DIY Projector Plans Released 233
vroom writes "Lumenlab, a rapidly-growing website dedicated to the art of building LCD projectors, has just released its guide on how to build your own projector. The guide used to sell for $19.99, along with entrance to the "Premium Forums," where like-minded DIYers work together to constantly push this obsession forward. Not sure if building your own LCD projector is for you? Not a problem anymore. Just download the official torrent file of the guide and you're good to go. If you want to roam with the others in the Premium Forums, however, you'll still need to buy a membership."
Official? (Score:2, Interesting)
I see a LumenLab banner at the top of Free2Code's site, but with a referrer link like they're an affiliate.
Maybe I'm just paranoid, but this doesn't feel legit.
Re:Official? (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopi
So it does indeed look legit. Surprised they don't have something a little more visible regarding the announcement, though.
Re:Official? (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm sure they'd rather you paid $19.95. Meanwhile, you can get a good look at what you're getting for that, and twenty bucks to get to the forums seems totally fair. A good deal all around
Me, I'll be on the holodeck ;-)
DIYPRO Test Image (Score:2)
http://lumenlab.com/brainchild/web_test1.jpg [lumenlab.com]
TIA.
Re:DIYPRO Test Image (Score:2)
and
http://www.diypro.net/workroom/images/shot_1.jpg [diypro.net]
Re:Official? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Official? (Score:2)
You're missing the point (Score:2, Insightful)
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Creative Commons License (Score:2)
I don't think the second part could be reasonably faked. Unless of course they H4x0r3d lumenlab.com...
Could you please specify? (Score:5, Funny)
What do they mean by "minor?" Why can't there be a rating system?
MINOR (Carpentry/Electrical)
Drunken Redneck/Three Month Old Chimp
Middle-Age-Crisis-Ridden Father-in-Law/Community College Electrical Engineering Dropout
Bob Vila/Uncle Ben
Jesus/Ben Franklin
MAJOR (Carpentry/Electrical)
Re:Could you please specify? (Score:2)
Gordon.
Re:Could you please specify? (Score:2)
I think they mean that you should find a teenager with 133t skillz to do it for you.
Re:Could you please specify? (Score:2)
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Re:Could you please specify? (Score:2)
However in general I agree with the point and tone of your post. It's just that your numbers are no longer true, and will become increasingly less true in the future with regard to the percentage of the population with advanced degrees of one sort or another. And occupational education is (somewhat unfortunately, perhaps) waning: based on Table 1 of these detailed census reports [census.gov], there ar
easy (Score:3, Funny)
1. lcd
2. strong light source
3. lens
4. case
5. smoke
6. mirrors
7. done
8. profit
WhatMeWorry!!!
Anyone done it? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:5, Informative)
DIY pj's use metal halide HID lamps that last for upwards of *twenty thousand hours* and cost anywhere between $50 and $150 each. Have the thing on all day every day if you want
And there's no understating the worth of boggling the minds of your friends and family when you tell them you made it yourself
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:3, Insightful)
Children, this is why you shouldn't let people who only care about money and greed run the world.. :P
/Mikael
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
I really do not see a commercial projector dying too early. hell my old one on my ceiling is still on it's 1st bulb from 6 years ago. Yes it's at 1/2 intensity now but still useable and brighter and certianly clearer at it's 800X600 resolution than any DIY projector I have ever seen.
BTW, this DIY projector scene has been around cince the 70's I remember the upside down 13" Tv and the fres
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
I'm no expert - but are you sure? HID bulbs produce more lumens per watt than incandescent/halogen/xenon bulbs. HID vehicle headlamps manage about 3000 lumens from just 35W. A 400W HID bulb should be an absolute monster. And the relatively huge LCD could very well have a higher proportion of transmissive area than a smaller one.
That sounds to me like a recipie for putting out something like a cubic furlong of photons.
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
Also, low-end projectors are barely usable in a brightly-lit room. (Like a l
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
No. Buy Commercial. (Score:3, Informative)
Of coursem that's if you don't mind poor color rendition, and have an enormous space for your projector.
