Infinium Phantom Lapboard Coming to PC? 176
JamesO writes to tell us that Infinium Labs has announced the release of their "Phantom Lapboard" for later this year. From the article: "Infinium Labs' Phantom game service is still to launch, despite claims years ago that it would appear at Christmas 2004, but this hasn't stopped the company from continuing with the system's development. One of the most talked about aspects of the system is its wireless keyboard and mouse combo called the Lapboard. Infinium Labs has decided that the Lapboard is so good that it will be released as a peripheral for PC users in quarter-two 2006. What makes the Lapboard unique is that the keyboard can be angled upwards to create a surface for the mouse to operate on underneath. The device is also wireless and can operate at a distance of up to 30 feet."
MouseBoard? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:MouseBoard? (Score:2)
also, woo, 4 days in and we have our first phantom story of the year!
Re:MouseBoard? (Score:2)
I think "Lapboard" is the hint on how to hold it.
Actually looks like a good idea, tired of using the coffee table for a mouse surface.
Not so hot (Score:2)
Mice are optical these days, and they work wonderfully on most fabric and leather surfaces: Just place a small optical mouse on the seat cushion beside you.
Awful slashdot article about a contrived gimmick.
What's the point (Score:3, Insightful)
Few Ideas (Score:4, Insightful)
-everphilski-
Re:Few Ideas (Score:3, Interesting)
I have a projector at home. I use it for both HDTV and have a computer connected to it. 120" diagonal. Believe me, you have no problem seeing it from 20' away!
I have both an xbox, ps2 and computer connected to it. Wow. it rocks! HD gaming rocks. I have a bluetooth wireless keyboard and mouse as my computer is well, probably about 20 feet away from the area I usually sit. I had to go bluetooth because other wireless technologies for keyboard/mouse just didn't do it.
On the side. I wish there were more cho
Re:Few Ideas (Score:3, Informative)
Actual dual-pairability of BT devices wou
Re:Few Ideas (Score:2)
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Re:Few Ideas (Score:2)
1) Bluetooth is built-in to a lot of computers that you might want to use. This is a show-stopper, obviously. If both systems have internal BT, there's no way to do a KVM. The new Apple iMacs in particular are what I'm thinking of.
2) I'm not sure what the BT adaptor "looks like" to the computer, in terms of what kind of USB device it is. It might not like getting switched between two computers constantly. USB KVM switches acco
Re:Few Ideas (Score:2)
Re:Few Ideas (Score:2)
Re:What's the point (Score:2)
The Lapboard still doesn't seem to have a point, though. It looks like it would be more cumbersome and not do anything better than what I have now.
Re:What's the point (Score:2)
If I had a high def TV that had DVI inputs then I could see this being used in a living room situation.
Actually, I have a second computer which I play from the floor near my stereo (lack of room in my apartment) and tend to put the keyboard on my lap and use the mouse on a book. This could come in handy, but seeing who is making it... I'm not going to pre-order it.
I'd only buy one if I saw a physical
So fucking what? (Score:4, Funny)
It isn't exactly a next generation console is it?
I mean, that'd be like the Sony PS3 being a budget DVD player. Or something.
Re:So fucking what? (Score:2, Interesting)
I like to hook up my computer to my 52" HDTV, and the biggest problem I have right now with doing that is that I have to hunch forward to get to my keyboard and mouse that I put on my coffee table. I've tried to pu
The jokes write themselves (Score:5, Funny)
So let me get this straight...this keyboard will cover my lap and my right hand will be moving around on a surface underneath the keyboard? I can already imagine mothers everywhere fainting when they accidentally walk in on their kids playing games. "Honestly, mom, I was just playing with my mouse!" "Oh my God!, is that what you're calling it these days?!?!"
Re:The jokes write themselves (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:The jokes write themselves (Score:2, Funny)
Re:The jokes write themselves (Score:5, Insightful)
Can't wait ... (Score:5, Funny)
Can't wait to play Duke Nukem Forever on my Phantom Game Console!
