Exploding Cell Phone Battery Kills 287
LingNoi writes "A man in Korea was found dead at his workplace Wednesday morning and his mobile phone battery was melted in his shirt pocket. No one knows for sure yet but a doctor who examined the body said, "He sustained an injury that is similar to a burn in the left chest and his ribs and spine were broken" We have heard of other dangerous battery products here on Slashdot." Update: 11/30 17:34 GMT by Z : Turns out the melted battery was the least of his worries; he was actually hit by a truck.
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I'd like to know just how big that battery was.
Broken ribs and spine? Ok, this man was found in his workplace (a quarry.) Isn't reasonable to assume something else broke those ribs and spine and whatever did that also damaged the phone and battery?
The cell in my Razr could probably take off a finger or two if it exploded from pressure, but a spine is a rather hard thing to break, let alone ribs, unless this was a very, very small man.
This sounds like something from The Weekly World News, the Sun or News of the World.
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Perfect xmas gift for an ex-wife. (Score:5, Funny)
"In Korea, exploding cellphones are only for old people."
In the rest of the world, they're also great stocking stuffers for ex-wives, guys who beat on women, and Darl McBride.
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His job in the quarry was to hunt rats. He has a tiny spear, and special shirt with a gigantic (for him) pocket sown into the back to carry his cellphone, which is essentially the largest thing he carries.
Did I mention that he's a minature dwarf spider monkey? Hmm...probably not important.
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*spoiler*
Had me thinking "are they for real?" until I clicked "No thanks!"
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Maybe the cell phone battery exploded, he started to panic because it burned, and he fell on a table edge and broke is back.. ribs break easily so just a normal fall could cause that.
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Given pictures/videos of exploding laptop batteries that have been shown in the past, I'm not sure one of those could even break the spine through the chest of a small child let alone adult. And using the worst case against my argument, even the larger cell phones out there (such as blackberrys, and iPhones) are the size of laptop batteries and smaller. Even i
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He probably fell after it exploded. Unfortunately, the article's not too clear on that.
"He sustained an injury that is similar to a burn in the left chest and his ribs and spine were broken," Yonhap news agency quoted Kim as saying.
"It is presumed that pressure caused by the explosion damaged his heart and lungs, leading to his death," it quoted him as saying.
I'll grant you that where they slipped it in is confusing, but the doctor doesn't mention the ribs or spine.
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I have to agree with you analysis, except which occurred first? Was the phone smashed in the fall causing the burning battery, or did a burning battery cause the fall.
It would be very easy to fall 50 feet onto the cell phone, but unless the cell phone was trapped against his body by something stronger than his ribs, or flew 50 feet away, even if it was hydrogen that went nuclear in their, it would have had to throw pieces of the phone a long ways to balance this force nee
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=Smidge=
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Note that I said energy density. This takes into account the volume, and cell phone batteries are rather small. So a cell phone battery will have a lot less energy than a grenade, just because it is smaller.
A quick google search turned up this link. Search down for the word "grenade": http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2007/2/28/20539/1486 [fieldlines.com]
OK. I admit that this is not an authoritative source. But, look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density [wikipedia.org]
The energy density of some explosives is about twice (when compared on terms of weight, not volume) that of a Lithium-ion battery. Once you add the weight of the metal around the explosive, it seems reasonable.
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Also, one of my pet peeves with 'snopes' is that they say that cell phones can't/don't cause gasoline vapour to explode [snopes.com], however their analysis and science behind the statements is based on the theory that the only way for this to happen is for the radio signals to cause some sort of spark.
However we all know that improperly charged NiCd and Lithium ion batteries can explode by themselves - what happens if your cell phone explodes when you are at the gas pump filling your card with gas?
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Both assume that you're pretty sloppy with the nozzle. Like Zoolander sloppy. There's supposed to be a vapor hood over it for pollution reduction, which would also reduce the fuel in the air around the noz
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I'd hate to be next to a gas station when there's a thunderstorm. I'm amazed that they don't all go popping like firecrackers every summer.
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The phone battery failed causing him to fall or get in the way of something, resulting in the broken ribs and spine.
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He fell or was stuck, resulting in the broken ribs and spine. The impact caused the phone battery to fail.
2 seems far more likely than 1. Having a battery blow up in a shirt pocket and leaving a burn on my chest is not going to break my spine. An explosion in my shirt pocket that is powerful enough to break my spine is also going to blow my chest tissue off, blow my ribs into my lungs and heart, and do a lot of other damage.
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[Sigh] And we don't even get photos of space alien offspring or a page three girl.
This is the second such fatality this year. (Score:4, Interesting)
At the time, this was the sixth documented cell phone explosion in two years for China.
