
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd feel like a damn idiot for momentarily forgetting how the Internet works and for trying to have a lawyer solve an engineer's problem.
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It's not an engineer's problem entirely. No matter how they engineer it, someone can possibly scrape their streams, and serve them to the user utilizing the provider's bandwidth.
So they can and shold get their lawyers involved to take action and stop the blatant copyright infringment (framing someone else's content in your own site is a case of infringement, except when you're authorized to do it [implicitly and otherwise], and you do it in the manner so authorized).
There is a possible solution though
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Insightful)
There is a possible solution though: inject the ads into the video itself, so they can't be separated. Make the videos 'dynamic' flash videos, so the advertising can't really be removed without modifying a .SWF file.
Hey, you just described exactly how it works. There is no copyright infringement going on here. Boxee is not a web site, it is a media center application. Hulu allows embedding of their videos. They have ads in the video stream. Boxee basically just embeds the video, ads and all, into the application so that it can be played on your computer screen or TV with a simple interface.
If I recall correctly, Hulu originally provided code to help Boxee display Hulu content. So why the change of heart? I read some speculation somewhere that Hulu is actually being pressured by the content owners to stop Boxee because there is less advertising revenue from web streaming than there is for live TV. Since people use boxee to play videos on their TV and not a computer screen, the content owners feel they are losing out. What I don't think they understand is that you can watch Hulu's videos using your computer on your TV with or without Boxee.
No speculation necessary (Score:5, Informative)
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Jason Kilar, CEO of Hulu, admitted on the company's blog that the content owners demanded that Boxee stop displaying Hulu content.
Then I will have no remorse when traditional content producers die an albeit slow death. I'll continue to watch content I record with my DVR (and fast forward through commercials), I'll continue to download content via torrents (where there aren't any commercials), and I won't watch content with Hulu, where, ironically, I was willing to watch commercials.
Die, die, die. Long live
Re:No speculation necessary (Score:5, Insightful)
content owners demanded that Boxee stop displaying Hulu content
*shrug*
If they don't want me to watch their content, I have no problem obliging them.
And since Hulu is only available in one country in the world (not the one where I live) I guess there's a lot of their precious content that I won't be watching. Doesn't bother me, I've managed to survive this long without it.
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Your post earns a big "goodie for you".
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Insightful)
It's still a retarded move though; hulu and similar services have been drawing people away from "pirated"[sic] content and back to revenue-generating content, and now that it is hitting critical mass the content owners are shooting themselves in the foot. The folks at Hulu seem caught in the middle. Who are the losers? Both consumers and Hulu.
What content producers, software producers, and so forth are STILL failing to realize is that they are making the "pirated"[sic]/counterfeit product MORE valuable than the real thing because the "pirated"[sic] content is invariably not crippled by DRM.
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I wouldn't have thought this was true until I realized it happened for me. I started using PlayOn to watch Hulu content on the XBox and big ol' plasma tv.
After a couple weeks I realized I hadn't had a compelling reason to download anything from my usual sources. In the meantime they got to advertise to me just like on TV. Fewer commercials so I mind them less.
I wish they'd all stop pissing and moaning and just recognize that this model is a GREAT transitional one between TV and wherever we're headed.
Char
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What content producers, software producers, and so forth are STILL failing to realize is that they are making the "pirated"[sic]/counterfeit product MORE valuable than the real thing because the "pirated"[sic] content is invariably not crippled by DRM.
I think they realize what they're doing, and I think they know the consequences. Right now they have content that generates different revenue in different forms. TV is the highest, the internet is lower, and pirated is zero. They were losing some viewers to piracy before, so they countered with Hulu. Now they're losing more viewers from TV to the other two. By limiting Hulu, some portion of the people affected will resort to piracy, but I think they're betting on some portion resorting to plain old TV.
How t
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Nadda,
You assume people running these entities have employees with vision and or understanding. My take on the world has been pretty much the opposite.
I'm amazed at how companies keep afloat with all the morons running the show. Oh wait, they are collapsing...
I know it sounds fairly negative, but just remember my view is colored by experience.
