Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Sample Preview 146
MojoKid writes "Intel took the wraps off a new Core 2 Duo desktop chip today, dubbed the E6750. Though this chip shares the same basic clock speed as the Core 2 Duo E6700 at 2.66GHz, this new processor also runs on a faster 1,333MHz Front Side Bus. The new chip's additional bus bandwidth affords it up to a 5% performance advantage over standard 1066MHz FSB-based Core 2 chips. However, what's perhaps more promising is this new chip's
overclocking head-room of up to 3.92GH and beyond on standard air cooling."
All on one page (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Good marketing? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Overclocking... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Good marketing? (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, it's all market related... but not how you think.
There is no such thing as a xyz GHz chip. They are all the same (except for caches on chip and so, but let's neglect that) The chips are all made from the same wafers and then are tested: those that are tested at high speeds and work, get sold als "high speed chips", the chips that fail are tested at lower speed and then, if they work, sold for that speed.
Now, that's fine in theory, the problem is that when the yields of high speed chips are very high. At that point Intel has a problem: their high-premium chips are plentiful and hence they should sell them at lower cost. Especially that they don't have lower speed chips that are for the middle and low-segment market. But wait! Why not just sell the chips that work at high speeds, but tell the customer that they are slower speed chips. The (average) customer will not test if it runs higher speeds, and frankly, it is not in their interest to do because they would lose warranty.
That's what really happens...
Xeon (Score:3, Informative)
Re:"Up to 5%..." (Score:3, Informative)
Er, that's exactly why I stick with Intel CPUs on quality motherboards (Gigabyte/ASUS) that use Intel chipsets and Crucial memory, despite the taunting of my AMD fanboy friends. Also, pay attention to your cooling and PSU (i.e. fit as many fans as you physically can fit in the case, and don't use the cheapest case/PSU combination you can find), as cutting corners here will severely impact your reliability. I'm not interested in overclocking, either. My oldest self-built Intel machine is 9 years old this summer and being used as a desktop by my dad. I also have a 5 year old Celeron machine that's on 24/7 as my MythTV box and firewall.
I know it's possible to build reliable AMD-based systems, but it seems to be harder work, and probably involves going with an Opteron on a Tyan or Supermicro board in order to be able to use an AMD chipset, rather than one of the third-party (e.g. VIA, SiS, ALI) chipsets.
Electrolytic capacitor reliability has been a problem throughout the electronics industry for the last 10 years or so, but even that should be less of a problem shortly. Gigabyte, for one, are introducing all-solid capacitor [gigabyte.com.tw] boards to eliminate this weak link in the chain.
Re:Megahertz myth (Score:3, Informative)
Turion - Series
64 - 64-bit CPU
X2 - Dual-Core
TL - Taylor Core
56 - Dunno.
Go ahead, OVERCLOCK to your harts content. (Score:4, Informative)
Now just overclock it back up to 2.6GHz.
You may want to do a little 2 corner testing (Voltage and Temp), just to make sure you are within stable regime.
As long as you dont overvoltage the chip, there is really no reason not to max out the clock rate. As soon as the CPU idles, it underclocks automatically anyway, so you get the boost only when you need it.
If you do any home video decoding, the difference is huge.
To make the point clear: You can burn out a power transistor if you run it too hard, but this is not possible on a CPU. It will hang long before it even gets close to be damaged. If the chip overheats and/or is driven at a too high clock, it just hangs. Reset and cool, and it is good as new.
Re:Good marketing? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:"Up to 5%..." (Score:3, Informative)
I have had zero issues with any series of boards I have used from them, and all of them with Linux no less.
Re:Good marketing? (Score:1, Informative)
Equilibrium price is what it is because it maximizes profit for both the buyer and the seller. If Intel could sell more chips at a lower price with the same costs, they would. The problem is two-fold: first, there's a "luxury" effect. Some buyers think that because they are spending more, they are getting more. These people (as a group) would buy more chips at $600 than at $400. It's a small effect, but it exists, and Intel knows this.
The second, and probably more important reason, is that those yields aren't STABLE and vary from product to product (and to a lesser extent, batch to batch). If Intel dropped the price on their chips to widen sales on their mid-range market, the high end market wouldn't exist when Intel went to the next generation of chips (which had much poorer yields). So in essence, Intel is sacrificing short-term profit for stability of their market.
IANASemiconductorEngineer, but this is a purely Economics driven decision.