NVIDIA 790i Chipset and GeForce 9800 GX2 Launched 117
MojoKid writes "NVIDIA has launched their next generation desktop chipsets for the Intel
platform today, now known as the nForce 790i and 750i SLI families, along with a new high-end graphics card dubbed the GeForce 9800 GX2. The new motherboard chipset offering brings support for DDR3 to the NVIDIA platform for Intel's Core 2 processors with 1600MHz Front Side Bus support, as well as Gen2 PCI Express for multi-GPU graphics and NVIDIA's new ESA health monitoring/control functions. Performance with the new platform looks fairly impressive in both
workstation and gaming scenarios."
New toys! (Score:4, Funny)
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How about a new numbering schema? (Score:5, Insightful)
Please don't tell me we're going to have the Nvidia 10,000 or the AMD/ATI 1,000,000+...
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Re:How about a new numbering schema? (Score:5, Informative)
ATI had a 9xxx series years ago (2002), because they didn't start with a "Radeon 1", instead it was the 7000 to match Direct-X 7.0. nVidia started with the "GeForce", followed by 2, then 3, then changed to the standard "thousands" naming with the GeForce 4000 series, also released in 2002.
nVidia has overlapped ATI's graphics card numbers since the GeForce 7000 series a couple of years ago, but few people noticed because ATI's 7000 cards weren't that memorable. However pretty much everyone who has been building PCs for more than 6 years will still remember the ATI 9800, and how it beat nVidia's "GeForce FX" 5800 so soundly that they had to release a revised version called the 5900, and then ANOTHER revised version called the 5950 in an attempt to beat it.
I don't yet see a need to get a GeForce 9800, I haven't found any games that my GeForce 8800 GTS r1 (320MB) can't run perfectly fine on high settings. Let me know if one turns up.
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Actually the Radeon line did not start at 7000. The first Radeon (R100-based) was called simply that: "ATI Radeon". Later there was a "Radeon 32" and "Radeon 64".
Straying off topic here, but I thought the Radeon 7000 (aka Radeon VE) was a misleading rip-off product. Remember, NVIDIA released the first mainstream card with hardware transform and lighting (T&L) and named it "GeForce." ATI responded a little later by releasing their hardware T&L product, named "Radeon." Later, NVIDIA released the first "reasonably priced" hardware T&L card called "GeForce 2MX." ATI responded with the Radeon 7000/VE, but this product did not feature hardware T&L.
Other
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GeForce Radeon
1 -
2 -
3 7
4 8
5 9
6 X
7 X1
8 HD 2
9 HD 3
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Prefixes of competing nVidia and ATI graphics cards:
GeForce <=> Radeon
1 <=> -
2 <=> -
3 <=> 7
4 <=> 8
5 <=> 9
6 <=> X
7 <=> X1
8 <=> HD 2
9 <=> HD 3
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What with household expenses (new tankless water heater needed, finishing the basement, repairing the roof on the porch, Etc.) and all the other stuff that goes along with buying a house, plus having just spent money to start a new car lease (old beater was on it's last legs and I can't afford to buy the size vehicle I need wit
Re:New toys! (Score:5, Informative)
I mean you're replacing the Motherboard (~$100), CPU (~$100), Memory (~$100), and Graphics card ($200). Those numbers are very rough too, you could play around quite a bit with them (Get a $175 graphics card to upgrade the CPU for example). Your system won't be a slouch either. It'll be something like a Core2Duo E4500, 2GB Memory, a motherboard with built-in ethernet, sound (unless you already have a sound card), firewire, etc... a Geforce 9600 and all of the peripherals you already have.
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We may also be looking at different setups here. For me, "Low End" means that while it doesn't have the latest and greatest, it IS fully up to date as far as socket types, FSB speeds, and RAM speeds are concerned. In other words, that there is some upgradability built into it so I can hold onto it longer and upgrade a few times before it's completely outmoded.
I recently spent some time at Newegg pricing out a new rig.
Motherboard ~ $150 (at least. Unless you want to get a motherboard
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For me, "Low End" means that while it doesn't have the latest and greatest, it IS fully up to date as far as socket types, FSB speeds, and RAM speeds are concerned. In other words, that there is some upgradability built into it so I can hold onto it longer and upgrade a few times before it's completely outmoded.
I recently spent some time at Newegg pricing out a new rig.
Motherboard ~ $150 (at least. Unless you want to get a motherboard that won't be upgradable because it's using a 1 generation old socket.)
CPU ~ $200 - 300 (core 2 duo's run around $200, quads around $300)
RAM ~ $250 (for 2 gigs of average quality RAM in the proper speed. A minimum for running VM's and gaming)
Graphics card ~ $300 (for any Nvidia 8x00 card, although this may have dropped a bit with the release mentioned in TFA)
Your version of "low end" looks like an upper-mid-range gaming rig to me, especially the $250 for RAM and $300 for a current-generation graphics card.
If you're willing to use an AMD platform again, motherboards using the new AMD 780G chipset [techreport.com] (socket AM2+ for Phenom, PCI Express 2.0, HyperTransport 3.0, RAID 0/1/10, integrated Radeon HD 2400 based graphics, HDMI) start at $80 ($70 after rebate) at Newegg [newegg.com].