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It is indeed a stupid move. I remember, back when I helped to run TV-Links, we sorta helped start all of this. I mean, it was one thing to download a dvdrip, but to stream it took balls...I think we had almost 1/4 million videos, and in Alexa hit above 15 and 25 for page rank in the US and UK, respectively (in the top 100 worldwide I believe too). However, the end justifies the means. We dreamt of a future with boxes like this and where media websites would give content away for free or with ads.
Unless they
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Interesting)
I wouldn't be surprised if the cable/satellite companies and local broadcasters are pressuring the national networks, as they have the most to lose from Internet-streaming set top boxes.
Local broadcasters don't have enormous profit margins. They're hurting right now, [wsj.com] and if ten percent of their market decide to stream Hulu to their TV, it could mean bankruptcy for many smaller providers. NBC and Fox have done the math; they don't want to lose the majority of their audience (who still watch whatever's on the tube) just to make a minority (who've learned about this whiz-bang Internet thingy) happy.
Cable and satellite companies, of course, have tremendous influence over the networks as well, as they provide the majority of the audience these days. They also have a history of doing whatever it takes to prevent competition and sweeten their contracts with the networks. If NBC has to choose between Comcast and Hulu, they'll pick the one that has 25 million paying subscribers. Hint: It's not Hulu...
Honestly, I don't think this is really about Boxee at all. I think it's just an attempt to set precedent. Lots of people are scared to death of a box that lets people watch whatever they want, whenever they want, with no monthly fee (beyond their broadband service). End distributors (local networks, cable companies) are afraid of the competition. Networks are afraid of losing their position as the gatekeepers of content, as the Internet makes it far easier for content creators (the individual production companies) to deal directly with the "distributors" (YouTube, etc).
So the networks have to walk a very fine line here. On the one hand, they can't afford to anger (or bankrupt) their current distributors. On the other, they can't afford to lose their dominance, even as people start switching to Internet-based services.
As a result, the networks seem to be taking a cautious approach: They work to popularize their own online services, like Hulu, in hopes of transferring their content oligopoly to the online world, but they avoid direct competition with their major distribution methods.
I'd wager that if streaming ever reaches a "saturation point", where everybody is watching TV on their computer and the market seems ready to switch, the networks will release some ordained "magic box" which streams their content (and maintains their control over the content market), and happily give their old distributors the metaphoric finger.
Or, if one large content owner makes a big push for streaming set top boxes, expect the rest to follow suit fairly quickly.
Until one of those occurs, though, expect more of the status quo. To use an analogy that describes technology adoption by most large industries: Nobody wants to be the only one in the pool, but they definitely don't want to be the only one out of the pool. They may all decide to jump in together, but if one decides to jump in now, the rest will follow.
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There are three options as to why this is the case:
Anyone care to speculate? Personally, I'd suspect that it's a lot of 1) and a little of 2), but I could
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you got it. Hulu WILL NOT WIN. They cant. The Boxee and XBMC hackers outnumber them 30 to 1 and they have far more talented programmers than Hulu could even hope to hire. Sorry, but it's the simple truth. They are making a lot of guys itch and they also like the challenge.
I get a kick out of how the boxee plugin is getting all kinds of press, while the XBMC plugin has been disguising it's self as IE 7 for quite a while now in the Daily builds.
Hulu, you might as well give up. The Boxee plugin will tu
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I never had heard about Boxee and this type of thing (I had used Hulu before however) until Hulu/content producers got all crazy.
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What difference can it make, open hulu with firefox then click full screen, works fine, connect your 42 in LCD TV to the computer no problems.
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What difference can it make, open hulu with firefox then click full screen, works fine, connect your 42 in LCD TV to the computer no problems.
Besides missing the entire fucking point (this is a video appliance) you have also missed that many people want to operate their entertainment center with a remote control. Trying to find the mouse pointer on a 42" television takes too long, I just want to press a button.
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Funny)
No matter how they engineer it, someone can possibly scrape their streams
As long as they don't CROSS their streams. That would be bad.
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I'm pretty sure this article is about how they are having the engineers solve this "engineer's problem". Yes?
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Interesting)
"How would you feel if someone hot-linked your content, consumed your bandwidth, and gave you no advertising revenue in exchange?"
Probably like a person with a very broken business model, but that's just me.
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Probably like a person with a very broken business model, but that's just me.
