Blank Keyboard 994
Raynach writes "A friend of mine recently sent me a link for Das Keyboard, the keyboard for UberGeeks. This keyboard is unique in that it has no inscriptions on the keys, which the maker touts will make you type 100% faster in a few weeks since it will keep you from looking at the keyboard. This keyboard also features individually weighted keyswitches, "The keys are divided into groups and their feedback springs are weighted differently; from 35 grams to 80 grams, which correspond to the strength of the finger that touches the keys." But is this "UberGeek" keyboard really worth the high price tag?"
reason for, reason not for (Score:5, Interesting)
I like the looks of this keyboard. But, for those looking and drawing any conclusions (I've been burned by this before), read the specs! The web site clearly represents pictorially the keyboard as wireless (I consider this deceptive -- even the "click to zoom" pictures fail to show a cable!). It is not wireless! This may not concern some, but for my uses these days I consider only wireless keyboards... not a commentary on what technology and keyboards should be, just my personal preference.
So, look before you buy.
On a related note, if you're looking for an excuse to improve your typing speed this keyboard may give you that (albeit a bit pricey). I finally was shamed into learning touch-typing when a frustrated on-looker (a friend) wrested my keyboard from my hands to finish typing something he was dictating. That incident prompted me to spend the next week refusing to look at the keyboard to type instead learning the keys by touch. Everyone around me went crazy for a week since my immediate result was essentially less than 10 words/minute with about zero percent accuracy. Within only one week I was typing 30 words/minute with about 80 percent accuracy. Today I easily go 60 wpm... that one incident/response dramatically changed my life professionally and personally.
benefits from learning the keyboard:
Blank Keyboard (Score:1, Interesting)
Model M (Score:3, Interesting)
But really, you might as well just arrange your keys in whatever configuration you like, if you've got a Model M.
Better ones are out there (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Calculator key? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:One Word Answer (Score:1, Interesting)
On another note, perhaps the main buyers of this keyboard will end up being schools for teaching typing.
Re:reason for, reason not for (Score:4, Interesting)
Every so often I marvel at the adaptivity of the human nervous system, the way that I can just think a word and it appears on the screen without my having to pay attention to where my individual fingers go. It's the next best thing to mental telepathy.
Re:Calculator key? (Score:5, Interesting)
I never like the dumb (and utterly uselss) "email" buttons, but I am a fan of the Sun Keyboard [nifty.com] designs. The "cut", "Copy", "paste", "stop" and other keys on the left can be very handy. It's too bad that Unix software is moving away from using such wonderful keys.
The only thing that tends to throw users new to Unix keyboards is the location of the Control key. On Unix keyboards, the Control and Caps Lock are swapped. I actually find it a bit more comfortable, but many people are used to the PC keyboard design.
Re:a tip (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Calculator key? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:a tip (Score:5, Interesting)
Also, after over a decade, none of the key labels had worn off. My laptop is suffering after barely a year. They don't make them like they used to. I doubt this 'extra sensitive' keyboard will be any better, especially since my typing isn't 100% adherent to the traditional touch typing methods; that would render those differed key weights completely useless for me.
Ultimate Geek Keyboard (Score:3, Interesting)
And yes it really helps with finger stress/fatigue, whatever you want to call it.
I just have to deal with being refered to as Edward Keyboardhands, or Keyboardstein by the co-workers.
Still a lil slower than traditional but it's worth not killing my hands.
(I bought mine on ebay but have talked to datahand reps a number of times, they're all very helpful)
Re:Obligatory (Score:5, Interesting)
Now you can have a keyboard.... (Score:3, Interesting)
I always wondered about that. Action cartoons have these huge control panels in the various friendly and enemy bases, with football-field sized consoles with millions of buttons and keys, NONE OF WHICH ARE LABELLED.
I guess people who use those systems must have amazing memory, eh?
-Z
I have a better idea (Score:3, Interesting)
A keyboard that looks up what language and layout you've selected (Dvorak, Kanji, Hebrew, etc), and has teeny LCD displays in every key that automatically display the current symbol said key produces.
Now that would be really cool!
Re:reason for, reason not for (Score:3, Interesting)
This is odd, come to think of it. Since most the people I know used IRC and various BBS chat formats. But we still type like adults. The only colloquial chat slang crap I still use it things like LOL and ROFL, since they mapped to actions on one of my old mBBS boards.
