Palm to go Linux 253
jetkins writes "The Melbourne Age reports that company officials announced Tuesday that Palm will move to a new Linux-based platform 'to help the company compete better.' The move was announced 'during a meeting with analysts in New York, where they also discussed the company's business strategy and refused to talk about recent rumors of a possible buyout.'"
Old News??? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Old News??? (Score:5, Interesting)
They've been on and off talking about it. What I don't get is why Palm Hardware never used the BeOS-based Palm Software OS. It was an ultra-modern OS, with features that WinCE could only dream of having, was better suited to handheld profiles, and yet Palm Hardware started making WinCE devices.
Ever since then, they keep pulling out this idea of a Linux handheld, then sticking it back in the box. Pull it out, put it back in. Pull it out, put it back in. Why don't they just go get their rights back from ACCESS so they use the bloody PALM OS?!?
Ok, rant over.
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They DID [palm.com]!
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The BeOS-based Palm OS is called Cobalt, and is going nowhere fast.
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There is no Cobalt (not that ever saw the light of day anyhow). Cobalt was supposed to be Linux based, not BeOS.
Access killed the Cobalt concept when they started developing their own ALP (Access Linux Platform).
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As for ALP, I have my doubts about it. I suppose we'll see if it fares any better than Cobalt.
Re:Old News??? (Score:4, Informative)
I forgot to mention: This is blatently incorrect. Cobalt was BeOS based. ALP is Linux based. Actually, to be specific, Cobalt had a new microkernel that was combined with various BeOS multimedia technologies in order to produce the end product.
http://www.osnews.com/story.php/6148/Interview-Pa
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Re:Old News??? (Score:4, Funny)
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Because palmos doesn't multi-task. This is why the palm version of the treo can't support a wifi card.
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What is interesting is the Palm (hardware company) is basically slapping ACCESS's face hard here - they are tired of waiting for a new and improvied Palm OS, apparently did not like
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What I don't get is why they don't use one of the 5 existing palmtop Linux environments, instead of wasting resources building their own from the ground up.
Oh, wait, Palm has lots of ex-80s-Apple people. Never mind.
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Re:Old News??? (Score:5, Informative)
Why does everyone keep repeating this? Cobalt was released as Palm OS 6.x [palminfocenter.com] and was available for licensing. The problem was that no Palm manufacturers licensed Cobalt for use in their devices. The lack of devices pretty much killed Palm OS 6 before consumers ever had a chance to evaluate it.
For those of you unaware, the reason for this dichotomy is because Palm Inc got tired of funding Palm OS and thus spun off PalmSource as a separate company. PalmSource created and released Cobalt, but they were not in a position to create any hardware for it. Palm Inc's failure to produce any hardware for Cobalt resulted in the other Palm manufacturers sticking with the classic Palm OS 5. (aka Garnet) PalmSource eventually went under and was acquired by ACCESS, a Japanese embedded software company.
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I think the reason everyone repeats it is because most folks familiar with BeOS would think it's crazy that no manufacturer would pick it up.
Mod parent up as informative (and sad) please.
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But this talking has only theoretical interest now. PalmOS is dead. Windows Mobile soon to follow. Symbian has won for the moment. Pity. I like my PDA with a relatively big hi-res screen and I can handle my phone and PDA as two separate devices thankyou. I don't want to talk with my PDA any more than I don't want to have CD
Re:Old News??? (Score:4, Insightful)
Convergence is not the problem. Poorly designed convergence is a problem. There is no technical reason why a phone shouldn't be a perfectly good music player. There's no reason for a PDA not to include phone capabilities. It's free pie. The hardware is basically the same stuff.
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Obviously, your mileage varies. But if you add up the bulk of a PDA plus a phone, that's a bigger load in your pocket than a "smartphone" (boy, is that ever a dumb word) and an optional Bluetooth headset.
I'm much more concerned about a high-resolution screen than a large one. For me, 320x320 (or 320x480) would be just fine.
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Yep.
Yes there is: it has the wrong interface.
Ditto.
Except for the interface.