Then your solution is what? Hula should shut down completely instead of just excluding Boxee? How does that help anyone?
If you park your car downtown with the windows rolled down and the keys in the ignition, you may be an idiot. But the guy who takes it is still a thief. And the quiet little towns where nobody will take it... those are treasures.
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:4, Informative)
Boxee doesn't remove any ads. You see the exact same Hulu ads you would see if you went to their website.
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... except the paid banner ads and internal content ads (which may or may not be positioned according to payment like some search engines' results). If we don't acknowledge that those are there (and missing from Boxee), some marketing jerk is likely to say "they're not obtrusive enough, make them flash and change size!"
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Insightful)
YOU CANT STEAL WHAT IS FREELY GIVEN TO YOU.
Why cant you people get that through your heads??
Boxee did nothing but showed the EXACT SAME CONTENT in a better UI. Commercials all were there.
Just because some low IQ moron says something is not to his liking, it does not make it illegal or wrong. Whomever said that Boxee was stealing anything is a complete and utter moron that really needs to be killed so that he does not cause the rest of us to become dumber simply from his existence.
This is the Crux. Hulu said , "no more boxee" because some really really REALLY stupid executive at some content provider that Hulu does nto have the balls to name said they did not like it.
Only the incredibly low IQ people think that boxee was stealing anything. These same people think that Best buy employees are highly educated and know what they are talking about.
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Amen Brother.
Someone mod this Coward up!
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This is the Crux. Hulu said , "no more boxee" because some really really REALLY stupid executive at some content provider that Hulu does nto have the balls to name said they did not like it.
You do realize that without content providers, Hulu ceases to exist, right? Having the proverbial balls to stand up to them could only backfire, as the content provider will happily stop providing. This is the nature of the beast when someone is providing content that has perceived value. (If it did not have perceived value, people would not watch it.)
Only the incredibly low IQ people think that boxee was stealing anything. These same people think that Best buy employees are highly educated and know what they are talking about.
Insulting people is always a fine way to make your point, but frankly stealing (or not) is irrelevant to the discussion. Hulu has not accused anybody of s
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I would not enjoy knowing every homework I ever finished was turned into the teacher under a glass frame engraved with someone else's name.
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If you park your car downtown with the windows rolled down and the keys in the ignition, you may be an idiot. But the guy who takes it is still a thief. And the quiet little towns where nobody will take it... those are treasures.
The problem with your car analogy is that Hulu is explicitly making available their content. If there's no authentication, and they just cough up the data when you ask for it, then you're clearly not stealing - to stretch the analogy a bit more to try to actually make it fit the situation, it's more like the RSS is a flyer telling you where to get the car, and when you get there you're permitted to take it. Of course, this is a stupid analogy and you are a stupid person for trying to make it in the first pl
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-Did the Parent say that?! no. It is an analogy.
-I'm not sure what part of hulu you arn't getting. They provide a service but are at the mercy of the content providers. They have no business without them, but they do have one without boxee. So when content providers say "don't let boxee use hulu", hulu listenes, whether they want to or not.
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Hulu's business model is fatally flawed because they have to bend over any time a content provider says "grab them ankles". They have no chance to survive (make your time etc.)
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Its like that in a lot of bigger cities. My brother never locked his doors when he lived in Las Vegas for the same reason. No point in having to also buy a new window when something got stolen.
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This has nothing to do with "mooching", "freeloading" or "stealing".
This is simply some content provider deciding that they will EXCLUDE
someone. It would be just like NBC declaring that you can't watch
their show with a Sony TV or that "gooks" can't watch their show with
ANY TV.
This is effectively a TV broadcast in the form of a website.
There is nothing to steal to begin with.
What we have here is basically a bunch of corporate bootlickers
trying their best to come up with highly lame excuses to defend
the "arti
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If you're not getting an annual raise, then you're getting an effective annual cut, so I think that's a perfectly reasonable assumption (unless your performance has been truly awful)...such are the wonders of inflation.
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I would feel like I should work with those people to get a bigger slice of the pie.
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No, find the guys that know how to bake a pie just for you and work for them.
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Probably like a person with a very broken business model, but that's just me.
Let's see you do better. The people that yap about broken business models generally aren't doing anything better, or anything at all. As far as I can tell, it's just hot air used to make excuses, I've never seen anyone that cite "broken business model" suggest a better alternative.
