ATI Launches Radeon X1900 XT and XTX 95
Steve from HEXUS writes "ATI have done more than just boost clock speeds for their latest GPU; they've concentrated on boosting particular aspects of the GPU. This doesn't necessarily mean a boost in performance in all apps, however. HEXUS has a review: 'Even current synthetic benchmarks designed to show off theoretical rates in 3D hardware can have a hard time exploiting the tripling in fragment processing ability. That's not to say the performance increases at the same clocks as R520 are invisible. Clearly they're not without increases, especially at the higher resolutions, of up to 30% in the games we tested, clock-for-clock.'"
Wow (Score:3, Insightful)
Now, can someone track down pricing info for these cards?
Re:Wow (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Wow (Score:5, Funny)
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crap (Score:1)
Celeron 2.93ghz, 1gig DDR RAM, 256mb Raedon 9550 160gig Maxtor.
Guess I won't be getting one of these babies anytime soon.
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~D
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It's an ATi launch. So there will be prices, but the shipping date's the real mystery.
Re:Wow (Score:2)
This is completely unlike the X1800 launch where you could not find the card listed anywhere for over a month.
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Linux Drivers (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Linux Drivers (Score:3, Insightful)
How many apps are even using *part* of the current crop of GPUs?
Re:Linux Drivers (Score:1)
Windows Vista ??
Re:Linux Drivers (Score:1)
Re:Linux Drivers (Score:4, Informative)
When something really new comes out it takes at least 6 months+ for it to get filtered down at X-whatever level and at least a year for it getting to a distribution level. There are so many branches and fig leaves on the X tree now that even if ATI releases a source for any specific X-whatever it will be bloody useless to anyone but that specific X-whatever.
Just as an example - I looked at merging the changes for the recent crop of PCI Express Radeons from X.org into the debian sarge (Thy Last XFree86) driver and I simply had to set it aside. A few days job at least because in their infinite wisdom the X.org people have started merging things like DRM right into the code instead of separating them out. So as a result the source which was arcane before the split is now outright mindbending in some places. Code maintainability... Yeah... Right... Heard about it...
Grgghhhhhhhhhhh....
Re:Linux Drivers (Score:3, Insightful)
I hear the sound of a needle skipping... (Score:1)
What sort of graphics card do you need to play Tux Racer anyway?
Re:I hear the sound of a needle skipping... (Score:1)
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Touché! (Score:1)
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Baked beans on toast for the rest of the year then?
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Re:I hear the sound of a needle skipping... (Score:1)
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Re:Linux Drivers (Score:2)
True, if by "around the corner" you mean "last month [x.org]".
Re:Linux Drivers (Score:2)
I have a Radeon 9250 -- one of the last solidly-supported-with-an-open-source-driver cards out there. Definitely getting long in the tooth, though.
Hmmm... (Score:5, Funny)
I recognise those words, but this summary makes no sense...
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Why PC gaming sucks (Score:3, Funny)
OMG dudez, so like today the x1900xtx was released, and i was like, OMG! I can get 5more frames in the 26th pitch black hallway fo Doom 3, yo. so i called my dad in the Hamptons and he said he'd wire me the $700 for the new card so I can show off to Joey next door. he's got a lame nvidia and it is 3fps less than me in Far Cry, even tho i don play that game anymore and its already 2 years ol. lolz, j/k, nvidia is pretty good, but this x1900xtx is new and very expensive and therefor better and
Next up: the ATI Super-Mega-Ultra-X2000XTSTX (Score:1, Interesting)
Because it's shorter than 'Platinum Edition'... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Next up: the ATI Super-Mega-Ultra-X2000XTSTX (Score:2)
Along with forcing the consumer to memorize engineering names, you've got the blandness and graphics obsession of PC games, and now you know why PC gaming is on its way d
Re:Next up: the ATI Super-Mega-Ultra-X2000XTSTX (Score:1)
The way forward from here is plenty clear...next we'll have the X2000 SXTXX, then the even more EXTREME X2500XXXX XTXXSXXX, then the stage will finally be set for the arrival of total gaming nirvana...
The ATI X5XXX XXXXXTXXXXXXXXX, which will achieve triple the framerate of the previous generation, emit pleasing bursts of air freshener from the exha
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Theoretically synthetic artificial benchmark time (Score:2, Redundant)
If synthetic benchmarks can't show off theoretical rates, how is an actual benchmark with an actual rate going to exploit its processing abilities?
Clock-for-clock [time.gov] all time should be the same.
Site down (Score:5, Funny)
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HJ
Who cares? Stupid paper launches (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Who cares? Stupid paper launches (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Who cares? Stupid paper launches (Score:1)
$549 for the x1900xt
$649 for the x1900xtx (apparently the more x's, the better, and this one is XXX!!!)
Only this time it's available in retail... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Who cares? Stupid paper launches (Score:1)
Yes, and by that time a new generation of cards will be out which will leave your X1900 in the dust.
Sorry.
Mod parent down (Score:2)
Seriously people, stop modding the parent post up.
In case you missed it, this is not a paper launch, and this is not a card with only enough volume for reviewers. This is a real launch. You can buy this card now. ATI learned their lesson, and we should acknowledge that. Maybe it can finally start a trend away from paper launches in the industry.
Need a lil help? (Score:1, Funny)
Site down - Different Article (Score:2, Informative)
ATI Radeon X1900 Series Evaluation [hardocp.com]
Another Review You Can Actually Read (Score:3, Informative)
More Reviews (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=202&type=expe rt [pcper.com]
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=OTUz [hardocp.com]
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2006q1/radeon-x1 900/index.x?pg=1 [techreport.com]
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articl eid=777&cid=2 [hothardware.com]
http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/r580/ [beyond3d.com]
Re:More Reviews--Also ExtremeTech (Score:2)
Fast, Sure . . . (Score:1)
http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/35a796d8/5e 08eed6/ [carcino.gen.nz]
Re:Fast, Sure . . . (Score:1)
Hardware performance (Score:1)
- 10% performance loss because of the drivers
- 10% performance loss because of the SDK
- 10% performance loss because of you
The total performance loss will be ~30%. For other application this scenario is worse: Application (10%) > Framework (10%) > API (10%) > Kernel (10%) and this is no
More performance is nice,but how about raytracing? (Score:2)
Re:More performance is nice,but how about raytraci (Score:1)
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So... (Score:1)
what about the XTXXX? (Score:1)
AGP version? (Score:2)
Bruce
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