Now, here's what really ought to happen: divide up the hardware by interface instead of by function. Stop putting storage and transceivers (e.g. cellular, wifi) in all the devices; instead put that stuff on a brick (without a display) that I can leave in my pocket, and then give me a dumb terminal-like touchscreen (that's as thinner than a PDA), a headset, and maybe a calculator watch-like device for when the touchscreen is unnecessary. Then hook it all together with Bluetooth or wires or something. That's how "convergence" should be!
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You are aware that you're sitting in front of the most multi-function device ever conceived of by Man, right?
Which is fine, because I'm (as you say) sitting. When I'm leaving a meeting and need to call someone to tell them that I'm leaving early/late, I really don't want to have to negotiate a bunch of menus to pull up my address book to tap somebody's number to make the call. Or if somebody calls me to get somebody else's contact info, I could do without telling them "Hold on...", then searching for the info, then reciting some of it, pull the phone away from my ear to look at the screen, memorize the next lin
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Just Today.
Linux OS by the end of the year. Maybe they are serious.
None of my niggers steal watermelons. (Score:2)
Good job.
Handhelds and PDF? (Score:2, Insightful)
Currently, I have documents in excess of 200MB abd would like to read them while on the go. Could a slashdotter help me out thanks. If one can go ahead and recommend a model, thay
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Currently, I have documents in excess of 200MB abd would like to search for them while on the internet. Could a slashdotter help me out thanks. If one can go ahead and recommend search engine, thay would even be great.
Re:Handhelds and PDF? (Score:5, Insightful)
I've owned a Treo 300, 600 and 700. I've read PDF's on all of them.
HOWEVER: It is not easy. The best is the 700. The high-res screen (320x320) makes a big difference. But even then, you're talking about using a device that has a screen that's 2 inches x 2 inches to try to read a document formatted for 8.5 x 11. The whole idea of a PDF is to preserve precise paper-based formatting. Working with that on a handheld is awkward at best.
Your best option is to convert the PDF to text and read the text on the PDF, using some sort of eReader (Plucker [plkr.org] or ,A HREF="http://www.isilo.com/">iSilo come to mind). I read lots of PG [gutenberg.org] material that way, as well as IBM Redbooks [ibm.com] that I've converted to text.
Re:Handhelds and PDF? (Score:5, Informative)
Well, there's PalmPDF [metaviewsoft.de], which I've had reasonable success with on my Treo 650. PDFs contain their own fonts so that's not an issue, really. My Treo doesn't have a case and seems to be holding up pretty well, even after I've dropped it a few times (and my kids have dropped it a few more times). Works pretty well, though with only a 320x320 screen, there's only so much you can see at a time. You'd probably want one with a bigger screen (e.g. 320x480 ones exist), and as much RAM and as fast a processor as possible.
I make too many phone calls with it, but I use its PDA and viewing functions quite a bit every day, and battery life is fine. Don't think I've ever gone below 75% charge (I plug it in every night).
I can't say that I've worked with 200MB PDFs, though. I think ~10MB is the biggest I've messed with. And someone else will have to tackle Windows or Linux-based platforms. However, I've heard generally good things about the Nokia 770 - it's basically a small Linux box with an 800x480 screen...
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Great move for them. (Score:3, Funny)
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Great but.... (Score:2, Insightful)
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In short. Linux on a PDA is a huge success for Linux but is really no better for everyday linux users unless we get proprietry stuff like Tomtom, RealPlayer, Flash available for it (not completely unlikely).
You mean something like the Nokia N800 [nokiausa.com], which comes with Opera and Flash, works with a wide range of bluetooth GPS units, including Navicore [navicoretech.com] and TomTom, and has a freely available Rhapsody client [realnetworks.com]?
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Yes, it was designed for Windows users. That is evident by the the security [syr.edu] of the original release. no root password + an ftp server that binds to all interfaces (and can't be disabled without killing the graphical environment) == instant fun!
Reid
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Which is what the parent was complaining about. If you go the Nokia route, though, these are available.
interesting++ (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't know if there is already an unofficial palm Linux, but having it officially sanctioned would be a good thing.