As it is, there is not much for a sustainable business model for video producers on the internet. The people that are really good might be able to support one family, if they're lucky, maybe two families, but even people with m
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Well, the alternative is to get the hell out of the business. Luckily, these things have a way of resolving themselves - if the content producers can't figure out how to make a profit distributing shows on the internet, then the
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Insightful)
Seeing as hulu lets you embed their content [bustercollings.com] like youtube, it is strange if their objection is that in-site ads are being skipped. (And are we back to the AdBlock extension == theft argument?)
Otherwise, I assume the ads embedded in the video are still be played.
The only reasons I can imagine for Hulu to wat to block Boxee are (1) ignorance of their own profit model (2) planning to release their own hardware box, or else partner with someone else in order to get the same vertical monopoly going.
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Content owners are leaning on Hulu to block boxee clients. Simple as that.
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Have you even used Boxee??? (Score:5, Informative)
Boxee does not strip out the ads. It is still the same video stream, boxee just gives a remote-friendly interface to the media. It is no different than watching Hulu in full screen with your computer plugged into a TV. Hulu allows embedding into another website just like Youtube and other media sites, so how is embedding into the Boxee media player any different?
Also, Hulu's ads are played in the video. How are they being deprived of advertising revenue?
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Also, Hulu's ads are played in the video. How are they being deprived of advertising revenue?
I don't think it's directly about the internet or software, but what it's replacing.
If Boxee is being used at the TV to replace the cable box or directly watching broadcast TV, then they lose a lot of ad revenue because online video ads don't pay a tenth as much per viewer as it does on TV or cable.
They're trying to straddle two worlds, the old broadcast model, which paid a lot better, but is weakening, and trying to transition to the internet model, the medium is strong but the money is very weak.
Re:One word. Branding. (Score:4, Insightful)
How do you explain that hulu lets you embed their videos on any web page you choose, just like youtube does?
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I'd realize that my content is online and therefore available to anyone and just say what the hell. If it created a problem for me then I'd realize I had a stupid business model or had some technical flaws and make changes.
Ad supported content that keeps you from being comfortable in your access of that content is a bad model. Instead of fighting Boxee why not work on a solution such as streaming ads into the content?
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You're acting as if the advertisements aren't being displayed -- to my knowledge, the advertisements that are presented (usually 4 to 5 times, from my own viewing of various shows) while watching the video still play.
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Now I'm not familiar with Boxee or with Hulu's RSS feed
So... you have no idea what you're talking about, but you won't let that stop you?
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:4, Funny)
It's never stopped anyone else...
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Insightful)
You're quite welcome to miss the point, if you like. Who am I to stop you if such a thing makes you feel better?
On the other hand... if you'd rather understand what it is I'm actually saying, you should take note of the fact that RSS is meant for content syndication and is meant to be interpreted as a set of individual items, while a web page is meant to be displayed as a whole. Unless Boxee is stripping the RSS content itself, its use is consistent with the purpose of an RSS feed. That's my point.
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Now I'm not familiar with Boxee or with Hulu's RSS feed, so I cannot comment on the specifics, but, unless Boxee is actually modifying the contents of the RSS feed, it seems to me that Hulu are acting like jerks.
Well, you might want to look into that. Hulu's RSS just links to the hulu.com page where you can watch and provides a little information about the show (rating, run-time, etc.). Boxee is (presumably) following that link and then page-scraping the video into their own interface. I hear that there are significant performance improvements by using Boxee's player over Hulu's so they may be scraping the video stream directly rather than just embedding the player in a different interface, but in either case th
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I see. So rather than a straight presentation of the RSS feed, Boxee is taking the RSS feed and using that to figure out which videos to embed?
I can see how such use of the RSS feed might be seen as questionable, but aren't they still embedding the videos according to Hulu's own embed code? The original poster complained about missing ads, but if Boxee is embedding videos according to Hulu's own standards for third-party embedding then I still can't see much wrong with what they're doing.
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Informative)
Except Boxee didn't strip the commercials from Hulu. I used to watch Hulu in the browser in the beta days, and then later in Boxee. I saw the same ads inlaid in the show whether I watched on the site or via Boxee. The difference was that Boxee had better UI for browsing the programs, and that Boxee's method of reading the stream gave me considerably better framerate/performance than trying to view full-screen in Flash on the site did.