As I pointed out in another post, an 1100 maH battery packs more than enough energy to kill a man, especially by injury to the heart. In rare cases even a baseball striking the chest can result in cardiac arrest. An exploding cell phone could pack a considerable wallop, maybe not enough to kill you if you had it on your hip, but certainly enough to kill you if you carried it on your chest.
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There's no way a LiPo cell in plastic packaging could explode with considerable force.
I build my own RC airplane batteries. I have right now 50 x 2400mAh cells at home. I have experimented shorting fast discharging cells. I have tried puncturing them. I have tried over charging them. I have tried deforming them. Yes, you get spectacular fireworks, but no explosions in conventional containers.
If I _wanted_ to explode one, I probably could. But I would seal the cell in sharpnel grenade style iron shell or something...
PS. Discard your Li* battery if it ever puffs even slightly or gets a visible deformation from a shock. Damaged Li*'s are unstable.
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well that just isn't me.
You're used to wearing less
And now your house is a mess
And of for me, I fear...
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More from the Oldboys school?
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"An LG official confirmed its product was involved in the accident but said the company would not comment directly on the accident because the c
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I would have gone for something a little more clever before sending the detonation command:
PT: "Hello?"
M: "deadpalestinianterroristsayswhat"
PT:"What?" KA-BOOM!
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Think of a firecracker. If it explodes, there won't be heat damage to nearby objects. However if you take the powder out and light it, it will burn for a long enough period of time to cause thermal damage. Same thing here - the majority of the energy was thermal and not kinetic.
Dan East
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That said, LG is my 3rd least favorite company, right behind Sony and Microsoft, as I had an LG phone with horrible factory defects. I returned it for a replacement, and the replacement was worse.
So I'm conflicted in defending these guys, but I don't think this one was LG's fault.
Come to think of it, my least favorite device would be a Sony laptop running Windows, powered by an LG battery (shudder)
-mcgrew
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Thanks for the great link. If you do failure analysis you would quickly spot from the photos that the phone didn't explode. In an explosion material is ejected at high speed. In other words, large parts of the phone should be missing, ejected with great force. The shirt has a burn. The phone shows some swelling and is a melted lump. There was no high energy explosion associated with this phone that could have cracked ribs.
Either the man fell and damaged the ba
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differences (Score:5, Insightful)
"Exploding cell phone battery may have killed South Korean man: officials"
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"Exploding Cell Phone Battery Kills"
Can anyone spot the difference in the meanings?
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So maybe to you those headlines mean to different things to me they mean one thing: someone somewhere thinks a cellphone battery killed someone.
I'm inclined to think that person is an idiot.
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The difference: (Score:2)
Go read some boring news site like cnn for the fake objectivity you treasure so much.
Only burned his chest, but broke his spine? (Score:5, Insightful)
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What? Was his walkie-talkie made out of foam, or something?
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In a Related Story (Score:3, Funny)
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I know what happened (Score:5, Funny)
Shouldn't that be "allegedly kills"? (Score:2, Insightful)
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Yes. Or "apparently kills." Saying the cellphone battery killed the man -- without a disclaimer word such as "apparently" or "allegedly" -- sets Slashdot up for a libel suit from the cell phone manufacturer if they lose sales as a result of the /. article and investigation finds it wasn't the cell phone battery.
This is one good reason why anyone who calls himself a journalist should know one of the major wire services' stylebooks, e.g., the Associated Press Stylebook, inside and out. It's handy for lit
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Fan? (Score:5, Funny)
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To me, that passage reads like the US government issuing a report stating that people should not go to Lover's Lane because visits to makeout points lead to a disproportionate number of incidents wher
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Super-cool (liquid nitrogen style) a twelve-gauge slug bullet-mold full of water, get ice-slug.
Put ice-bullet in 12-gauge shell on top of the black-powder and primer. Put in shotgun. Shoot this guy at point blank range, maybe even shoot him through his cell phone.
Burn marks on the dead body, shattered rib/spine, no bullet (it melts pretty quick.)
Blame it on the cell phone.
(And yes, I'm for hire.)
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I really doubt this (Score:5, Insightful)
Much, much more likely is that he was struck by something large, that broke his back and ribs, and also crushed the cellphone, rupturing the battery compartment and making the battery melt from short-circuiting itself.
People killed by dynamite blasts don't have broken vertebrae, even when the shock wave has torn their hearts loose from their arteries.
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I've had dates like that.
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The human body has some really squicky failure modes.
Beating out of your chest (Score:3, Funny)
Laptop batteries, and now cell phone batteries? Just wait until pacemaker batteries start to explode..
