Scientists Powering Batteries with Soda, Tree Sap 216
BobB writes "St. Louis University researchers have concocted batteries fueled by almost any kind of sugar, from tree sap to flat soda, and that could be used to power everything from computers to cell phones. Their thinking: If sugar can jack up the human body, why not electronics?"
Sugar's nasty property #1: (Score:4, Insightful)
Jacked up. (Score:3, Insightful)
2.59/battery, anyone? (Score:2, Insightful)
Stupid. (Score:5, Insightful)
At 9 kilocalories per gram to carbs' 4, fats kick the crap out of carbohydrates with regard to energy density. Strikes me as odd.
Skepticism (Score:5, Insightful)
The other issue here is size. Even if they can pump out enough juice, they need the batteries to be small to be useful in most modern applications. The batteries for most electronic devices need to very small. There might be a niche market for this sort of thing, but I am very skeptical it is going to make any sort of splash in the consumer electronics field.
My thinking: (Score:1, Insightful)
Not a bad thing either. (Score:4, Insightful)
Sugar is sticky and it can jack up electronics. I don't think that's a good thing...
Unless your blood is the nearest source of sugar.
Nannobots, Finally !!! (Score:1, Insightful)
One of the obstacles is how to power them.
The answer - make them absorb blood shugar!
The possibilities are endless.
On a lot less futuristic note, think of a pacemaker that you don't have to
recharge every so often.
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probably a matter of practicallity (Score:5, Insightful)
Fats are not water soluable, more complex chemically and thicker in general. I would think coming up with a stable reaction for the entire amount of fat in the tank would be difficult since they are not water soluable (you would need to mix them in a lipophilic solution) and they are thicker. I would imagine they would be more diffult to handle, especially if the idea is to make they reusable.
Then again, it been awhile since I've done any chemisty. Sounds like an interesting concept.
Way to go SLU (graduated from med school there)!
Re:Jacked up. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Obvious: (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:So sugar gets more expensive. (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes but you are missing the upside of this one. Unlike corn, sugar comes from a variety of sources, many of which are cheaply producable or directly obtainable from nature. For instance, the battery has been shown to use tree sap. You might say, well there's not enough tree sap, yes. But there's an abundance of sugar. Corn is one thing, not only must you grow the corn but you must break it down in a specific process for it to become fuel. This, essentially, means that you don't need to do that process. This is the ability to directly use some food products as fuel without additional conversion. Given how cheap food production has become, I'd say that's not bad.
Re:My thinking: (Score:3, Insightful)
How uneducated do you have to be to write an article about alternative power storage technologies in which you write the following?
Like, uh, what other fuel cells [howstuffworks.com] are these that use enzymes again?
Re:Sugar's nasty property #1: (Score:3, Insightful)
I think for the enzymes to work properly, the sugar would need to be dissolved in water, anyway.
Internal human medical uses (Score:3, Insightful)
Build in a failsafe so that it doesn't reduce your blood sugar to below a critical level, so that you don't go into a hypoglycemic shock, and you're good to go. This would be really useful to diabetics to maintain their constant blood sugar level at a more physiologic normal value. "Crap - my blood glucose is 250. Anyone need their phone charged?"
Re:Stupid. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:2.59/battery, anyone? (Score:4, Insightful)
If one person does it and it is biodegradeable, it isn't a problem.
If 300Million people do it, you have an environmental disaster.
Re:2.59/battery, anyone? (Score:3, Insightful)
Is it an environmental disaster when 300M people take a shower everyday? Wash dishes? Do laundry? Flush a toilet? What about when a city with a hybrid or combined waste-water/rain-water sewage system gets hit by a storm? You have minor problems here and there, but rarely anything I'd care to qualify as an environmental disaster.
You could focus on the non-water byproducts, but how would that be any different from the detergents, chemicals, and biological waste that already gets dumped into sewer systems all over the world every minute of every day? Half-time at major sporting events is a bigger concern, and that worry proved to be nothing more than an urban legend.
Re:2.59/battery, anyone? (Score:3, Insightful)
If one person does it and it is biodegradeable, it isn't a problem. If 300Million people do it, you have an environmental disaster.
That does not necessarily follow. We have no idea what this biodegradable waste product IS. The article is short on details. Urine is also biodegradable, and produced by everyone on the planet, and as far as I can tell we're not in the middle of Urine Armageddon...