Bionic Eye Could Restore Vision 167
MattSparkes writes "A new bionic eye could restore vision to the profoundly blind. A prototype was tested on six patients and 'within a few weeks all could detect light, identify objects and even perceive motion again. For one patient, this was the first time he had seen anything in half a century.' The user wears a pair of glasses that contain a miniature camera and that wirelessly transmits video to a cellphone-sized computer in the wearer's pocket. This computer processes the image information and wirelessly transmits it to a tiny electronic receiver implanted in the wearer's head."
Implants for healthy people (Score:4, Insightful)
I hope there is a 'turn-off-and-see-through' option that lets you use the original organic hardware when you want.
It works even better if it is implanted in an infant, so that the brain can adapt to it as it grows. This will, of course, be considered child abuse when it is first done. In a century or two it will be considered abuse NOT to have it done for your kid.
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Actually, I hope implants aren't the only way. Just give me the wearable version. Our brains are highly evolved to make use of our eyes, so I doubt there's much to be gained by cutting open healthy people for direct access to nerves.
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Only if it looks like a banana clip [answers.com]!
Re:Implants for healthy people (Score:5, Insightful)
There's too much we don't know aobut infant vision to mess with the brains early development - although who knows what stuff like television is already doing to us. However, I think it would be better to have these for overlays and such - where it mixes both the incoming light and anything being fed in from the connection. SVGA seems a little low resolution wise - don't forget this is your whole field of vision. You'd want probably 4-5 times that at least to resolve floating screens and such in front of you.
Don't forget to add those aural implants for Dolby 600 channel sound!
Re:Implants for healthy people (Score:4, Interesting)
An interesting tidbit on this topic: Scientists have done experiments in cats where they've blocked all incoming light to the cat's eyes during early kittenhood. A portion of the visual cortex does not organize properly without this input, causing the cats to have permanent non-functional vision. A similar effect is seen in human children who are born with cataracts or develop them very shortly after birth.
(Hubel and Wiesel received part of the 1981 Nobel Prize in Physiology/Medicine for this work done through the 1960s and 70s.)
More experiments on kittens (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:More experiments on kittens (Score:4, Funny)
Cool! Next time I have kittens I know what I'm going to do....(evil laugh) heeeere kitty kitty kitty
Re:More experiments on kittens (Score:4, Interesting)
I had heard that the kittens could indeed not see vertical lines (or horizontal, depending on the environment in which they were raised) but that as soon as they were put in normal situations they learned to compensate almost instantly by tilting their heads. The way I heard it, if you put kittens raised without horizontal input and tested them, they couldn't see horizontal lines but that if you put them in a normal environment with a bunch of normal kittens, you couldn't tell the difference because the ones with the vision impairment were compensating.
I never did see the study, and have no background in vision research, so I couldn't tell you which version is true, but I'd be willing to guess that the kittens learned to compensate by tilting their heads. It just seems unlikely they wouldn't learn how to compensate.
Trillian
PS - sorry for using the word 'compensate' so much. I guess I'm compensating for something.
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2 cents,
QueenB.
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Fun trick though, seeing through (oh, I don't know) clothing for example.
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The optic nerve is actually a lot lower bandwidth than you would expect it to be; it has nothing like the capacity to send the amount of visual data you think you see. One of the biggest tricks your eye does is something a lot like run length encoding. It sends differences in light levels between adjacent cones,
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Re:Implants for healthy people (Score:4, Interesting)
Of course, the possibilities for mischief with such an implant are also endless. These things would be in high demand for poker games and high school locker rooms and about a billion other things that criminals and perverts will think up.
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That makes sense! I'd even go further and say than in a century or to it'd be abuse NOT to directly throw out your newborn in the trash and replace it with a robot toy!
Let's keep the discussion real. I also enjoy Ghost in the Shell series, it's very cool and
Re: implant considered child abuse (Score:2)
I doubt both claims, and I think it's a grave mistake, building pessimism into your expectations of people.
If a blind child can see again, nobody's likely to claim it was child abuse that led there. (unless the chip posed some health risk, but they must have tested in on animals first, right?)
On the other hand, if sony develops a new graphics chip in 20 yea
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The problem is, the signal is sent to the optic nerve according to the article -- which is already being used by your eyes if they are healthy. The signal from the camera would interfere the signal from your eye, effectively blinding it (probably). Therefore the current system is only useful to blind people who aren't using their optic nerve.
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I imagine that in the not too distant future some perfectly healthy geek will have one of these implanted. I'd seriously consider it when resolution gets to about 24 bit SVGA
Real life is more than a spec sheet of bits and resolutions. The average blind person, for whom there is no other resort than to try this would probably be very excited over this technology, at any "resolution".
And he would most likely punch you in the face for not valuing your (working) eyesight enough, to the extent that you are
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However, a 25 or 36 electrode version should be very possible. I don't see anyone
Interesting (Score:4, Funny)
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Bonus? More like curse. (Score:2)
Not when the MPAA finds out about it. Then they'll either force you to watch commercials or else send you C&D letters to make you stop seeing. Remember, bionic eyes clearly induce people to use them for watching copyright-violated material.
Canadians, who are a little smarter, will just assume that everyone's bionic eyes are used to watch infringing material and will charge a tax on bionic eye hardware and pay the industry a cut.
If we'r
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Trusted Sight (TM).
One technical problem to solve (Score:1, Funny)
I am looking forward to this (Score:4, Insightful)
Or more like (Score:2)
Because the joke is... you can't... you can't see well... er... yeah sorry.
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In Related News... (Score:1, Funny)
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Procedure shown on Apple Ad (Score:2, Funny)
Review (Score:3, Funny)
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On a more serious note:
It may sound a little conspiratorial, but I for one don't want everything I'm looking at to be transmitted wirelessly. Add some GPS and "they" will not only know exactly where you are, but they'll see exactly what you're doing.
