Intel's New Slogan Clarified 279
OctoberSky writes "We already knew that Intel was changing its slogan. The new tagline will be 'Leap Ahead', replacing the 10 year old 'Intel Inside'. The move was initially reported here on Slashdot yesterday. The official announcement includes the slogan's replacement." From the article: "Intel shares, up 7.2 percent this year, fell 37 cents to $25.07 yesterday in Nasdaq Stock Market composite trading. The change in Intel's brand is the first step in a $2.5 billion marketing campaign, BusinessWeek reported earlier, without making clear where it got the information. Intel spokesman Bill Calder declined to comment on the number. "
Leap Ahead? (Score:4, Insightful)
Sounds like some Chinese government plan. Maybe theyre just trying to leap eastwards to cut costs.
Re:Leap Ahead? (Score:3, Insightful)
Can't stop my... self... (Score:2)
Re:Leap Ahead? (Score:2)
Maybe Mao was using one of the old Pentium IIs with the math bug?
Re:Leap Ahead? (Score:5, Informative)
I suspect they'd prefer to achieve something more than the other Great Leap Forward http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward [wikipedia.org]. I don't think it'll be all that impervious to Slashdot jokes either.
Intel's not having a good time right now, and sloganeering instead of engineering won't fix that.
Re:Leap Ahead? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Leap Ahead? (Score:2)
Now, and forever
Re:Leap Ahead? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Leap Ahead? (Score:5, Funny)
A few anagrams:
A LEAD HEAP
LA PEAHEAD
LA APEHEAD
PLEA AHEAD
I'm sure others can do better...
Regards,
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*Art
Alternate slogans? (Score:4, Funny)
Leap ahead to AMD.
Lame ahead.
Look at AMD before you leap ahead?
Or, my favorite: "So what if we're not AMD? We got APPLE, bitch!"
In terms of Intel and AMD (Score:2)
Re:Alternate slogans? (Score:2)
Also, Intel is the Apple CORE.
Re:Leap Ahead? (Score:2)
Some fashion show on the screen.
Strange peach-colored dress draped on the bulemic girl
Wore a cloth covering her entire head, save a bit of hair in the back.
Most terrifying was her handbag, which leads to this variation:
Maybe the commercial has a Mongol horde swooping through, decapitating a bunch of blue men, and then coke-addled fashionistas accessorizing. Nahhh, too conservative.
Why not keep the old one as well? (Score:5, Insightful)
Now they are trowing away a widely known slogan in the hope of recreating the success of the old one. Does McDonalds replace the M even if it tries to change its image of greasy fastfood? Does Coca-Cola launch a new blue and white bottle?
No, you don't destroy slogans/names unless you feel that to not get a new image is going to kill you or if your marketting department has been let loose out of the basement.
Intel inside has a lot of spoofs but that is good. Only the well known can be spoofed. Neither does Intel have a bad name among the general public. AMD is nibbling away but is that the time to go for a new slogan? Right when you want people to think "Hmmm well that machine looks hot but why doesn't it have that Intel Inside logo? I don't trust it. What is AMD anyway a chinese clone?" you remove that.
I think this is the case of the runaway marketting department, any person living in a country were a national industry has been privatised can tell you what that is like. Were a name like "PTT" is twisted around and recoloured and resloganed so many times and people still call it by the old name because people don't change. For the dutch how many new names has your medical insurance company or elec/gas company had in the last decade?
I say that the moment we are finished with shooting the lawyers we move on to the marketing people. Who is with me?
Re:Why not keep the old one as well? (Score:2)
Re:Why not keep the old one as well? (Score:2)
Re:Why not keep the old one as well? (Score:2)
How much MORE advertising am I going to have to avoid now that Intel has two BILLION dollars to spend making emotional appeals to try to convince me their product is better?
small observation (Score:2)
Re:small observation (Score:2)
How about a warning (Score:2)
--LWM
Re:Leap Ahead? (Score:2)
Re:Leap Ahead? (Score:2)
Cracks are starting to show (Score:4, Insightful)
Cracks, indeed... (Score:2)
This is indeed, true, and the slogan changing is generally done when the company doesn't really know what to do to fix itself... I see it as the equivelant of throwing up your hands in confusion.