Re:Can't wait ... (Score:2)
Can't wait to play Duke Nukem Forever on my Phantom Game Console!
Oh get with the times man. I've been playing Duke Nukem Forever here on my GNU/Hurd system for the past eight months! Where've you been??
Re:Can't wait ... (Score:2)
Great... (Score:3, Funny)
Hmm (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't know about you, but I don't like hitting my hand every time I bring it up to type. My roommate has a desk with the mouse lower like this and boy does it suck. If anyone here has ever played a game where you have to switch between the mouse and the keyboard (say for chatting between you and teammates) this not only kills the time it takes to get up to the keyboard, but you DO hit your hand a lot.
Not to mention the fact that you arms are going to cross in this case with the mouse directly below the keyboard.
If this is any indication of their console, they shoulda just launched years ago with two paper-cups and some string... their launch title? Telephone. Multiplayer, you just have to pass the controller between each pair of players. But look, no limit on amount of players!
Re:Hmm (Score:2)
All over this building, there are people who type less than me, who use the supposedly ergonomic stuff, the jelly pads, the trays, trackball mice, and they all have ten times the problems with carpal that I have. Not that I've got none, but I haven't needed surgery yet.
As for the crap console, they've be
So... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:So... (Score:2)
But at least they will finally try t
Re:So... (Score:2)
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Re:How did this land on /.? (Score:2)
they are trying to pump the stock (Score:2, Informative)
because they need all the help they can get [yahoo.com]
Re:How did this land on /.? (Score:2)
Seriously, Infininum seems to be more of an entertainer than a provider. Their scthick is the Phantom game console, which is ever so eternally delayed, with their comedy troupe of lawyers, CEOs and PR people. We are waiting for Godot, but his name's Phantom in this case. If there was a glitzy hollywood sign with their game console on it, it would have a sticker on it that says "held 5th year
Re:How did this land on /.? (Score:5, Interesting)
During the banquet, which Infinium founder Tim Roberts *insisted* I had to come to (possibly because I'm the only tech journalist in or near Sarasota), he and former Microsoftie Kevin Bachus, who was Infinium President at the time, kept asking me what I thought of their latest business and marketing plan, as in, "Would it succeed?" (Also, Tim kept asking, "How's the food?" which was decent but not great.) And did my much younger friend, Matt Moen, who came with me, think he'd be interested in the Phantom, being he was the "target" age for their marketing program?
As it says in the article, the only interesting or potentially marketable product Matt and I saw from Infinium at that point was their keyboard/mouse thing, which looked like it would be kind of cool for couch computing. Kevin told us they weren't interested in the lapdesk as a product, that they were concentrating on the console and game service, which would debut shortly. Remember: this was in *2004*, and they'd already been saying "Next month, really, we promise, we'll have a product to show you" for nearly two years before that.
Now the lapdesk seems to be the only product the company is actually able to bring to market. So Matt and I get to have a big laugh (which you are free to share), and say, "We told you so!"
- Robin
When do they get charged with fraud? (Score:3)
It may be a good insider joke, but I'm sure people who've actually sunk money into this "company" are far from amused. (No, I don't play stocks.)
I'd seriously like to know how many years of nonsense marketing, nonexistent products, and continued market blather are required before an investor group or the government finally says "Enough!" and shuts them down or jails those responsible.
Re:When do they get charged with fraud? (Score:4, Interesting)
I am neither an investor nor a prosecutor.
My only contact with Infinium has been to interview several of its CEOs, corporate officers, and board members, read all available information about the company (including SEC filings and its own promotional material), and analyze the company's prospects the same way any competent reporter or analyst would, using provable information instead of rumors, gossip, and hearsay.
If Infinium, its founders, or its major shareholders are ever sued or indicted, I'll probably be subpoenaed as a witness. If that happens I'll let you know.
One word of advice: if you ever think about investing in a tech company (or any other kind of company), check not only the company's obvious financial track record but how well it keeps commitments, including but not limited to releasing products and paying suppliers on time. Information about a company's bill-paying history can be obtained -- for a fee -- through Dun & Bradstreet and other corporate credit reporting agencies. In the Internet age, information about how well a company keeps its product release promises can be obtained free through Google and other search engines.
