How the PowerBook was Born 277
Sabah Arif writes "Apple had no presence in the portables market prior to 1992. Its attempt at creating a laptop Macintosh, the Macintosh Portable, weighed almost 15 lbs and failed to sell. On the personal behest of John Sculley, Apple contracted with Sony to create Asahi, a smaller Portable. Apple developed two high end models in company. After 1992 and until the disastrous 5300, Apple was the leading notebook maker."
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The Story condensed (Score:4, Funny)
ah the original powerbook (Score:4, Informative)
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is the luggable.
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That was a luggable machine. 15 pounds is nothing.
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http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/compa
Re:ah the original powerbook (Score:3, Funny)
That thing is a farking boat anchor, but it's technically portable. By elephants.
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luggable and immortal too (Score:5, Interesting)
In EU Germany (Score:2)
Re:ah the original powerbook (Score:2)
You're thinking of the Portable - it was a beast.
Just gotta say it (Score:4, Interesting)
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I don't see how getting Macs and running Windows on them would pave any paths to OSX, if I even considered that to be a valid move. Ya, like I wanna trade one vendor lock in for another.
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Well, you might be suprised at how well the integrate with Windows. There is an OSX version of MS Office, a Mac Remote Desktop client, Virtual PC for emulating the Windows environment, and AFAIK they can join Windows domains. I
Re:Just gotta say it (Score:2)
I don't think thats the problem. IMHO, the issue is more hardware than software related... PC laptops just suck. PC makers operate on razor thin margins - which means cheap (and often proprietary) parts, gawd-a
Re:Just gotta say it (Score:3, Informative)
What a spectacular load of bollocks.
'PC' laptops, generally speaking, suffer no worse quality componentry or service deals than Apples. Apple does not 'make' hardware. They outsource production to two of the largest laptop and gadget manufacturers in the world, one of which has a much larger stake in the laptop market than Apple, Asust [asus.com]
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I think PowerBooks are pretty nice (Score:4, Insightful)
I suppose it keeps the cost down, but if there is one area that really ought not be skimped on (especially for machines meant to be used by graphic designers), the LCD monitor is it, in my opinion.
Re:I think PowerBooks are pretty nice (Score:2, Interesting)
I suppose it keeps the cost down, but if there is one area that really ought not be skimped on (especially for machines meant to be used by graphic designers), the LCD monitor is it, in my opinion.
Odd that. I think the Compaq I use at work is too damn bright. I prefer dimmer monitors. For that m
Re:I think PowerBooks are pretty nice (Score:3, Interesting)
By the way, I really hate laptops with the smooth, shiny monitor glass/covering. The reflections are completely distracting.
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But on this PowerBook I press Command+Control+Option+8 and it switches to negative colour mode! Perfect for low light levels when you just can't crank the white down low enough.
I seriously recommend a Mac for anyone with eyestrain. The OS has features like that and a competent zoom built in so that all programs support them, and they're available by keypresses.
Re:I think PowerBooks are pretty nice (Score:4, Informative)
My current issue with Powerbooks is that they are still hobbled with a very slow front side bus, about a third that of a Pentium-M, with a much smaller cache to boot, 512k vs 1 or 2megs. I don't know how fast the bus on the Turion64 is, but I think those might be faster still.
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Also, I can't wait the times when completelly passive e-paper based displays will start to be used in laptops.
Re:I think PowerBooks are pretty nice (Score:5, Informative)
Powerbooks adjust the brightness of the screen to the available light in the user's environment. The screen can be quite dim in a poorly lit room, which results in less fatigue and less stress on your eyes when you look somewhere else besides the screen (your eyes do not need to adjust back and forth to the different lighting levels).
At least for me, brighter is not better. I have both types of laptops at home (private and work), and once you get used to the automatic dimming of the powerbook, the windows one feels like working with a desk lamp lighting directly onto your face.
Re:I think PowerBooks are pretty nice (Score:2)
My mother's Powerbook G4 can barely be used near a window during the day, but my father's Thinkpad looks great in any light. Next to each other, the difference is night and day.
