Can Cell Phones Damage Our Eyes? 429
Roland Piquepaille writes "I'm sure you've read dozens of stories about how our cell phones could be dangerous to our health, causing brain tumors for example. But so far, there is not a definitive answer. But now, according to IsraCast, a team of Israeli researchers has discovered that the microwave radiation used by our cell phones could destroy our eyes by causing two kinds of damages to our visual system, including an irreversible one. If the researchers are right, and even if you only occasionally use your cell phone, the lenses in your eyes can suffer from microscopic damages that won't heal themselves over time. As this study has not been not done -- yet -- on humans, I guess the controversy can begin and that another scientific team will soon tell us that this study is not correct. In the mean time, read more for other details and references. And whether you think that cell phones can damage our eyes or not, feel free to post your comments below."
Scientists at the U. Washington have shown similar (Score:5, Informative)
But that study also showed that such effects were only engendered when the amount of radiation was both high and prolonged. The bovine lenses in this article were exposed to cellular radiation for 22 hours a day. If the exposure intensity is to be believed, then the transmitting antennas were placed right against the eyeball.
Neither of those situations is remotely near what normal cellular phone usage patterns resemble (unless you are a teenage girl, I suppose, but even then you aren't sticking the phone in your eye) (are you?).
So more study is necessary. The edge cases like the ones in the article and the UW study are very important to know, but the results of real-world testing ought to be examined as well. If we see a huge increase in the number of cancer and scratched lens cases in the coming years, there may be some validity to these studies.
I'll continue using my cellular phone, though. The convenience is just too great to pass up.
Re:Cell Phones are not new (Score:5, Informative)
Here [cnet.com] is an exhaustive list of radiation exposures.
Re:What about Wi-Fi networks? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Scientists at the U. Washington have shown simi (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Everybody hurts (Score:3, Informative)
BTW, I am a radio amateur as well. DE KE4PJW
Re:I'm Asking Nicely (Score:2, Informative)
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Re:Everybody hurts (Score:4, Informative)
The fact is: if you put energy into a system, the stuff in the system gets hotter. It dosen't really matter if it's 10Ghz, 10Mhz or anywhere in between.
As long as it gets absorbed, it makes the object hotter. 2.4 Ghz was chosen because it's in the unliscensed band and microwaves used to leak quit a bit of RF, and also because it will penetrate food well enough to heat something largish. It's sort of a sweet spot. Higher frequency waves would be absorbed nearer the surface, and lower frequencies were in demand for communications, though they'd work about as well, apparently.
So, there you have it.
Had me worried until I read... (Score:3, Informative)
Seeing as how the study has been conducted on humans and I haven't heard anything bad, I breath a sigh of relief. However if it said the study has not been done on humans, I might be slightly concerned.
What...? You don't say.
Re:All danger is relative (Score:3, Informative)
Not a very good analogy. Metal fatigue was a well-known in the early jet age and didn't require "discovery"; also, it's not something that has been solved. You're probably thinking of the the de Havilland Comet crash in 1954, where fatigue cracking at the corners of the square windows resulted in catastrophic decompression. The Comet windows were squared essentially for cosmetic reasons-- no other aircraft manufacturer was dumb enough to stray from the tried-and-true round design. The problem was solved by letting engineering take precedence over appearance. As far as metal fatigue goes, there's not way around it. It's still a major cause of plane crashes and thousands of man hours are spent inspecting aircraft structural members to catch the signs of fatigue early.
Re:There is no need for speculation. (Score:1, Informative)
Re:There is no need for speculation. (Score:1, Informative)
Were I constructing an NEC model to evaluate cell phone safety, I might try taking an NMR scan of a person's head and using the assumption of antenna reciprocity to figure out heat absorbtion. It's not a perfect assumption as we know because the nuclear resonance frequencies can change based upon many things, but it would put us in the right ballpark for the sake of making general policy.
What are you talking about? There are several very good human head models out there, mostly derived from the visible human project (HUGO, et al), which are used in SAR/heating models. You use something like FDTD or TLM to figure out the E field in the head, then you can work out SAR based on tissue properties.
Yep, that all works, and gives you lots of information about heating. But it isn't even nearly the whole story. Have you ever considered the biochemistry going on in your head right now? There's all kinds of stuff going on. And yes, it can be affected by electric and magnetic fields. Figuring out exactly how, and if it's important is a big, wide open question. If you go to the literature, you'll find most studies say "this is complicated and we can't really say anything conclusive".
Traditional SAR studies look at bulk heating, and are well known. The unsolved puzle is what happens on the microscopic scale. It's facinating stuff - and there's plenty of room for new research.
Re:Thermal? (Score:3, Informative)
As it happens, I did read TFA, although I was unable to get access to the complete original reference. All it said in TFA was that "The entire system is placed in an incubator maintaining constant temperature for the duration of exposure." This is not necessarily adequate to maintain constant temperature within the chamber, which depends on how well the microwave energy is absorbed in the chamber, as well as how rapidly heat is conducted out of the chambers. They appear to be surrounded by air, so they are obviously better insulated than a lens in a body, which is effectively a big constant temperature water bath. A thermometer in the incubator would not necessarily measure the temperature in the chamber next to the lens. The illustration provided shows no temperature measuring device in the chamber itself.
Re:That attitude is pretty stupid (Score:2, Informative)