- Robin
yech (Score:2)
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Boy howdy.
Re:yech (Score:2)
tut tut tut... (Score:2, Funny)
Fool me twice shame on me
Fool me thrice erm well I forget this thing, but you get the idea...
Re:tut tut tut... (Score:2)
Actually, the quote is... (Score:2)
"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again." [about.com]
-President George W. Bush
Angled Keyboard? (Score:3, Insightful)
So I sat for a moment, puzzled as to how they thought this thing would be useful...
Then I decided to try it myself, So i've propped my keyboard up at a comparable angle, and I'm typing on it right now... I've got to admit it hasn't slowed my typing down at all, or decreased my accuracy (Although it does obviously take longer to make the keyboard->mouse->keyboard transition with the right hand)
While I'm still able to type quite well, I can't help but get the feeling that this could be a near-instant cuase of a significant repetitive stress injury, with all the odd angles and such.
Also, if the keyboard is in your lap, how do you get to your
Re:Angled Keyboard? (Score:2)
Re:Angled Keyboard? (Score:2)
Lapboard (Score:2)
Seriously, doing a good job creating a game console is HARD. Compounding that difficulty is the fact that you need game producers all lined up with new games at launch time. This idea that they were going to take PC hardware and run PC games was never a very good one. Microsoft tried it (and failed), and they DID have game producers lined up! Now the latest generati
Re:Lapboard (Score:2)
Re:Lapboard (Score:2)
Miniaturization. Learn it, live it, love it.
Not a wireless mouse (Score:4, Funny)
For a product from Infinium Labs, I'd expect both the keyboard and the mouse to be wireless. Hell, I'd expect the dang thing to READ your friggin' MIND and move itself around FOR you.
Besides, I heard that their CEO strangles puppies to get off.
I mean, that's just something I heard somewhere. [penny-arcade.com]
Okay... (Score:3, Insightful)
As a side note, and this is nothing personal about Infinium but why is it that pre-produce launches have become so necessary. I mean I know that announcing new airplanes in advance of ground tests and so on is necessary to drum up funding, or just spit in the eyes of those who said you would never "make it" but why is it that every company has to tell the world about its products before they exist just to keep shareholders happy. First the shareholders demanded regular updates and yearly profits. Now they expect quarterly profit gains. Before you had to have a new product on the market each year. Now it seems you have to have a new pre-product announcement each quarter (just look at Apple).
I can't help but think that the focus on short-term gains and announcements bodes ill in the long run for any company.
The Phantom may come out..in spirit (Score:2)
Ergonomics (Score:2, Insightful)
[Insert snide comment on the horrific ergonomics of that device here]
Re:Ergonomics (Score:2)
How about complaining about wireless KB and Mouse? (Score:2)
A conference room at work has a neat wireless keyboard and mouse setup. You have to sit in the corner of the table side on to everybody else with the KB half off the table to get it to work at all. Long cables would be more convenient.
Yesterday I was around at my dad's place installing ubuntu for him. He had to hunt around for batteries for his keyboard. Really, extension cables aren't that hard to buy and they work forever once they are in place.
Wireless peripherals sound OK for occasional home use where
Re:Ergonomics (Score:2)
place your bets (Score:2)
Re:place your bets (Score:2)
Boy, are you optimistic !
I was going to start taking bets on this one *ever* shipping! Didn't they say that it'd be available in six months... if they can get funding?!?
Isn't that exactly what they've been saying about their console for years ? Wow.
Maybe I'm missing something. If I start a business that never creates anything other than press releases or lawsuits, and never takes in any money from anyone other than venture c
Re:place your bets (Score:2)
I'm in. I call dibs on the CEO position. : p
Re:place your bets (Score:2)
It should be noted (Score:5, Informative)
You just can't make this stuff up! (Score:4, Interesting)
Perfect stepping stone! Subsequent launch, further down the line. Man, this guy just cracks me up. Did he actually make this quote with a straight face? Because I couldn't stop myself from laughing just reading it.