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it's not just powerbooks (Score:2)
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Funny, but it seems to me that most other notebooks are the ones missing the features...
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And in some areas the Powerbooks fall short, most notably CPU performance and battery life. And while a Mac-only user might not notice it, the pointing device and keyboard are pretty mediocre designs (and, worse yet, you don't get a choice--if you want a Powerbook, you are stuck with Apple's design).
As I was saying
Re:I think PowerBooks are pretty nice (Score:2, Interesting)
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For instance, when I read an online article, being able to load links in background tabs is a godsend. I do that using a middle click. Or, I highlight the occasional word and right click to call up a dictionary.
Had I only one mouse button, your argument is that I could simply use one extra finger to hit Command or Option. But that fi
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Did someone recently uncomment the mod_troll line in your httpd.conf file? =P (Support for multi button mice is not recent. I'm not sure but, but I think it's been around at least ten years. Come on, man! Are we going to get the kottke troll next?)
However, your point about the PB lacking a second button is valid. Until Apple rectifies this (if they ever do), I suggest looking at Sidetrack [ragingmenace.com], a utility/pref pane that will give you
Re:I think PowerBooks are pretty nice (Score:2)
Well, yes, but at other times I want to open them in a background window, or in a foreground tab. There are just too damn few buttons on a mouse to do what you can do with one mouse button and modifier keys.
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I think the pencil eraser thing you refer to should be referred to as a "clitoris".
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See this link [cgsd.com] for more information, but the basic gist of it is this:
- Sun and PC (read: "Windows") don't gamma-correct anything going to the display. The average graphics card/driver end up with a gamma factor of about 2.0 or 2.1, though.
- The Mac has a standard correction factor of 1.8 due to hardware and display driver output. The reasoning for this is that it supposedly gives better color accuracy for print output. Being a complete know-nothing about graphics, I can't vouch for this.
- SGI's are similar to the Mac, but use a different correction factor. (The link says 2.4. I'll take their word for it.)
The result is that the screen on a Mac looks darker when uncorrected.
Either that, or you're just looking at someone's screen in power-save mode. Auto-dim is how Apple achieves those "amazing" battery life numbers. Remember, kids, Powerbooks are made in the same factories as Vaios and Inspirons. They're just made to Apple's spec instead of Sony's or Dell's.
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That GFX memory can also be used by OpenGL apps and games, so it's not like it's wasted. I suspect Quartz Extreme also uses some of it for window backing store, so you're always using more than 4MB of video RAM, even at 1024x768.
Autonomy Necessary for Creativity? (Score:5, Interesting)
Was the key to the strategy glancingly mentioned in the article as "...Sculley started a semiautonomous division to produce a successful portable computer"
It seems that big chunks of autonomy are necessary to developing really high quality products that are significantly different from the main corporate line. IIRC the IBM AS/400 line was the end result of a similar process: almost a separate computer company, it is said.
It would be interesting to test the hypothesis by comparing the failed development of the Apple Portable to the successful development of the Powerbook.
Re:Autonomy Necessary for Creativity? (Score:2)
The best way to develop great anything in the computing industry is to get a group of good people together, give them a goal, some constraints, enough money and stay out of their way. Most of the time this method produces something that is significantly better than average. The downside of it is that it occasionally it will produce a steaming pile of t
Re:Autonomy Necessary for Creativity? (Score:2)
IBM set up a separate facility in Boca Raton, Florida and gave them almost complete independence; they came up with the PC in record time.
The speed of development was partially thanks to their operating system agreement with Microsoft and so the Dark Lord of Ubersoft [ubersoft.net] gained power at the same time.
Sadly, the head of IBM's autonomous PC division died in a plane crash and the division was folded into
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what a wordsmith (Score:4, Insightful)
Man this guy is really good at confusing things. He sounds like a political writer. It would have been easier to say "For 2 years, 1993 and 1994, until the Apple Powerbook 5300 was released, Apple was the leading seller of portable computers"
2 years? 2 years. Seriously. I had to do research to find that the powerbook 5300 was released in 1995. Taken at face value, without knowing what the 5300 is, someone could interpret Apple's position to actually have been "dominant", where it wasn't.