In other words, Boxee was a great deal more usable for me as a viewer, and I saw all the same commercials I did as a user of the website. (Hulu doesn't do sidebar advertising, their adverts are in the programs themselves where ad-breaks would normally be.)
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Actually Hulu does have traditional ads on the video pages as well, but I'd imagine that they're considerably less lucrative than the ones injected in the videos.
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The only advertising that I've noticed is the little banner that appears in the upper right corner, which in my experience is always for the same product shown during the in-video ads.
I guess Hulu's recommended video listings could be considered ads as well, since they're intended to drive you to other Hulu video offerings rather than just watching whatever afterwards, as you would be more likely to do with Boxee.
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Honestly, if there is any additional advertising on Hulu it is so unobtrusive that I've never used it. I don't run adblockers (although some news sites are so obnoxious I should install one) because I recognize that advertising revenue is what pays for "free" content. If the advertising revenue disappears, eventually so will the content.
However, given the situation where the ads are embedded in the streams, it's foolish to block Boxee. All Boxee does is drive more viewers to the content.
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Interesting theory. Please, let me know when you develop a means to pay the bills with your lofty ideals, it sounds much more fulfilling than selling out the way everyone else does.
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Interesting)
You mean like when my girlfriend releases digital copies under creative commons, allows book publishers, music publishers and event promoters to use her images free with attribution, and then sells the original works of acrylic painted on canvas in higher volume and for higher prices? Works real well... gets a lot of commissioned pieces for murals, does live paintings of performers at raves and spoken word events and festivals, the list goes on.
It's called dealing with the realities of the world. Sell what is naturally scarce and share what is naturally plentiful as wide and far as you can, and people will come knock on your door. Now, contrast that with a business model whose entire existence relies on the continuation of wildly unpopular and wasteful legal structures that treat bits on a wire as though they were carrots dug out of your garden. Who is the idealist here?
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Well, what is the naturally scarce thing in a blockbuster film that you could sell?
Is there enough of it to cover the typical $200M cost to produce? Or better yet, have some obscene profit, to cover the films that turn out to not be good enough to make back their production costs?
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So if your actual creation doesn't exist in any form other than digital, fuck off with wanting money for it? I'm glad that your girlfriend can make a living selling ACTUAL PHYSICAL PAINTINGS while giving away digital copies to anyone who wants one, but if you can't see how perhaps that example isn't relevant across the board then you are beyond helping.
I'm also wondering where your bizarre black and white world view comes from. Is there no middle ground between merely wishing to share an artistic vision as
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The house you live in doesn't appear because people are systematically denied the right to share. The food, the goods, none of them appear because of copyright. The copyright is only a mechanism for sorting common goods among the population. Therefor
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Insightful)
We're not talking about most people. We're talking about professional creators. If you don't have a creative contribution to add to this world, you sure as hell shouldn't be getting paid to sit around all day publishing.
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Luddites all over again.
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Interesting theory. Please, let me know when you develop a means to pay the bills with your lofty ideals, it sounds much more fulfilling than selling out the way everyone else does.
You do not have the right to make a profit. If you did, nobody would ever have to look for work - work would find them. Every business would be successful. And we could all suck each other off as we drove to the moon. Advertising is a deliberate attempt to use known tactics to make people feel inadequate so they buy shit they don't need or usually even want. Copyright, the basis on which you suggest that we pay the bills, was created not to provide incentive to create new works, but to provide incentive to
Re:Boxee is not like RSS in a browser (Score:5, Insightful)
However, you CAN bypass DRM for the purpose of interoperability. Want to watch media on Boxee? You now fall under the requirements for the clause which allows defeating/bypassing the DRM.
Boxee? (Score:4, Funny)
I blame 4Chan. [encycloped...matica.com]
End result = No more RSS (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:End result = No more RSS (Score:5, Funny)
openness of Hulu
Ah! Is this an oxymoron contest?