Oh, and anyone else amused by the fact that they have apparently been working on this keyboard for over three years now, but yet it's STILL going to take them another 6 months to get it into peoples hands! If they were that far behind with the keyboard, just imagine where they are with the rest of the system
Re:You just can't make this stuff up! (Score:2)
I heard there was a big flap over where to put the "Any" key. Changed positions at the last mintue... manufacturing delays... that sort of thing.
These guys are still in business? (Score:3, Interesting)
Is this ergonomic and useful or just unique? (Score:2)
The operation of the mouse underneath is supposed to provide what advantage exactly? I see it just as another way of positioning a mouse, but maybe I just don't 'get it.'
Re:Is this ergonomic and useful or just unique? (Score:2)
Oh. My. Goodness... (Score:2)
In fact it reminds me of my first computer desk, which was built before mice were invented, so I had to stick the mouse on the shelf under the keyboard.
However that I'd have to say I get by with a wireless keyboard and optical mouse just fine thanks. Optical mice work incredibly well on uneven surfaces, so I don't see the point in sticking what is - in effect - a glorified mous
...vapourware (Score:2)
I wonder if the Phantom console's investors ever envisaged that their money would be spent releasing a bluetooth keyboard an mouse.
Do the trackball, baby (Score:2)
It is a shame that the mouse hit the tipping point and took over.
I used a mouse since the first Macintosh. Earlier this year my right shoulder started to have some serious problems... pain that wouldn't go away for months. I switched to the trackman.
Pain gone. I now find mice a bit clumsy. I mean, I have to move my whole arm?? Crazy.
Re:Do the trackball, baby (Score:2)
Re:Do the trackball, baby (Score:2)
I have.
It's kinda like trying to control a fighter plane with an Atari controller [google.ca]...
Re:Do the trackball, baby (Score:2)
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Re:Do the trackball, baby (Score:2)
Part of what caused the original shoulder problem was my marathon Battlefield 2 sessions!
I don't think it has affected my game in the slightest. I don't even think about it anymore. The trackman above uses a fingertip to roll the cursor, the mouse requires your entire hand. Which is going to be more sensitive? At first I really hated lining up sniper shots, but just forced myself until I could.
A
Re:Do the trackball, baby (Score:2)
Lame Press Release (Score:2)
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Re:Lame Press Release (Score:2)
Congratulations, you've found the one problem with this story being listed on slashdot - it should have been filed in "humor"!
Really, it's hilarious to see Infinium Phantom stuff, but the story should provide contextual links ( so nobody who bothers to look takes the story to seriously ) and it should at this point, in all fairness, be labeled as "humor", not "hardware", not "games"... we all know it's "humor".
Or, at least,
Remember Daikatana? (Score:2)
Too much movement required (Score:2)
As for it being wireless...meh, this technology is nothing new. I particularly enjoyed my old Tosh
Re:Too much movement required (Score:2)
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After what they did to HardOCP, I don't think so. (Score:3, Insightful)
What happened to WhereIsPhantom.com? (Score:2, Interesting)
So does anyone know what happened to the site?
-=- Greyfire
Slashdot is glad to help (Score:2)
"One of the most talked about aspects of the system is its wireless keyboard and mouse combo called the Lapboard."
Yes. Thanks to Slashdot.
Of course, what they don't mention is the fact that what is being SAID about it is that it looks like crap.
Time for more Pump & Dump? (Score:2)
Re:Time for more Pump & Dump? (Score:2)
No Consumer Market Survey (Score:2)
In other news (Score:2)
As proof that my pro
It's a really nice design (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:It's a really nice design - NOT (Score:2)
STILL MONTHS OUT (Score:2)
Have they drummed up the money (good lord from who?) to actually make it or are they still begging for dollars? A quarter or two away is just near infinity for these guys so i ain't holding my breath....
One handed typing? (Score:2)
Re:Amazed (Score:2)
Re:It's gotta be a bundled deal (Score:2)