Gosh. 1992. Man. The internet was barely even around! that's like stonage.
Re:what a wordsmith (Score:2)
Yeah, but I also remember hearing IBM made more off each Apple laptop sold than apple. The chip, the HD, and the screen were all IBM...
The 5300 made my gf a mac hater for life (Score:2, Flamebait)
The keyboard is missing lots of keys on it and the software is very unstable. She had alot of nerdy friends in college so I assumed they bad mouthed the mac to her like most geeks did back then. But she went on and on about problems with it and slow performance. Yes I know about the macOS upgrade and suggested it but she didn't want to hear it. She used it for one year before she left it in the closet and gave it to her mother when
except the PB100 came out in 1991. (Score:4, Informative)
So Apple had part of 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, and even a lot of 1995 because the 5300 didn't come out until August and people didn't realize the PB5300 sucked immediately.
That's enough time that the way the writer described it is reasonable. It's about 1/3rd of the total time that laptops have even existed.
Re:what a wordsmith (Score:4, Funny)
I thought he was saying that Apple was the leading notebook maker for 3308 years.
And while I'm not one of those who expects Apple to go out of business anytime soon, I'm not so sure about them still being around in the disastrous year 5300.
Stonage? (Score:4, Funny)
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*game kid does not condone the use of processor steam as a recreational drug
much more interesting... (Score:4, Funny)
It was smaller (Score:5, Informative)
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As for me, I'm usually just taking m
Re:It was smaller (Score:3, Insightful)
I always find this kind of comment amusing. "I personally have no use for one, so how could anyone else need one".
I've got a 17" laptop and 95% of its use is while sat on the sofa at home watching TV. A desktop (which I have as well) would be absolutely useless for this - the monitor would keep falling
Re:It was smaller (Score:5, Informative)
Furthermore, for extended mousing, there's nowhere for your wrist to rest when using the touchpad. I found this major flaw pretty quickly and started using my thumb on the touchpad, but the nipple just works much better.
I've seen a lot of people with touchpad only laptops always carry around real mice because the touchpad just isn't suitable for anything more than a few seconds of use, but that really hurts the portability of the laptop. Then you need to carry the mouse with you and hope that you have a flat surface to use it on.
Like another posted already said, the nipple never gets in the way of typing, the touchpad on the other hand did. Often times you'd be typing and the palm of your hand would slip onto the touchpad and you'd highlight all of the text you've typed and before you can stop yourself, you'll hit another key, thus erasing it all, cursing, and hitting undo. It doesn't happen anymore, as I've trained myself to rest my palms further away from the touchpad, but it's very annoying at first.
For me, a laptop without a nipple would be rather worthless.
It's a matter of preference, I hate the nipples (Score:2)
You use whatever you feel comfortable with. Many people I know lug a bluetooth or wireless mouse with the laptop because they just don't like the built in pointing devices.
(You know, out of context this di
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Thank you (Score:2)
My main machine is a Toshiba Tecra M3, which has both a touchpoint and a touchpad. I don't know if I'd be able to stand using a notebook without a touchpoint, and I certainly wouldn't be able to stand using it as my main machine. I use the touchpoint almost exclusively, and I only use the touchpad for three things:
1) Scrolling (iPod-style circular scrolling is wonderful)
2) Middle-click (the upper right corner of the touchpad
Re:It was smaller (Score:5, Interesting)
Nipple, snipple. I guess your a little offtopic because PowerBooks don't and never had nipples, but rather touchpads.
I'm typing this on a PowerBook right now. I'm lying on my couch on my back with the PowerBook on my groin area insulated by a blanky (plus its a little cold in my house). I'm using the touchpad now and well over 99% of the time that I use my PowerBook at home. The reason, portability. At work, I take my power cord, my computer, and my 3 button schroolwheel mouse and plug them all in.