For now, a $61 Athlon 64 X2 4200+ [newegg.com] (65nm with VT support) should be a very nice temporary upgrade fro
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Trust me when I say I know what you mean. I'm in the same boat with several AGP systems that it seems stupid to u
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My System (Score:1)
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the 9600GT will give you decent gaming performance these days...
I was in the middle of placing an order for PC-parts, including the 9600GT, when I saw this story in the rss-feed. Now I'm wondering, is an announcement like this likely to push prices lower for the 9600GT (released in feb)? And while I'm at it: linux support seems [linuxtoday.com] better for NVidia's 9600GT then ATI's mid-range competitor, the HD 3850, but does anyone here has any experience with those cards running linux?
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Where is nforce 7XX for AMD? (Score:1)
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in financial news (Score:5, Interesting)
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=nvda [yahoo.com]
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You're right that it's not always bad. But there are some very good things about being debt free.
Deja vu (Score:2, Redundant)
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And as Intel found out ages ago, you can't trademark a number.
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Some questions. (Score:2)
Seriously, I've have an overheated nVIDIA card blow up and take out a motherboard with it.
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Blindness aside, wouldn't a headless server not even need a video card? The nForce 6 in my server has nVidia's integrated 6150 and needs very little system RAM for the VGA console I never use (I use SSH except in dire situations).
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(I prefer to have as few moving parts in my servers as pratically possible. So motherboards with heat pipes and radiators are better then a tiny 40mm fan cooling a chipset.)
Lied about the MSRP? (Score:2)
Either way, $449 would have been a much nicer price, but I guess since they move so few units of these high end cards anyway (i've heard it is well less than 100k units sold for the high-end cards) they need to ha
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Go back and look at them again, 9800GX2 trounces the 8800GT as soon as you turn the settings up. It is very comparable to the SLI 8800 GTS 512mb which is 2 8800 GTS cards put together. That will cost you more to do then buying this card will.
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Par for the course (Score:2)
New cards are great and all... (Score:5, Interesting)
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I haven't read any word on the newer Purevideo features yet.
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HD content is an entirely different beast, right now you need a high-powered dual core CPU (as a minimum) to decode 1080p content even at low-ish bitrates. My AMD64 3200+ only does 720p with a bit of ro
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This is just answering the "Why would you?" bit. I still think they should update the library to support all the features of the new cards.
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As is the names of cards wasn't confusing enough.. (Score:4, Interesting)
Ever pay attention to their labeling scheme? (Score:2)
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Is it a new chipset? (Score:2)
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NVidia chipset? I would think twice (Score:4, Informative)
Just sharing my experiences; don't listen to me if you don't want to. Other than the noise issue, the thing is very stable even with a slight CPU+memory overclock.
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Wow (Score:3, Funny)
What About Those AMD Chipsets? (Score:1)
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The answer is, or soon will be, to "crossfire" your cards instead.
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Sheesh, this took them a year and a half? (Score:5, Insightful)
Same goes for the 790i. It's neat that it can do DDR3 (ho-hum) or that it can run 1600Mhz FSB CPUs (which you'd expect from a recent chipset). Let's face it - it's a very minor improvement over the 780i which itself did little to improve upon the 680i.
Props to Asus for the nice motherboard - it's nice to see such an innovative northbridge/southbridge cooling solution. Other than that, I don't think there's much to see here.
I don't mean to be a party-pooper but article sounds like the author got overexcited once or twice during the writing process. I just don't get what the enthusiasm is all about.
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Me, I have what I consider a high-end gaming system. Overclocked quad, 8800GTS, tons of ram and a 27" LC
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It's two GPUs on one PCB. It's different than two single-GPU cards in SLI, because you can put two dual-GPU cards into SLI, which would theoretically be 4x the graphics power.
I realize that it might be smarter to wait a month or two for the real technology upgrade, but for the deep-pocketed got-to-have-it-now consumer, a $700 dual-GPU card might be the right frosting on their top-of-the-line cake.
Now if only I were a deep-pocketed got-to-have-it-now consumer...
Will it run... (Score:2)
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To think (Score:1)
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What are the units in the article? (Score:2)
This is off-topic, I suppose, for discussing the article at HotHardware, rather than the video card.
But anyway, here goes.
So it took between 10852 and 10911 seconds to render the scene?
Yet at the same time, the graph says "higher
But... the driver (Score:1)
(sigh) I just bought an 8600GT... (Score:1)
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£400 for a new graphics card (Score:1)
Think I'll just wait for Win7 and skip a handful of hardware iterations. Given that the current rig plays HL2 and Far Cry at a decent resolution with full shinies, I can't work out why UT3 either looks nice but runs at 2fps, or runs at 25fps but looks like an Atari 2600 game.
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Does anyone else... (Score:2)
Seriously Intel/Nvidia why can't I get a performance non-SLI Enthusiast class motherboard cheap?
AMD does it and did it before they integrated the memory controller into the cpu.
I'm glad ATI/AMD is making a comeback because they offered performance cpu/mobo combinations at a reasonable price.
I can watch morons buy $300 motherboards, $1000 cpus, and $600 GPUS without spite (well maybe a little) but don't make the next step down $50 motherboards, $90 cpus, and $50 GPUS... seriously...
All three co
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