Perhaps it is meant to be internally motivational (that is, to its employees) as much as it is supposed to be (ha) externally inspiring...
Either way, it should be interesting (especially as these anti-trust lawsuits pan o
Re:Cracks are starting to show (Score:2)
Re:Cracks are starting to show (Score:2)
Intel outsells AMD five to one in 64-bit chips.
I find it remarcable that there was NO SLOGAN (Score:5, Interesting)
That is lousy reporting.
Somebody was getting paid by the word when a picture would have done a much better job of it.
Well the logo is odd (Score:2)
So either it is not the real final logo OR it will be much smaller when used on a new computer case OR all computer cases will have to be redesigned for the larger sticker?
WTF am I talking about? Well all grey boxes come with a little hole in the front where the builder can put his Intel or AMD logo. Since the new logo is far wider then high it doesn't fit. Shrink it and you
Uh-oh... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Uh-oh... (Score:2)
How should AMD respond? "At Least We're Not Communists"
???
Re:Uh-oh... (Score:2)
It does make me think, though. Did Apple set as a condition of using Intel processors that they would not have that cheesy logo—long associated with the grey box phenomenon—to grace the outside of
Great Leap Forward (Score:4, Interesting)
Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:5, Funny)
9. Twice the price for half the performance
continue...
Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:3, Funny)
7. Intel: Hey, At Least We Aren't Cyrix
Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:2)
Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:3, Funny)
Typical. Those Intel slackers can't think up their own taglines so they just steal Oracle's.
Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:2, Insightful)
Although that gave me a chuckle, I can't say I agree with it. The only CPU I have had overheat on me was an AMD Athlon XP 3200, and a large reason for why AMD has trouble getting into the laptop market is that it hasn't invested as much in bringing its CPU temperatures down.
Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:2)
The Athlon XP was yesterday's news the day before yesterday. Where have you been? Opteron looks a LOT better in terms of heat/MIPS. It's just as fair for me to say that my old Xt with V20 processor didn't have a heatsink at all.
Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:2)
Or perhaps he, like most of use, has the usual chinese $10 stamped sheet metal computer case that is engineered more for ease of manufacture than performance, and on hot days the heat output of a P4 is too much for those tiny fans. If you aim a box fan at the exposed motherboard, the "
Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:2)
When you 'open up the sides of the case' you entirely undermine the designed airflow of the case, and it's easy to make critical parts of the system hotter.
True if that's ALL you do. However, if the box fan is well placed, it WILL result in a lot more airflow than the case fans could ever provide. As long as you make sure that extra airflow goes through the heatsinks it's a big win. However, if you just point the fan at the MB and create a little isolated bubble around the CPUs, you'll lose.
Re:Top 10 Rejected Intel taglines? (Score:3, Funny)
Leap Ahead (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Leap Ahead (Score:2)
Re:Leap Ahead (Score:5, Funny)
Well, lets see...we have 2.5 billion, and two words, so...carry the 1...uh...
Re:Leap Ahead (Score:2)
Actually, they want to really go with this whole "leaping" metaphor. They are planning to roll out a new game kind of like Twister with a giant mat you put on the floor with all these conclusions written on them; the game will be called "Leap to Conclusions"...
Re:Leap Ahead (Score:2)
Re:Leap Ahead (Score:2)
That's not impressive. I suggest an alternative. (Score:5, Funny)
That is bloody disappointing, honestly. It sounds like a desperate attempt to sound 'cutting edge'...
They should've stuck with something like:
Intel: The processor that won't explode and kill you
GENIUS!
Re:That's not impressive. I suggest an alternative (Score:2)
I know, back in the day, that slogan it meant something, where one paid the premium rather than go with some 'cheap' knockoff like the K5 (AMD) or a Cyrix chip.
Now that slogan has little revelance.
But "Leap Ahead" is so utterly uninspiring, with a designed by committee or consultant feel, where the overall effect is similiar to that of a '82 dodge with 300K miles getting a new $199 paint job by Maaco.
Intel isn't Apple (Think Different.) It would have done better if it st
Re:That's not impressive. I suggest an alternative (Score:2)
That kinda does sound like it might kill me.
look (Score:2, Funny)
In a way (Score:2)
Re:In a way (Score:2)
Re:In a way (Score:2)
Marketing first, R&D second.. (Score:4, Interesting)
AMD's Athlon 64 X2 4800+ is roughly equal in performance to Intel's latest Pentium Extreme Edition 955. The AMD 4800+ costs ~USD$495, and Intel's 955 costs ~USD$995! That extra money clearly isn't going into R&D, so where could it be going? Marketing of course..