I thought I would never say this, but I have gotten used to the one button thing on Macs. Why? Because there are so many click modifiers (shift, control, Command/Apple/or Meta if you prefer), that a second button (usually control) is only one of those, and hitting the control button is no different than hitting a second mouse button. I was helping a friend with a "PC" laptop with two buttons the other day on his touchpad, and I found it difficult to use. I guess I have been successfully brainwashed, but maybe my brain needed washing.
My biggest beef with a touchpad, is not general mousing around, its doing things like DND or selecting text or anything that is working with graphics like painting or drawing.
However, for general use like surfing the web, and doing general point and click things, a touchpad is fine. If I need more control, or am going to be using the mouse extensively, its very worthwhile to grab the mouse out of my bag and use it. Like I said, I rarely use it at home. I have only used it when working with X, because the 3 buttons come in handy there and for playing some silly flash game that was controlled with the mouse.
For the sake of the discussion... (Score:2, Funny)
I was 14 when it was released. I didn't get my first real computer 'til 1995...
Thanks.
Re:For the sake of the discussion... (Score:2, Interesting)
The Apple 5300 [lowendmac.com]
From wikipedia:
The 5300 series is widely considered Apple's worst product of the 1995-1996 time period where the company teetered on the brink of death. In its 5300ce incarnation with a TFT of 800x600 pixels, a 117 MHz PPC, 32 MB on-board RAM and hot-swappable drive bay, the 5300ce was quite ahead of other laptop models at the time, but by far failed to meet the quality standard expected for the price. Many models shipped dead on arrival, and a few 5300's used at Apple actually burst into
Re:For the sake of the discussion... (Score:2)
Anyone got one lying around
Re:For the sake of the discussion... (Score:5, Informative)
There were also qute a few problems with the 5300's Li-ion batteries. Due to Sony's manufacturing error the batteries would short and there were a couple reports of them actually catching on fire. Switching the Li-ion batteries out for NiMH ones solved the problem but seriously reduced the 5300's battery life. This was coupled with power supplies that couldn't power all of the expansion bays was quite a mess.
Performance wise the 5300 was very unimpressive. It used a 603e PowerPC chip but they didn't bother sticking an L2 cache on the machine. The clock speed wuld have been alright with a decent sized L2 cache but as it stood the machine was dog slow in most apps.
The Powerbook 5300 was responsible for many of the Apple build quality memes of the mid-90s.
Trackball Position? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'll call BS on that!
I'll admit it is somewhat a matter of personal preference, but I liked having a trackball on the right-side of the unit much more than in the center of the unit. Being near the edge of the unit allows you to bend your hand around it, making it almost feel like a normal thumb-operated trackball.
The center-mounted trackball necessitated the same terrible hand contortions you're familiar with due to notebook touchpads. I can certainly imagine it was a real pain for left-handed users, but you can't always make everything ambidexterous, and comfortable.
I'd pay thousands of dollars if I could get a modern notebook with a fairly normal keyboard and side-mounted trackball, like I had on my old 20MHz Compaq notebook.
Sometimes progress, isn't...
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Why not?
Can someone explain to me how this is insightful?
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Because if you hold your hand up you'll notice that it isn't symmetrical.
I've yet to find a symmetrical glove that's comfortable. Two different ones, one optimized for your right hand and one for the left, seem preferable.
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I'm pretty sure you can still get a Mac Portable in excellent condition, and it might well cost you a fat wad. But modern? Well yes, compared to an older machine...
Re:Trackball Position? (Score:2, Interesting)
It's not just a question of preference: in general, the center mounted trackball under the space bar tests out well in usability tests, better than side-mounted trackballs or trackpads.