Don't be put off by lamp life. 2000 hours? My first PJ lasted more than 4 years on its original 1000 hour lamp (it had about 1700 when I sold the house, and still looked fine)
I almost did it... (Score:3, Informative)
Throw distance / placement restrictions: most overhead projectors are designed to be used a presenter *at the front of the room*, while most people would prefer their front projection system to be located at the back. The el-cheapo overhead projectors have a
I've built one (Score:3, Interesting)
Here's two photos of my results:
http://lserve.homelinux.net:7780/PICT0056.jpg [homelinux.net]
http://lserve.homelinux.net:7780/PICT0141.jpg [homelinux.net]
The white bar on the lefthand side indicates one problem you'll have: the internal components of an LCD are very delicate. I can solder 0603 SMD resistors without breaking a sweat, or lift a 208-pin FPGA from a circuit board without
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
15.4" Widescreen TFT Active-Matrix Display
Available Resolutions:
WXGA (1280 x 800)
WSXGA+ UltraSharpTM (1680 x 1050)
WUXGA UltraSharpTM (1920 x 1200)
UltraSharpTM enables wider viewing angles and improved contrast ratio for brighter, more vivid colors.
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
How do you propose on driving these screens? Most laptop screens I have seen don't allow you to just wire up a vga cable and be good...
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone done it? (Score:2)
This is not true. HDTV-res projectors have been around for several years. I bought mine over a year ago for under $5k. They've dropped in price even more since then.
Marketing b*llshit filter! (Score:5, Funny)
For a 1-page article that's a lot of exclamation marks! Somebody count them! I counted 21 !'s ! That's lot when you take into consideration that the whole article is like 15 sentences ! Seriously it becomes annoying after a while ! Somebody should tell these marketing morons that .!=! !
Re:Marketing b*llshit filter! (Score:2)
You need to engage your market-speak filter (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Marketing b*llshit filter! (Score:2)
I counted 21.
(Ok, I didn't, I just copied it from the parent poster. Sucker!)
I did it... sorta. (Score:3, Informative)
Now...
"Just released" ? (Score:5, Informative)
says "Copyright lumenlab.com 2003-2004".
BTW It is a good guide, but the same information can be collected elsewhere.
http://izzotek.com/index.php?lang=en [izzotek.com]
http://www.diyprojectorcompany.com/ [diyprojectorcompany.com]
http://www.diybeamer.ch/portal/index.php [diybeamer.ch] (German, Ahh es macht so gut..)
http://www.gadaffy.ch.vu/ [gadaffy.ch.vu]
http://www.gwidijanto.fcpages.com/index.htm [fcpages.com]
Yet buying the guide allows access to the forums, which by itself is worth the price.
Re:"Just released" ? (Score:4, Informative)
just released? (Score:2)
Looks like slashdot got scooped by... slashdot.
No wait, reading TFA, that projector is actually higher quality than this one. This one just a homemade system like an "opaque projector", a system that has been sold on eBay for like 4 years. Wow, the slashvertisements never end, do they? slashdot sucks.
Note to anyone who wants to make this, the image will be really really dim since it works on reflected light.
Since when is this news?? (Score:2)
Looks like the dupe posting was just replaced by more ad-ish articles. *shakes head*
Re:Since when is this news?? (Score:2)
Why would one pay to put an article on
Re:Since when is this news?? (Score:3, Funny)
HTH
I wonder... (Score:2)
Any pointers/help?
Re:I wonder... (Score:2)
Re:I wonder... (Score:4, Informative)
It's not how it works. That's why you don't see wall-sized 12000x9000 screens being just a seamless 10x10 matrix of 1200x900 screens, same pixel size, bigger image size. You can make bigger screens by making bigger pixels, and opposite, tiny screens with tiny pixels, like in the expensive "real" projectors. The problem is the number of interconnections, data lines for each pixel. You can squeeze in only as many while keeping the latencies at reasonable level, and the physical size has little (even if some) to do with it.
There are tiny XGA displays that could nicely go straight for such a projector, expensive like the hell, but they exist. The problem here is heat, they are way too heat-sensitive to survive it.
I was thinking more along the lines: Take it apart, change the distances between lenses, possibly add two fresnels or something like this, use normal LCD screen.
Re:I wonder... (Score:2)
There were a number of problems. The image wasn't very bright, and it didn't last long! The heat from the bulb screwed with the LCD and it stopped working after a while. Also, the resolution of the screen wasn't all that high, and you could see the pixels in the image.
Tom's Hardware did something similar (Score:3, Informative)
It's a great tutorial on how to convert a laptop TFT screen and a regular overhead projector into a great big screen! A good read, practical and down to earth.