My turn then: "Atheism of the Pope"
Rename slashdot to "Hulu Boxee Wars" (Score:2, Informative)
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xbmcboxee (Score:2, Informative)
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Hulu + Boxee (Score:2)
Re:Hulu + Boxee (Score:5, Informative)
My understanding: Content providers gave Hulu a license to display their works on computers. However, they don't perceive Boxee as a computer; instead, they perceive it as a TV. They haven't given Hulu a license to display their works on TVs, so they're unhappy with Hulu being on Boxee. Of course, there's no difference between "display on a computer" and "display on a tv" anymore, but they don't want this to be true. It's dumb, but that's the media industry for you.
I shall answer thee with radiohead lyrics (Score:2)
Does anybody know just why Hulu & Boxee don't get along? I've read that come content providers asked Hulu to block Boxee, but I completely fail to see the logic behind the request.
"I don't care if it hurts, I wanna have control [...] 'cause I'm a creep."
Screw `em (Score:5, Informative)
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I suggest anyone interested in this grab the script form the forums: http://dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=202542#202542 [dd-wrt.com]
(It doesn't add in domain names for links if you have them enabled)
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Excuse my last post... here is the thread dedicated to that script:
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=263581#263581 [dd-wrt.com]
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Can you post a link to this script instead? Pasting it into a comment mangled it horribly.
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Yes
And from the BSA no less!
Slashdot's CIO should really get in touch with Google over /.'s adsense account...
It's fun to watch open war on the internets (Score:2)
Two companies at war deploying tech solutions to battle each other is certainly a lot of fun to watch for web developers, engineers and geeks. It's like photoshop tennis but with real tech, not just words and art.
We are the spectators of a mild legal cyberwar.
Wake up, the future is here, science fiction concepts from 20 years ago are now reality.
Am I the only one finding this pretty amazing?
Re:Stop telling companies how to operate. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Stop telling companies how to operate. (Score:5, Funny)
Honestly, I don't know the full history of this story, nor how exactly Hulu works.
This is the point where you should have canceled your post.
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Americans care because they can use Hulu.
The rest of earth cares because Americans are doing it. Earth shattering title still secure.
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Exactly. Who the fuck cares? This a complete non-event. Hulu is boring, therefore their strife with some other unknown company is boring too.
*shrug*
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More like..
When Hulu is ALLOWED to discover the rest of the planet.
Several people have said this, but it needs to be pointed out. Hulu is a corporation with a LEGAL licensing agreement for their content. They have to bow to the whims of the MPAA, etc.
While the ideologues among you will say that they should just tell the media companies to screw themselves, we all know that isn't going to happen.
Both the issue at bar here and the one you present are directly the fault of the content providers. They'll contin
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This probably really isn't about boxee - it is about the content owners wanting to get rid of hulu and build their own individual sites. So anything they can do to make it harder to use hulu, especially on something likely to be playing on a TV screen is in their interest.
Yeah well ... any outfit that would pick that Baldwin dimbulb as its spokesman has problems anyway.
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Shockingly, most people want to watch TV shows on their TV. Not on their computer screens.
Get an open source media box (Score:2)
All modern hdtvs made in the last 3 years have HDMI or DVI ports. Apple TV has an hdmi port.
The flaw is not in Hulu which works with any opensource web browser on windows, mac or linux, its in Apple TV, a closed source box with crippled functionality. That boxee software is opensource doesnt mean it can help itself to hulu's content.
Just because I am not an apple fanboy doesnt make me a troll and doesnt make me wrong either.
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The fact that a company provides content does not mean that they get to dictate how one can view that content. If it's technically possible for me to view Hulu content on my TV, and Hulu takes measures to prevent that, then Hulu is in the wrong.
To me, Hulu is acting as a content provider. They provide the content to me. If I want to display that content in the way I choose, then that's my right to do so, and I have no problem circumventing any technical measures they decide to put in my way.
However, it's si
Actually ... (Score:2)
... it is Hulu's content providers that have made that decision. Hulu has to go along or lose the content providers. Hulu's difficulty is convincing the clueless executives at content providers like NBC that the provider's understand of the internet, and their desire to make the internet work just like TV broadcasting, is flawed.
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Hulu made the wrong move. They should have lost the content providers instead. Because then, at least, they would not have tarnished their name beyond repair forever.
Hulu is effectively dead. They just haven't stopped writhing yet.