I just gave someone my AIM name, they are of my generation, and are in college for English, so i expected them to have some skills. But then I get a random IM from them, "dud, u wanna go 2 party?
Re:a tip (Score:3, Interesting)
Also, why hasn't there been any real change in keyboard layout? I know the transitioning would suck, but I can think of two minor changes that would make data entry a ton easier: Tab key on numpad, Backspace key for half of the spacebar.
Re:reason for, reason not for (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Victum of Marketing (Score:3, Interesting)
I've typed on a few keyboards like that: the original Commodore PET had the whole keyboard as a grid, and there was a "gamers' keyboard" at the local Micro Center that had just the left half laid out as a grid.
In both cases, the grid-layout keyboards are almost impossible for humans to type on, particularly humans who already know how to type. Even if you've never typed before, I suspect you'd end up cursing at the grid layout. It looks like it would require pretty unnatural finger motions to use.
Actually, the gamers' keyboard looks like it'd be wonderful for gaming (what it was designed for), you'd just need a second keyboard for everything else (not a problem with USB, if you have the desk space for them both).
> other such advances like putting the numpad and home/end, etc keys in the middle so the typing is kind of ergonomical but doesn't have the numpad jetting off waaaayyy over to the right?!?!
Agree 100% about the numpad. In fact my favorite keyboard ever is the IBM Model M Spacesaver, which doesn't have the num pad at all. I really don't miss it (I don't use it on any keyboard at all), but I've seen some serious rapid data entry by people who do use it... The best of both worlds would be to have all keyboards come in two varieties (with or without numpad), or maybe for all keyboards to have removable numpads.
But then I think the best of all possible worlds would be a world where every desk has an IBM Model M on it, so what do I know?
Your idea of moving the home/end/etc. keys to the middle is the best thing I've seen in this thread. They could be grouped together in a row between the existing F-keys and numbers/punctuation, so you could reach them with just a little extra finger stretch instead of having to move your whole hand several inches to the right.
How to remove the lettering? (Score:4, Interesting)
Still not right: Feature List (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:a tip (Score:3, Interesting)
Also, check this [dansdata.com] review for another unusual keyboard.
I can't believe nobody has posted the above info yet. Slashdot has really gone downhill as of late.
Learn DVORAK (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:'Clicky' keyswitches -- for Macs (Score:3, Interesting)
Totally rocks. Mine is about 7 years old, nearly toast, but I can't find a decent other mechanical keyswitch keyboard to replace it with.
Mac compatible.
http://www.sforh.com/keyboards/smartboard.html [sforh.com]
Re:a tip (Score:5, Interesting)
Since mechanical typewriters are museum pieces now, the first justification of QWERTY is now irrelevant. Whether DVORAK does a better job of using both hands equally, and putting the most frequently used keys in the home position is a matter for debate (if not holy wars).
I've tried DVORAK and wasn't impressed enough with it to bother switching from QWERTY. What I want is a keyboard that lets me write code without having to hit the shift key. Imagine being able to type something like this without hitting the shift key once:
With a QUERTY keyboard, I had to hit the shift key 14 seperate times to type that (silly) line of code. I don't think DVORAK is going to be much better. My pinkies ache after a long hacking run.Re:a tip (Score:2, Interesting)
Actually it's those "jkhl" situations when shortcuts are related less to the function than the layout on a keyboard that caused the most problems. When I was first learning Dvorak (five years-ago) remembering cut and paste sucked since I'd memorized where the key was and my mind remembered that I was using a new layout but frequently was running a little too quickly to remember the fact it was X and V I was supposed to be hitting (I printed several things unintentionally).
Re:a tip (Score:4, Interesting)
Lessee, tion is left-right-right-right... er is left-left, ing is left-left-right... hmmm.
No.
Of the unsubstantiated qwerty origin stories, the only one I believe is that having all the letters in the word 'TYPEWRITER' be in the top row. To make sales demos easier. That's the kind of design constraint we all know...
Dvorak is no faster for coding than qwerty. It's really not -faster- for typing generally. It is, however, designed to use the home row for the most frequently hit keys, and for the 'reach' keys, to have the easiest reaches be for common letters. The rarer the letter (or symbol) the harder the
reach. It was designed for typing English words,
though, not C code. It has no real advantages in typing code itself (it does have advantages in typing comments... and variable names that look like dissertations...) Anyway. I use dvorak to reduce my carpal tunnel risks, not for speed.