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http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/Miscellaneous/pacemaker.htm [orau.org]
He was found in a quarry... (Score:2, Informative)
It is also possible that he was struck by a piece of heavy equipment, which, in addition to breaking his spine and ribs, also ruptured the cell phone battery. The ruptured battery then shorted out and melted.
I find it very difficult to believe that a cell phone battery could contain sufficient pressure break a person's spine and ribs. Unless, of course, said battery was packed with explosives. (And yes, this has been done before - by the Israelis).
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It is probably flamebait (Score:2)
First clue, no link to prove it. Second clue, totally unrelated to the story. Third clue, wrapping explosives around a cellphone won't do shit. Fourth clue, cellphones as part of a remote detonator system have been used widely, by terrorists. They are highly unreliable, why should one of the most advanced military forces use it? There are better methods.
It is probably flamebait because of the way he mentions it. Trying to inject an unrelated matter into the discussion.
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Actually, I was under the impression that the Israelis were proud of the fact that they killed a person with this technique. I mentioned it because I anticipated that there would be those who would claim that a cellphone was too small to contain enough explosive to kill anyone, not because I wanted to start an Israeli-Palestinian flame fest.
Hmmm... But now that I think about it, is it possible to suicide-bomb an internet discussion? Could someone flame in such a flagrant manner as to destroy their kar
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If you asked me, in absence of any other evidence, whether such an explanation were likely, I'd say off the cuff, no. If the injuries were consistent with an exploding cell battery, if there were no other injuries, and if the circumstances in which he was f
I've heard this one! (Score:5, Funny)
Also today (Score:5, Funny)
Police have a sony laptop in custody.
Virus (Score:2)
Juche.jar
Murder? (Score:2)
This is just silly. The guy got killed, and his phone got smashed too.
Bruce
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Remote exploit (Score:4, Funny)
Five minutes later, government denies it has *ever* heard of such a thing, and it would never do it, even if it knew how.
Five minutes later, the reporter who broke the story dies in a mysterious cell phone explosion.
Note to Manufacturing (Score:2)
Take the semtex out of the battery casing and blame any problems on China. Sorry guys, but that's the wrong kind of plastic.
Note to Self (Score:2)
Yeah... Newton's Law (Score:5, Insightful)
So the exploded battery broke his ribs and spine, but couldn't muster enough force to rip the shirt pocket? Give me a break.
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Man in quarry dies and it was his phone? (Score:2)
Scratching Chin (Score:2)
It's much more plausible -- especially in a quarry, where there tend to be things like explosives, heavy plant and big lumps of rock -- that some other accident broke his ribs and spine, and did for his mobe at the same time.
Even scarier... (Score:2)
I would think more likely... (Score:2, Interesting)
Newton's Laws? (Score:2)
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not to mention fluid dynamics and pneumatics can do some very interesting thing with the force of a blast. This combined with possible poor nutrition / calcium deficiency could allow the breaks in the spine.
Not to mention, while mythbusters may be interesting they are _NOT_ very scientific, they are a TV show and they miss quite a few possibilities. That said much of what they d
Re:Newton's Laws? (Score:4, Insightful)
The momentum of the phone itself is enough. Go down to the range and practice shooting. Feel all that recoil, despite the fact that the bullet is completely unrestrained in the other direction, and a bullet has a lot less mass than the gun does.
Now in a powerful explosion, the phone's gonna shoot off pretty fast. In some cases fast enough to rip through the shirt once it gets far enough that it takes up all the slack. Which brings to mind the question: how strong was that shirt? If it was strong enough, perhaps some kind of reinforced shirt or something, the hoop stress would be supported by the guy's back, so the shirt itself could maybe be the thing that broke the spine, rather than the shockwave. If that's the case, then there is also an easy solution: breakaway pockets.
I'm not sure that an explosion powerful enough to break the spine would also break the shirt, because I don't know how powerful an explosion would do either. Ribs are pretty easy to crack, though. You can do it just by punching someone hard, and you will crack some if you ever have to do CPR.
Reproductive Interests (Score:2)
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Ah, that doesn't sound nearly as interesting.
LG Phone (Score:2)
*checks shirt pocket and sees an LG VX8350*
Ahhhhhh!!!!!!! *boom!*
having broken my spine before... (Score:2)
Man's sweat shorts phone contacts (considering how crappily those phones are built, no surprise) battery causes a burn, man falls and breaks his spine and ribs.
BTW, an EXPLOSION should be audible enough for anyone to hear. Even lithium batteries losing containment and burning make a nice so
Exploding cellphone in New Zealand (Score:3, Funny)
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Was he old?
Yes. However, he will no longer be using email.
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