Hell, I'm tempted to get one now just to have some coding fun, seriously.
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Actually, there's been plenty of developer [palmopensource.com] attention [freewarepalm.com] paid to Palms already. Thanks to the head start, I think it still has more apps available for it than Windows handhelds. This despite the fact that developing for PalmOS is at best quirky and at worst painful.
But Palm is pretty much in the smartphone business alr
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That's why I want a USB jack. That way I need only one cord for everything.
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It's unlikely that palm will have included the driver for your device in their kernel, so you'd pray they make the driver module source available so you can recompile.
Re:interesting++ (Score:4, Insightful)
Both are awesome, and honestly do thigns that all other PDA's dream of. But it all comes down to one simple fact.
The biggest buyers of PDA's are executives and they dont care to run a SSH session, sniff wifi packets, watch movies, or hack the planet... they want complete integration with their outlook application and email.
and they chose blackberry because it's the only item that has the complete integration that works right. (not that I'm a fan of the blackberry, but adoption and useage of it is way WAY greater than pocket windows and palm put together.)
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About time... (Score:4, Informative)
My 650 will freeze for up to 20 seconds, at least once a day.
I have friends who own the Palm version of the 700 and these do some very weird things. They reboot themselves constantly, email is very flaky, syncing to Mac computers is so-so at best. Basically syncing is a crapshoot.
I find this to be a good thing and I hope the linux version will be a more stable OS than Palm.
Any cell phone that doesn't have me wishing to toss it through a window after 1 month of initial use, someone tell me, I'd gladly buy it.
I'd love to get a symbian phone but Verizon doesn't have it. I loathe Verizon. I was a t-mobile customer and I really miss the GSM phones. I think once my contract ends with Verizon I will go back to t-mobile or cingular.
Re:About time... (Score:4, Interesting)
As far as syncing is concerned, we use the 650's and the 700p's to sync through the phone network to our internal linux server. It updates their client contacts, the employee directory, and their personal contacts nearly flawlessly. It's not too hard to do with pilotsync and python/tcl/perl/whatever. We use tcl here, and the code to run the sync (connect to postgres, wrapper for pilotsync api calls, etc) is 474 lines of code, and the code to manage and initiate incoming syncs is 6.
Wonderful Triple OS strategy (Score:4, Insightful)
This is Palm's management clutching at straws.... what was that comment about the iPhone from the Palm CEO? Sad to see a once pioneering company being run over a once beleaguered company.
RIP Palm... here lies the Filofax of the late 90's.
-S
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However, one thing is clear: the days of basic PIM functions being worth competing in are over. There just isn't enough profit. Handheld devices have to compete as phones, platforms, or both.
There are three really great things about going Linux. First, it's for practical purposes Unix. This means a classical development paradigm. For skilled develope
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Re:Wonderful Triple OS strategy (Score:5, Insightful)
The closest thing to a mobile RAD right now is Visual Studio targeting the compact framework.
The problem with mobile apps is not laying out screens. In fact, I think sound UI designs don't fit into the VB form model at all, and not just because they conflate business and presentation logic, a philosophy I agree with but am not doctrinaire over. It's just too easy to paint a form which works very well on a desktop or laptop that is awkward on the PDA; the natural tedency in such cases is to blame the PDA form factor, not inappropriate design.
But the biggest problem of all is how the mobile app fits into the entire information "ecosystem". What does the app really need to accomplish, and what information does it need to do it. While this is true of any app, mobile applications are different, and in my experience much more easy to make errors of judgment in.
Remember the days of horrible flash abuse on the web? Now imagine a world where most people had never seen a better model than that.
No, what the mobile app field needs is an influx of ingenuity. There have been some impressive efforts at enabling less skilled developers to field mobile applications, this is not a viable growth strategy until those developers have well worn application models that they are copying.
WRT to Linux, while I don't believe in one size fits all, I think its clear we aren't talking about anything like any of the common distros. We're talking about a different user interface on top of the Linux kernel. I doubt we'll see X for example. The user will have no idea he is using Linux. A properly configured Linux kernel should be a very good choice for a modern PDA, given the computing power and resources available, and the requirements. It might not be the best choice for a real time embedded system with much greater resource constraints.
