Thinkpad X300 Specs Leaked 372
Kyokushi writes "Gizmodo reports that some specifications of a new ultralight Lenovo X300 have been leaked. 'It appears that Lenovo have themselves a new ultralight X300 series Thinkpad — and outside of the price and release date, we have all of the specs that you need to know. At a glance, some of the major features include: a 13.3-inch LED backlit 1440X900 screen, an ultralight 2.5 pound form factor, and Intel Merom Santa Rosa Dual Core CPU (2.0 Ghz / 880 Mhz ), a 64 GB SSD, up to 4GB of DDR2 PC2-5300 memory, and 4 hours of battery life.' If this is true, then Lenovo looks to have some heavy competition for the Macbook Air." Update: 01/20 22:55 GMT by S : Corrected Gizmondo->Gizmodo.
Light? (Score:2, Insightful)
Need video and wireless specs (Score:5, Insightful)
This sounds really interesting, but I'm waiting to hear more about video and wireless card. Thinkpads have been very good for me in running Linux, but Linux on laptops these days often comes down to the video card, modem, and the wireless card. Modems are usually winmodems, which are hard to support - but I haven't used a modem in years. Anyone have other details to point to?
Re:I like the specs better (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:I like the specs better (Score:2, Insightful)
FunctionForm (Score:5, Insightful)
why are thinkpads so ugly? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:I like the specs better (Score:5, Insightful)
Catch up, indeed.
Re:I like the specs better (Score:0, Insightful)
Hey, everybody, the Ford Escort is higher quality car than a Porsche Carrera GT. Want proof? There are more Escorts on the road!
Target Market (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:why are thinkpads so ugly? (Score:5, Insightful)
Ugly?
Some of us think the black boxy design is incredibly sexy. The design behind the Thinkpad is based of the elegant design of the Japanese Bento Box [quickspice.com]. One of think Thinkpads is even on permanent display at New York Museum of Modern Art!
The day these machines stop being black and boxy is the day many of us stop buying them.
Re:why are thinkpads so ugly? (Score:3, Insightful)
My Macbook Pro's keyboard does all that I need in both OS X and Windows, and doesn't have all of the extra keys and extra writing on them that the Thinpads do.
Re:why are thinkpads so ugly? (Score:4, Insightful)
My laptop is about a year old and only travels occasionally. It looks great except for all the scratches, discolouration, chips etc. Unless you always store your laptop in a padded laptop bag, in a separate compartment from the power adaptor and other accessories it will only stay pretty a few months.
You can just throw a Lenovo in the boot every day and a couple years later it will come out looking the same - see your comment above
Non MS-Windows option needed (Score:3, Insightful)
MS-Windows can be preinstalled but licensed separately, meaning there only has to be a single packaging, model, inventory, etc. They could even choose a free, redistributable Linux distro and install that too and the user can have a working machine in minutes, even if they opt to not spend money on Vista. Initialization of the machine can automatically remove the space consumed by either, based on the user's choice.
I kinda doubt Microsoft would allow such competition, though... but it seems a reasonable objective to combat such restrictions based on an anti-trust lawsuit.
Re:FunctionForm (Score:3, Insightful)
To me, the Thinkpad looks like a better laptop than the Macbook Air, because it's got an optical drive, three USB ports instead of one, built-in ethernet, and a faster processor. But why even compare these two laptops, instead of comparing a Macbook or Macbook Pro to whatever model of competing Thinkpads there are, unless size is one of your primary criteria? If size wasn't a primary consideration, you shouldn't be shopping for or comparing either of these two laptops, because you'd get more laptop for your money in something that isn't aimed specifically at being tiny.
And for those for whom it's all about size, the Apple's graduated to a different league than this Thinkpad. They're about the same footprint, but the Air tapers from
Again, it's a difference that I, and probably most people on Slashdot don't really care about, but apparently some people do, and as I said, why compare ultra-slim notebooks at all if you aren't going to give them points for how ultra-slim they are? If there weren't a lot of people in the US willing to pay a thousand or more dollars extra for something slightly slimmer, Dynamism [dynamism.com] wouldn't have been around for all these years.
I think the lack of ports on the Air are a huge drawback, but I think it's Apple's attempt to start dragging us into a wireless future, and it's a future I don't think technology's ready for now, but will be in a few years. Once there's a decent wireless peripheral interface with broad support (wireless USB or whatever), and there's wireless charging, and maybe some new batteries that last much longer and last for many more recharging cycles, they can just make 0-port hermetically sealed laptops. That would be a cool future. I'd also want my Wi-Fi integrated such that it's functional at the BIOS level, so one could do OS upgrades and netboot and emergency recovery over WIFI. Apple's trying to nudge us this way, and so to them it's a "feature" that they took nearly all the ports off the computer, although it's a feature that would currently make my world a much more difficult one.
This new Thinkpad isn't trying to be visionary, and it isn't radically thinner. It's just the regular old incremental improvement, not much different in magnitude from the past 10 generations of thin Thinkpads in how much different it is from its predecessors. While I personally prefer its specs over the Air's, I prefer nearly any new Laptop's specs over the Air's, and I'm surprised people consider it news, because it looks to me like the slightly smaller, slightly faster future we're all used to on notebook revisions, while the Air was a much smaller, intentionally low-on-ports different vision of the suture that is sort of newsworthy.