No-one who's aware of AMD's offerings are going to pay an extra USD$500 for a 'Leap ahead' sticker, and as the mass market becomes aware of AMD Intel's marketing campaigns will only get less and less effective..
Intel went the wrong direction chasing 10GHz because of the marketing dept, and apparently no lessons have been learnt.. They need to take an about face and stop letting the marketing team lead, or a once great company is going to go to shit.
Price correction (Score:2, Informative)
But if you compare the low end... (Score:4, Insightful)
Let's talk processor's someone might buy (prices from Fry's):
PentiumD 820 2.8 GHz = $250
AMD X2 3800+ 2.0 GHz = $330
Sure, the AMD X2 3800+ is probably a little better, but it's not 35% better so the Intel has the better performance/price ratio. More importantly, you simply can't get a dual core AMD processor for what most people consider a reasonable price for a processor (I consider $250 the most I will spend or suggest someone spend).
I don't understand your complaining that the marketing department is running things. Marketing departments are supposed to be the ones who pick a slogan. Intel finally got their marketing department out of their engineering meetings, and it looks like they are trying to maximizing performance/power now, which is something most people would love to see. If anything, they are going less to shit now than they were from 2002-2004.
quick response re: R&D vs marketing (Score:2)
Other interesting numbers:
#7 Microsoft, $6.5B, down 20.5% from 2003
#11 IBM, $5.167B, up 2%
#16 Samsung Electronics, $4.529B, up 35.7%
#89 AMD, $935M, up 9.5%
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AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion (Score:5, Informative)
Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion (Score:2)
Personally, I use AMD whenever I can - Intel just can't (or rather, won't) beat the price/performance of AMD procs.
Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion (Score:5, Informative)
That's not by any means a certainty. While I have personally used Intel's "Next Generation Microarchitecture", let me tell you - Athlon 64 F stepping is no slouch and it is going to ramp very fast. Intel's NGA is so impressive because Prescott was such a flop.
Moreover, there are no facts that can or cannot lie. Intel has - as of yet - shipped nothing but a few engineering samples. When we see real parts with real availablility, maybe we can compare. But right now all the Intel fanboys can do is compare Intel's as-of-yet unreleased parts to AMD parts that are already shipping. And even then, Intel isn't looking so great - 5% faster than 6-month-old AMD64 parts isn't going to be impressive.
Intel is announcing completely redesigned processors, and essentally all AMD is going to do is push the clockrate of their current designs. Here are some links to back up these claims.
F stepping introduces major optimizations, DDR2 support, and faster HT. AMD will ship 65nm parts in 2006, which will lower power usage. AMD64 scales extremely well - with DDR2, faster HT, 65nm, and higher clocks, F stepping will have no problem remaining compeitive with inte's NGA.
you said it yourself... (Score:2)
Slashdot dogma is that Intel is so far behind that they can't even see the same continent as AMD's performance levels. Now you're saying "new Intel stuff isn't all that, AMD will have no problem keeping up". Can't you see the difference that is? You are even saying now that you expect them to be neck and neck.
That's a big chance, one which really could influence
Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion (Score:2)
Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion (Score:2)
Re:AMD Fanboy Reality Distortion (Score:2)
What? Just because we make fun of a marketing slogan makes us AMD fanboys? Maybe we are all just making fun of it because it's just plain stupid?
Chip it. (Score:5, Funny)
Give the stocks a slip,
Step up on and hack,
Break your boss' back.
When a problem comes along,
You must chip it,
Before the screen sits on too long,
You must chip it,
When something's going down,
You must chip it.
Now chip it,
Into shape,
Shape it up,
Code it straight,
Go forward,
Leap ahead,
Try to detect it,
It's not too late,
To chip it,
Chip it good.
When Intel turns math around,
You must chip it,
Intel won't ever live it down,
Unless you chip it,
They'll never get their way,
Until they chip it.
I say Chip it,
Chip it good.