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Which sucks, because NO ONE did a PIM UI as well as Palm. Everyone else takes crap that was mediocre even on the desktop and then tries to scale it down.
Re:Wonderful Triple OS strategy (Score:4, Interesting)
That's what's really behind convergence. If you're going to buy a lot of things you don't need all that much, its very inefficient to buy them more than once.
Given modern technology, PDAs should be one step up from disposable. If you drop your PDA or lose it, you go to the drug store, grab a new one, sync and go.
The 500 series is just about right with one proviso: it should be possible to dial your phone wirelessly from them. It might be nice to be able to browse the web, but that could go in Cheap But Highly Useful PIM v 2. If you could buy something that useful for $49, you probably would. If you could buy it for $19.99 you almost certainly would. Multiple PIM ownership would be common. You'd probably even pick one up if you forgot yours at home.
It is all a ploy, I tell ya (Score:2)
But, kudos to Palm to being able to admit their own ho
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http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum45/81.htm [webmasterworld.com]
http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/rees/pilot/ [umich.edu]
This may already be too late.... (Score:2)
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Palm would do well to reexamine the whole concept of the PDA interface if the do end up changing the OS. Don't try to do what everybody else does, don't try to make it just like a laptop, but smaller. Just do what you do simply and well.
Apple's got the right idea with iPhone (well, except for possi
Eh. (Score:2)
The Zaurus was firmly marketed at the Asian market, and the Nokia Internet Tablets are marketed at the western market. I think the Zaurus was successful for its time in its intended market, but couldn't do well in the US/Europe (although it may have done better had the company actually sold the SL-C3xxx series
Article has no information (Score:5, Informative)
For those who don't know, several years ago Palm split into PalmOne, the hardware side, and PalmSource, the OS developers. Since then, PalmSource has been bought by Access Ltd, and PalmOne has renamed themselves Palm, Inc. PalmSource's PalmOS 6, aka "Cobalt", was never used in a production PDA. After PalmSource was bought by Access, it was announced that future PalmOS releases would be based on Linux, with binary compatibility for previous PalmOS apps.
Unfortunately, Palm, Inc.'s website doesn't mention anything about Linux in either the press release section or the Developer section. And Access released the Access Linux Platform 1.0 two months ago. TFA does say that Palm, Inc. will once again have control over their own OS. This seems to indicate that they have spurned the ALP. If that is the case, one has to wonder how they will offer backwards compatibility, given that the PalmOS IP is owned by Access. Perhaps the permanent license they acquired gives Palm the right to do this kind of thing.
On the other hand, I don't see how they would have any less control if they just used ALP, given that most of it is GPL, and the rest is the same backwards compatibility code that they will need anyways.
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The latter, according to CNet:
http://news.com.com/Palm+touts+stability+of+Linux
For me, Palm died when PalmOS went away (Score:5, Interesting)
There seemed to be a lot of hobbyist development, too. People found ways to make the Palm keep track of what they wanted. As I recall, the Palm database format encouraged a lot of interchangeability and standardization. Mind-mapping and outlines were easy as pie and quick to bring up, so I rarely lost any ideas.
When they moved with Windows CE (or whatever they called the mobile variant that week), I threw up my hands. The hardware wasn't suited to it, and there were few -- if any -- replacements for the apps I cared to use. As far as I know, all the good stuff went the way of the dodo.
So I guess my question is: how does the move to Linux bode for developers? Will there be compatibility with any of the classic Palm OS or Windows CE apps, or will we once again have to build from scratch?
Re:For me, Palm died when PalmOS went away (Score:4, Informative)
That's the plan (Score:2)
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Phones these days have specs like a desktop PC from ten years ago - except for the screen, which is physically smaller and lower resolution. Classic PalmOS was very well suited to handheld devices of 7-10 years ago: small memory footprint, very lightweight and CPU-efficient. The new devices are much, much more powerful, and Palm's not using that power effectively at all. The current hardware can accommodate a richer environment
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There can be only one!!! (Score:4, Interesting)
Some of us need our blackberries.