Same basic idea, but the execution is different. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Same basic idea, but the execution is different (Score:5, Funny)
Should work (Score:2)
This looks like a fairly high quality guide to building a projector which is pretty amazing because most I have seen are next to and will result in nothing more than a pile of broken parts.
Why Bother? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Why Bother? (Score:2, Insightful)
There are also things called hobbies. Hobbies often take up lots of money with very little in return except for enjoyment.
Re:Why Bother? (Score:4, Interesting)
1. Lamp life time (..30 khours..)
2. Lamp price ($30..$100)
3. Better resolution (1024*768)
4. More quiet sound. Can be made almost totally silent. Fans are dia 120 instead dia 40
5. Cheap. LCD costs $150. OHP:s ( --> lamp, electrics, fan) can be found very cheap, maybe $10. I got mine free since the fan made noise. The lense $50 (OHP lense could be used only for a short-throw beamer = beamer between the viewer and screen).
6. Can be easily used as computer screen (games...)
But also some disadvantages:
1. Bulky size
2. Work
3. Risk of doubling the price (brake the lcd..)
4. Connecting the DVD-player needs DVI connection ?
Re:Why Bother? (Score:3, Informative)
However, if you like DIY projects then this becomes 2. Fun and gets bumped up into the advantage section.
4. Connecting the DVD-player needs DVI connection ?
Not done it myself, but I have heard other people have done it successfully:
It's possible to convert RGBs SCART to VGA simply by directly connecting the pins between the connectors in the correct order (and possibly adding a cheap £1 chip to decode composite sync into horizontal + vertical syncs). The voltage levels are handily all the same.
Re:Why Bother? (Score:2)
Steve
Re:Why Bother? (Score:2)
You must be new here. Please leave your geek badge at t
It's HUGE! (Score:2)
Re:It's HUGE! (Score:2)
Doubles as a coffee table.
Why do lamps cost so much? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Why do lamps cost so much? (Score:4, Informative)
a) very high light output
b) very short arc length
c) very even colour spectrum
The reason b) is important is because the projection optics rely on having a point-light source. Light that's generated only a few mm off the focal point of the first lens doesn't follow the correct path through the optics and gets wasted (or pollutes the light that is going the right way, causing a blurry, washed out image.) Add a) and b) and you get a lot of heat in a very, very small space. Manufacturing a bulb that can do a and b and doesn't explode as soon as it's lit is hard. Add c and things are even harder.
I'm sure bulb manufacturers make a reasonable profit off their bulbs, but they aren't deliberately limiting the lifespan of these bulbs for the hell of it - it's just you only get two out of "cheap", "good" and "long-lived".
Re:Why do lamps cost so much? (Score:2)
+Cheap, +long-lived, -bad and -Expensive, -short-lived, +good are two best you can get.
You won't find a good long-lived one nor good, cheap one. Either go for cheap (or expensive, but still bad) long-lived (or short-lived if you're a sucker) halogens, or buy "originals" that die faster than you can say "poof" and cost a fortune, but provide good image quality.
Re:Why do lamps cost so much? (Score:2)
Save your $19.95, here's how I did it: (Score:4, Interesting)
Go home.
Place tablet on projector.
Plug in all cords into their correct sockets.
Enjoy!
Re:Save your $19.95, here's how I did it: (Score:2)
Was it really the resolution that was the downfall of those devices? Presentations using lcd overhead projection, iirc, were self-limiting in that eventually the image would start to "melt" as the lcd panel became overheated by the projection bulb. It would eventually recover, but the heat/cool cycle was such that at least in my experience full-class presentations were
Re:Save your $19.95, here's how I did it: (Score:2)
I wish I went to high school where you did! I think the highest form of technology we had there at the time (10 years ago) was a laserdisc player that had been produced 15 years prior. One VGA projection tablet would have been amazing, much less a whole stack of them.
Re:Save your $19.95, here's how I did it: (Score:2)
Gee, how nice. Then you can have a 640x480 image (lower-res than a standard TV) scaled up to 50". I'm sure that'll look great.
I wouldn't even go for 1024x768. 1920x1080 is the minimum these days, IMHO, otherwise everyone is going to want to upgrade, just a year or two down the road.