There may have been specific pro
Re:Trackball Position? (Score:2)
The current trend on PC laptops is to have the buttons below the touchpad, so instead of being immediately accessible under your thumb, you have to lift your hands from
Apple IIc (Score:2, Interesting)
Where's the historical perspective? It may come as a surprise to some, but Apple actually made computers *before* the Macintosh. The Apple IIc [apple2history.org] was compact and roughly portable; although i couldn't tell you for sure (i was a C64 hacker at the time) we all assumed the Apple IIc was a portable because we see it being used on a beach in the movie "2010". Although looking back now, one has to wonder where the battery is in that compact little case.
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I remember the battery packs too.
Back in junior high I really wanted to swipe my granddad's IIc (we had a IIe) and set it up as a portable Apple.
Bring back the POWERBOOK TRACKBALL! (Score:3, Interesting)
They had the best ergonomic experience of any laptop pointing devices ever. The size and mass of the ball, the position of the buttons...Just outstanding.
First Apple Portable--Not the Powerbook!! (Score:5, Informative)
Popular? No. It was too expensive, the LCD screen was poor, battery life was awful, and regular visits with a chiropractor for the battery pack were not out the question. But it was the first Apple "laptop."
Re:First Apple Portable--Not the Powerbook!! (Score:2)
How I've missed those days. We used to take this thing out in the car and use special little boxes with this baby. Man, those were heady days.
I Remember When These First Came Out... (Score:5, Interesting)
The presentation was actually very well done, I thought--almost as good as a SteveNote. Back then, without Steve Jobs and his ego, essentially every group (desktop hardware, imaging, system software, etc.) gave a keynote on a different subject. Sculley gave the Monday keynote where he usually talked about the business side. Pretty boring stuff and Sculley wasn't that great a speaker anyway. Hell, even Bill Gates did a better presentation than Sculley (he was also there).
So we got this keynote from some VP of "Portable Computing." He started off talking about the Macintosh Portable and how they had finally identified the market for this device.
Cut to a shot of the space shuttle taking off.
Yup. The Macintosh Portable was the first personal computer in space (and I can hear the HP41c fans sharpening their knives). They showed it floating around the cabin of the shuttle, as light as a feather. They even showed something that everyone had wanted to see since the first Macintosh: A disk being ejected across the room.
Amusing.
The VP then showed off Apple Remote Access. One odd thing about his presentation, though, was that the computer he was using had no video-out. Thus, there was a guy standing behind him with a portable camera zoomed in on the screen. But if you paid attention--and I didn't until somebody mentioned it after the presentation--you could see the the edges around the screen were dark and a Macintosh Portable was sort of a light Macintosh SE grey. So ARA was being demoed on a PowerBook--we just couldn't see the whole thing.
Anyway, they were finally ready to unveil the replacement for the Macintosh Portable. They wheeled this table out onto the stage with a cloth covering a device. The VP whipped off the cloth to show us: A LaserWriter. Various chuckles from the audience. "Well, it's pretty portable..." the VP quipped as he tried to lift the LaserWriter (Apple LaserWriters weighed about 50 pounds). Suddenly, a disembodied voice from the booth called out: "Look in the paper tray." The VP reached into the paper tray and pulled out a PowerBook! And the audience went wild.
Definitely one of the better Apple presentations.
Re:I Remember When These First Came Out... (Score:2)
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http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/compute
1983
William
Mea Culpa--You're right (Score:3, Interesting)
The first e-mail from space was sent from a Macintosh Portable, but it was not the first "portable computer" in space.
My mistake.
Thinking about this also reminded me of another funny Portable/PowerBook story. A friend of mine's sister went out and bought a Macintosh Portable after seeing the PowerBooks. She preferred the Portable because, living in New York City, she wanted a heavy machine that would be less easy to steal. She'd had her purse snatched once or twice and could see s
Born on my PowerBook? (Score:2)
Outbound anyone? (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.jagshouse.com/outbound.html [jagshouse.com]
and
http://www.lowendmac.com/clones/outbound.html [lowendmac.com]
Re:Asahi (Score:2, Informative)
It's my favourite beer. Sadly, it stopped being sold in my area recently. Dammit.