We all want our music.
Rather than juggle all three, there is no reason why the cell phone can't do everything and more. After all a computer, whether it is in a P.C., Cellphone, or what ever is still a computer.
IMHO, Palm is wrong, they are coming into the system from the wrong direction, they MUST focus on the phone first and most, then blackberry, then MP3 player. Deliver a package to Verizon, Cingular, Orange, etc.
This is why iPhone will do better.
Re:There can be only one!!! (Score:4, Insightful)
I've gone from palm to windows mobile to a smartphone and finally to a blackberry. In going from platform to platform I have had to make concessions and sacrifices for the sake of convenience with my latest move I just ditched all the functionality for decent email and phone support. The integration push has killed the pda, Palm and MS just dont know it yet.
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I guess you've never used a UTStarcom (Sprint\Verizon PPC\XV) 6700. Everything the iPhone can do (except the retarded accelerometers to rotate the screen) and a real keyboard. Sure, it comes with Windows Mobile, but I can partition a miniSD card, change some settings in the device bootloader, and actually run linux on it.
Quality hackable devices for enthusiasts are few and far apart, and the 6700 is definitely very high up in hackability for fun and productivity. And how
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I don't need to carry my music with me everywhere, so I could only use two: the phone and the PDA. And I don't want a combo device. I want the display on my PDA to be largish, and my phone to be smallish. You can't do both in a way that will suit me. Sure the phone can be a acceptable address book (read only), but I have no desire to use it as a calendar, memo pad or any other PDA application. When I don
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So, no new Palm PDAs for another year. :( (Score:2)
Their current models are already two years old. That's an eternity in the gadget market. And they weren't exactly cutting edge when they were new.
Talk about taking your customers for granted!
Another Article (Score:3, Insightful)
I'd call your attention to the transition chart in the center.
Does this really make sense to anybody? Has the business market shown any real preference for the Windows Mobile platform over, say, RIM's BlackBerry?
There are two things that drive MS OS hegemony in IT departments: (1) management complexity and (2) the idea that they will develop and maintain apps internally. However, once you introduce mobile devices into the mix, it really doesn't matter what OS they run from a management perspective. The dominant question is how complex is to integrate the device into corporate infrastructures, a game at which RIM excels and Palm fails. Also, successful mobile apps developed in house by IT departments are rare. There are too many complexities and idiosyncracies. Working in the field, it's a lot like developing web applications would be if there weren't a massive industry trying to train us and sell us tools to make the job easier.
I doubt the Windows Mobile platform is really intended to play the market role outlined there. They have some other reason to have it in the lineup.
Old news? (Score:2)
But frankly, as it stands now, I can easier see Palm to go RIP rather than Linux.
And Linux - doesn't that mean that Linux based "PalmOS" should be GPL?
ACCESS PalmOS Linux, or Something Else? (Score:2)
Upgrades for existing? (Score:2)
PocketPC is better than Palm - well, until now (Score:3, Insightful)
I've thought about installing Linux on my iPAQ 3670, since Compaq actually used to install Linux on the iPAQ for customers, but now that PocketPC is so old it's doubtful that I'd be able to get it up and running again if the flash fails, and the iPAQ oldtimers are not with HP/Compaq any more. Even though I never use the 3670 any more (I have an hx2795 now) it's nice to know that I have the option to use it if the new one fails.
The down sides of the PocketPC:
- Linux will not mount it as a mass storage device (I work around it by using ssh/SCP over Wifi but as you know SCP is slow)
- SynCE is a pain in the ass to set up
- It is not user-repairable (software-wise): HP's daylight savings time fix DID NOT WORK. Were it Linux, I'd be able to easily fix it myself.
- Microsoft still insists that a close/kill button is unnecessary
- The memory model is still lame
- Vendor support (for updates, bug fixes, etc.) is weak to nonexistent
if Palm switches to Linux, here is what it would require for me to buy it:
- Let me customise the desktop
- multimedia should meet or exceed the high end PocketPCs (such as the hx2795)
- Comply with the GPL. Release the source, let us modify it. Don't DRM the appliance so we can't make fixes.