The new Logo (Score:3, Informative)
In other words: AMD is killin' Intel (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.reed-electronics.com/eb-mag/article/CA6 287342 [reed-electronics.com]
Intel's insider selling: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=INTC [yahoo.com]
How will AMD feel. (Score:2)
Intel's got 586, AMD got 5K (5xx numbering).
When later Intel pushed "Pentium", AMD also forgot numbers and went with Athlon.
Intel's got Celeron, AMD got Duron (later Sempron) - they sound so alike.
Now with Intel's Grand Vision for a Better World, I expect AMD will feel little and try to follow...
Oh wait, check their site, they are already doing it. The banner on their home page is showing
Re:How will AMD feel. (Score:2)
Oh, wait...
On budget lines... (Score:2)
Re:How will AMD feel. (Score:2)
AMD had a 586 chip (I think it might of been called 5x86) Anyway, it ran at 133Mhz and was designed for a 486 motherboard. It was the fastest socket 3 chip ever made, and I have heard reports of people successfully running them at 160Mhz and even 200Mhz.
English-centric slogan = bad (Score:3, Interesting)
I guess the marketroids in charge should travel a little more outside the USA, just to get a grasp of the global Marketing English understanding in non-english-speaking countries (there's a lot of them, mind you).
So... when will they drop "Pentium" then? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:So... when will they drop "Pentium" then? (Score:5, Informative)
Next month, [zdnet.com] starting with Yonah and likely following with Merom (64-bit notebooks) and Conroe (post-P4 desktops).
According to the article I linked to (and other articles), Intel will emphasize Yonah's platform (Centrino-like bundle of CPU/chipset/wireless) and refer to the CPU component as "Core Duo" and "Core Solo."
Re:So... when will they drop "Pentium" then? (Score:2)
Re:So... when will they drop "Pentium" then? (Score:2)
it's better than (Score:2)
$2.5 billion? (Score:2)
Limp Ahead (Score:2, Funny)
Is "leap" a noun or a verb? (Score:2)
I'm sure this all sounded good on paper to Intels little army of highly paid marketing droids, but to be honest, it's left me somewhat confused.
So now I have to ... (Score:2)
Who thinks up this crap? (Score:3, Funny)
'Leap Ahead', however, sounds retarded. Really now, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, especially if you're changing off a good, well-known slogan for one that sounds stupid. I'm pretty sure the marketing department was really brainstorming this one...
"We need to give Intel a FRESH TWIST. We need to appeal to the consumer electronics market, and now more than ever our ability to market these products is going to be a factor in the future of our firm. I say we start with a new slogan and go from there."
"Uh."
(20 hours later.)
"... What about 'Leap Ahead'?"
"That's stupid. You're stupid. But our shifts have been over for about twelve hours, so let's just leave it at that."
Intel behind again (Score:2)
Apple fandom and Intel (Score:2)
Does this mean an end to NASCAR laptops? (Score:2)
Leap a head? (Score:2)
To my mind, this slogan is easily confused with the Daylight Savings Time [wikipedia.org] mnemonics (no relation) "Spring Forward" and "Fall Back".
I had an idea like that once... (Score:2, Funny)
Sorry, I had to make the joke.
A mistake, IMO. "Intel Inside" was brilliant (Score:2)
Its really taken a long time for AMD to become a serious competitor again -- and they've only been able to do that because of trully significa
"Leap" already used by another computer company (Score:2)
Re:Alternatives to Intel and AMD? (Score:2, Informative)
If you're not tied to x86 then you could definitely jump the ARM or Power wagons.
Re:Alternatives to Intel and AMD? (Score:2, Informative)
Although finding a Geode NX is another story, but to put some limelight on prices, I have seen a Geode NX + Mobo for the same price of a Sempron here in the UK.
10 years? (Score:4, Informative)
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=10&scor
Re:...the rest will follow? (Score:2)
I agree with you, and every technical professional knows that Intel has been steadily behind AMD for the last 5 or so years. I really wish companies would spend more time and resources on development rather than marketing. Maybe it's not feasible in our time, but in the future I hope "doing" becomes more popular than "bragging". Einstein (physics), Kasparov (chess), and Newton (physics) didn't need to market themselves or thei
Re:how about the logo? (Score:2)
Re: Intel = frog (Score:2)
Pretty devastating image, actually.
Maybe FARK can have a photoshop contest on this.