Footprint vs. Thickness (Score:4, Insightful)
Cosmetic Computing... (Score:1, Insightful)
I've also noticed that a lot of what Apple does now is "output only". Many of Apples latest products are all about getting you to buy media, not create it. For example, the Apple iPod line could very well have a built in stereo A/D converter for high-end audio, like the Roland EDIROL R-09 recorder, but nooo, that would be "enabling" the customer, which we just can't allow. Also, Apple it seems just doesn't want their devices to become general "computing" devices that the public can control with their own software. yuk spit.
Re:I like the specs better (Score:4, Insightful)
Windows API/ABI at least is stable. Apple's new OS is less so. I wander how long it will take for 10.0 apps to be unusable. The only "problem" with 64-bit Vista is you can't run Windows 3.1 apps anymore.
I know you can argue that manifests are nasty and all that, but at least the overall situation with manifests is a little better than the old DLL-hell we used to experience. Apple has a better solution from user standpoint, though it has its shortcoming (ie. app bundles).
But if you are speaking from a programming world (as someone that writes software for all 3 OS - OS X, windows and Linux), Linux's userland is way ahead in the programmer friendliness. Stuff just works. Tools just work. Automation just works. In this light and my experience, both X and Windows are light-years behind.
What you've all missed so far... (Score:3, Insightful)
Is that it has both GPS and WIMAX on board. That is what makes it a more interesting and forward looking design than Mac Air. Physically, it's boring. The cornucopia of ports is boring. Laptops have these things. It looks so like every other Lenovo laptop that there's nothing 'must have' about the appearance. But I am convinced that the next killer application will be location sensitive and require ubiquitous mobile connectivity. WiFi doesn't have it and 3G isn't very fast.
Steve Jobs isn't going to lie awake tonight kicking himself because Lenovo have brought out yet another dull black corporate laptop. He's going to be kicking himself about the GPS and the WIMAX.
Re:I like the specs better (Score:1, Insightful)
That's nice - where does the WiFi router get its network connectivity? Magic?
You're an idiot.
Re:Need video and wireless specs (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:why are thinkpads so ugly? (Score:3, Insightful)
I want something cheaper! (Score:3, Insightful)
Firefox
Watch Movies
Skype
Urban Terror
Audacity
Thunderbird
Abiword
Civilization 2
Burn CDs
Play mp3s
That system is overkill. Don't get me wrong, extra horse power is always a good thing, but aside from burning a cd, a EEE will do everything I want and (I'm sure) is much cheaper and smaller, and easy to carry. I'd like to see more competition in the ultra cheap department, once I can get something of EEE functionality for $150, I'll be considering lots of extra fun little projects.
I mean, other than running Vista (why would you do that to yourself, anyway?), is there a point to spending more for that much horse power? Ubuntu runs well on a pentium 3 and does 99% of what most people need!!!
Re:I like the specs better (Score:2, Insightful)
Perhaps more importantly, Apple wants you to keep your multimedia files on separate devices such as Time Capsule and Apple TV, so you won't be needing to transfer large files anyways
Re:Is it actually a Thinkpad? (Score:3, Insightful)
My biggest beef with this design is the small form factor HDD instead of the standard 2.5" form factor and the optical drive bay, which I have a use for but which I'd rather not be there at all to save space for the battery and add rigidity to the chassis.
Re:I like the specs better (Score:3, Insightful)
No way Jose (Score:2, Insightful)
By the way, MacBook Air doesn't want to be your next "dull work notebook" or "corporate workhorse". The MBA is a computer for people with smooth hands. If you need a tricked out notebook meant as desktop replacement, try the MacBook Pro. Just don't compare that ThinkPad to a MacBook. The MacBook is a $1100 consumer laptop, the ThinkPad X61 is a $2000 mammoth tanker.
Re:lenovo already has ultralight... (Score:3, Insightful)
Having to take your fingers off the keyboard to use the mouse on a laptop is not ergonomic.
Re:Apple fetish must end (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Light? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:why are thinkpads so ugly? (Score:3, Insightful)
I know ThinkPads are being marketed mainly to businesses, but business users are still people, and by a large majority most people seem to appreciate cleaner looking designs. It would behoove Lenovo to come up with an alternate design to compete better against the Apple laptops that even business users are buying in droves these days. You can bet your booty there will be a ton of business "frequent flyer" and presenter types that will be buying the new MacBook Air despite all it's technical shortcomings. A large part of their reason for choosing the MacBook Air will be the sleek, uncomplicated design. I don't care how technically awesome and super-light this new ThinkPad is, there are a lot of people like me who would much rather lug around a MacBook Pro than be forced to use something so ugly. The GP post was right, it still looks like it was made in 1995. I can't see how anyone would think that's good marketing. Except for die-hard ThinkPad fans, of course.
Yes, ugly is in the eye of the beholder. But there is a reason people are buying Macs by the millions, and shockingly the software is only part of it.