- Make syncing with Linux a high priority
- Make it mountable as a mass storage device
- get Teletype or TomTom to port their GPS products (I know, TomTom appliances run Linux)
Multimedia and GPS are what attracted me to the PocketPC in the first place. Before then, people would GIVE me PDAs, and I wouldn't use them.
It'll take a lot to get me to buy a Linux PDA, because Microsoft has largely gotten it right. I hate desktop Windows, I hate server editions of Windows, and I hate Microsoft's anti-customer policies as of late, however, they got one thing almost completely right and that is the PocketPC. Every Linux PDA I've seen so far has been limited either by low volume (so little support), weak hardware, or really lame GUI designs and limited I/O options.
Palm lost the plot years ago. (Score:2)
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There's two 700 smartphones. The 700w, a Verizon Wireless exclusive, and the 700p. I've had 3 clients return the 700w's and get 680/700p's. I've had only a couple of them keep the 700w's.
I've used a 700p myself for nearly a year. Much more reliable than the 600p it replaced. I've been *very* happy with it...
Re:Are we going to be able to see the source code? (Score:4, Interesting)
Given Palm's history of being developer friendly, it will probably be possible to flash the PDAs with custom ROMs with all proprietary code stripped. Depending on the exact terms, it may even be possible to create a custom ROM with proprietary backwards compatibility code included.
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Re:Nowhere else for Palm to go... (Score:4, Insightful)
Because somehow Microsoft doing this inspired Linus Torvalds to create a MINIX-like free kernel for research purposes?
Or because Windows made x86 popular (rather than the other way around)? Yet I still don't even see how that would've mattered one way or the other to the creation of Linux.
Not the creation...the propogation... (Score:4, Informative)
The key word in my post was "cheap". Linus's little hobby may not have taken off it wasn't easy for college-age folks like me to buy the components for a cheap PC and run either Linux or Windows on it in the early 1990s. A lot of the people who helped Linux (and its programs) get going couldn't afford a second PC, or were happy a second PC was cheap when they did get one.
So...although Windows may not have helped the creation of Linux as a hobby, it certainly helped make Linux accessible to more people by making PC hardware cheap.
Let me know if you need more help...
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It is alright to say that cheap hardware came due to the unbundling of soft/hardware. It is also fine to say that ch
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Technically, I suppose you are correct, since none of us can say with any certainty what *would* have happened if Microsoft had never come to be. However, as things played out, you cannot deny that it was Microsoft that played *the* pivotal role is unbundling the software from the hardware. DR and others may have been there first, but it was Microsoft that actually pulled it off (with a large dose of help from IBM, whose arrogance
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What, there was no computer industry, no competition between diverse new products, no standards activity, no open source software? I was there, man. The industry was thriving, there were dozens of different microprocessors hitting the market, vendors were moving in droves from proprietary operating systems to Unix, the price/performance trend had never been better, every University department was getting its own computer and building its own
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Ehrm, no. IBM brought the hardware platform and Microsoft brought the software. IBM left the system architecture open, and clones soon appeared, all of them more or less capable of running the same software. The PC evolved without Microsoft, and it would have been there even without them. The software would have been different, but it would certainly exist.
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Yeah, I don't get the "thank MS for cheap PC's" claim either. Cheap PC's were going to happen with or without MS.
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That's a really interesting notion, but I don't think it goes far enough. Back in the day, "IBM-PC compatable" really meant "Lotus 123 compatable", and/or "Microsoft Flight Simulator compatable". The only serious hardware need for *NIX is a hardware memory manager, which was basically in place with the 386, and certainly complete by the time of the Pentium. We rea
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It was the high volume of PCs (due in part to MS enabling the lower-cost clones) that provided a business case to create the 386. As you correctly point out, pre-386 x86 processors couldn't support Linux.
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Mod parent Informative (Score:2)
Too little too late? (Score:2)
I am hopeful that they're really going to make