On the "wireless" point... (Score:1)
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If the eye is already defunct, why not remove the eye and implant the camera? It could probably be incorperated into an artifical eye with out much problem. Circuits and cameras are already tiny and the power requirements can't be very high. (nerves deal in microvolts?) A wearable inductive recharger and you are good to go. Reattach the muscle and you could even look around. I can understand the external camera for the earl
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I imagine an external came
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Aaaarrrggghhh! If I hear that again my head will explode! It's right up there with marketing-types saying, "absolutely" every 12.7 seconds. "Good to go" is a military way of communicating, let's leave it with the military, please. "Absolutely", as used by PR/ad people is a suck-up platitude designed to imply total agreement while they are usually smiling and lying (or at the very least, deflecting a question to somewhere they want you to go).
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If the eye is already defunct, why not remove the eye and implant the camera?
The top reason is that the device interfaces with the ganglion cells in the retina, so they need to keep it.
Hacked Eye (Score:1)
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It has to be wireless for now, because having a port embedded in the skin isn't currently practical. However "they" have discovered that deer's antlers get tied into the skin because they have a highly convoluted surface, with a lot of area, and for some reason the skin is able to attach to this. This is the technology we need to perfect to have ports in the skin.
In t
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5140090.stm [bbc.co.uk]
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Whoa, so the matrix is real?
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You could get that right now if you wanted. Haven't you seen the scalp implants that let people mount metal spikes on their heads? Sort of a stainless-steel mohawk?
IMO it's not worth the trouble though. If the stud gets snagged on something when you're falling or moving fast for some other reason, you're going to do some serious damage to yourself.
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I'd prefer a fuel cell that runs off of the glucose and oxygen already present in the bloodstream...
=Smidge=
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I believe Neal Stephenson's "The Diamond Age" had a guy whose vision had been hacked by nanorobots to deliver a small add banner at the periphery of his vision.
I think, given the choice, wireless is OK for this stage. Wireless invaders will only attack if they're within signal range and they have the motivation. Microorganisms will invade regardless. Any type of surgery or major laceration puts you at risk for infection, and if you have wires running into your head then you have a canal for germs to get t
One step closer (Score:2, Funny)
Now if only the eye could make the cool bionic sound.
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Arr (Score:1)
Yeah, but does it (Score:1)
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Mr. La Forge (Score:1)
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I am sure you can get some even if you wore La Forge Goggles.
Babylon 5 (Score:2)
Ads via wireless? (Score:2)
Reminds me of a Neal Stephenson book, where some tiny, minor character killed himself since he got infected with some ad that played in his vision 24/7. It might have been about Korean roach motel, but it's been too long since I've read it.
Another approach (Score:1, Interesting)
No surgery and apparently it works. What you should see in front of you is converted to sound. Apparently it works great. I've heard a demo on the radio and it really sounds weird. It's different than sonar, which the blind use, in that light levels are converted to sound.
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a cellphone-sized computer in the wearer's pocket (Score:1)
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What could possibly go wrong :) (Score:2)
What could possibly go wrong
Sounds like a hacker's paradise (Score:1)
Tounge Eye (Score:1)
It's a camera that was on the blind persons head, and it sends information down so a thing in you're mouth that sits on your tongue, and the pixels on the tongue device move up and down and eventually you can recognise it as images.
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The sensing resolution on the tongue is way too low for processing visual data. A dog or cane would be just as useful for a blind person and they wouldn't end up attracting stares. Even with more research, Wicab is not going
Loonix (Score:1)
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Uh-oh (Score:1)
Nice glasses (Score:2, Insightful)
http://www.newscientisttech.com/data/images/ns/cms
http://www.newscientisttech.com/data/images/ns/cms
By the looks of things the signals going to be pretty small so I don't imagine it
would send much interference. But it might recieve a buch though if it has to be ulra
sensitive though. Oh well it's not like you need more than 30-40fps.
On the other hand what if you woke up, switched on your recie
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SeaLab 2021 (Score:1)
Hallucinogenic Code? (Score:1)
I wonder how the DEA/FDA would treat hallucinogenic code?
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It wouldn't be to hard to copyright the video stream either. You just got a letter from the MPAA asking for $3000 because you took your bionic eye to the movies and illegaly copied one of their films...
Old News... (Score:1)
I, for one, welcome our Bionic Eye wearing overlords.
Interesting, maybe I'll get one (Score:1)
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Probably in the same way that the brain handles everything else. Horribly to begin with, headaches, vertigo, vomiting. And a couple months later, you'll hardly notice it.
department (Score:2)
Star Trek Patent (Score:1)
Primitive (Score:2)
Wireless v Wired (Score:1)
This Should Be Free (Score:2)
I think for younger people (who have lost sight due to some premature condition or tragedy), this should be Government funded. I would respect a country's government who gave sight to it's citizens. No one should be blind.
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Can it shed a tear? (Score:2)
Cadmium sulfide (Score:4, Interesting)
Once this thing gets working well, use cadmium sulfide [wikipedia.org] in the receptors and you'd be able to see in a wider visual band than normal eyes. Infrared and ultraviolet would become "visible". You would see heat signatures in the dark, and have nightvision among other [wikipedia.org] things. [wikipedia.org]
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Operative word: "may"? (Score:2)
the new device _may_ [emphasis mine] be available commercially by 2009,
Guess I'll be impressed when I start seeing people in my neighborhood walking around with them.
Depends... (Score:2)
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Either way it is very easy to connect stuff to the body, it's just difficult to get it to react to the bodies electrical current