Oh, and you forgot the last step. Attach a coup
Re:Save your $19.95, here's how I did it: (Score:2)
Not true. Standard TV in Slashdot-land is NTSC [wikipedia.org]. Go do some homework.
Free DIY LCD Projector Guides (Score:3, Informative)
DIY Network Error (Score:2, Funny)
It doesn't cost a thing, except for 3 seconds of your time. You may wish to try again at a later time.
A wealth of guides already available (Score:3, Informative)
Not sure why the release of this particular set of plans is news, really. There are a ton of guides for DIY projectors, that go from simple fresnel based systems, through LCD + overhead projector, all the way to building the whole thing yourself.
FYI, see:
Rectangular projection (Score:2)
I know that most of the newer non-diy projectors do that, but still the best price I can find on one that does xga is at least $1K.
Re:Rectangular projection (Score:2)
Because 16:9 panels are expensive, the projector will become bad value compared to a commercial one, so you might as well just buy the commercial one which is far smaller, guaranteed and generally much better quality than the DIY ones.
You can obviously still project 16:9 pictures via a 4:3 display - it's just that there might b
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Re:Here's a simpler method of DIY projection (Score:2, Insightful)
An OHP with an LCD on top is going to be ungainly, fragile and is going to dump a lot of waste light around it, washing out the image. DIY projectors aren't infinitely bright; controlling the ambient light is an important consideration.
Re:Here's a simpler method of DIY projection (Score:2)
Easy (Score:2)
Damn (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Damn (Score:2)
Projector Mount (Score:3, Informative)
My LumenLab experience (Score:4, Interesting)
The users in the LumenLab member forum are the real reason to buy the plans. Their experience is invaluable and they are amazingly eager to help you.
Brain, the guy who operates LumenLab.com is highly accessible, both in forums and LL's IRC channel. He's an interesting character. He and his wife built a biodiesel car that runs on hemp oil, a DIY home CNC machine, among other things.
I highly recommend browsing the LumenLab free forum where users post pics of their finished projectors. Hundreds of success stories. Look for my friend PyrettaBlaze, his finished PJ is amazing.
The finished result with the LumenLab kit is siginificantly sharper and brighter than the overhead projector/LCD panel kludge - Approximately 1800-2000 ANSI lumens at 1024x768 with the ability to throw anything from your PC to the screen (or other sources through adapter box.) The LL guys are using quality optics and have a fanatical support community behind them.
Check it out.
Re:My LumenLab experience (Score:2)
Lumenlab (Score:4, Informative)
Could this also be done by using common bulbs? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Could this also be done by using common bulbs? (Score:3, Informative)
First off, the bulbs used in LumenLabs (and other DIY) projectors are not expensive - not when compared to similar (though smaller) bulbs used in commercial projectors. The expense for the DIY projector bul
Use the best LCD panel you can afford (Score:2)
This is why most portable projectors these days use DLP/DMD "light mirrors" - because they can generate true black, and the DMD "light valves" can handle more heat than small LCD's that would otherwise be used in a portable projector.
The other thing to keep in mind is that cheaper LCD's have a slow pixel response time
Lumenlabs project not HD compatible? (Score:2)
That said, I wanted to wait a bit because the hiccups in trying to do this project with an LCD that could support 720p or 1080i were large enough for me to pass on it (not to mention I didn't know where to play the thing in the room I'd use it...plus heat generated by it was a concern)
Has any progress been made in this department? Last I knew was that there were problems with the picture getting blurry around the edges, hot spots, and g
Like open source -- free if your time is worthless (Score:2)
I picked up an Optoma DLP projector for $999 that does native XGA and has every input under the sun. It's small enough to fit in a backpack, super quiet, and gives excellent performance.
The bulbs are expensive, yes... but with the purchase of an 3-yr warranty that costs less than a replacement bulb and still covers bulbs, I can leave the thing on
DIY project for $10 (Score:2)
Re:What DIY? (Score:4, Insightful)
This isn't putting an OHP LCD on an OHP, it's converting a normal desktop LCD screen (you know, the ones that have gotten very, very cheap and very, very good in the past couple of years) into a projection system. The output can be great, and they are an order of magnitude cheaper to run than *any* commercial projector. Sure, you need to hook up a PC or a video-to-VGA converter to it, but so what? Laptops and HTPCs (and video-to-vga converters) are plentiful.