Cell Phone with Built-in Projector 137
karvind writes "Siemens researchers have developed a cell phone featuring a built-in projector system. A laboratory model was presented at CeBIT 2005 in Hanover. The system makes it possible to project a complete keypad or display onto a surface. With a special pen, users can write on the virtual keypad and operate the phone's functions. Other projection keyboard concepts can be found here and here"
That's not a projector. (Score:4, Funny)
Re:That's not a projector. (Score:1)
It would be neat to see this used for cellphone games: there'd be more space to work with, and the input method would also make life more interesting for designers.
Re:That's not a projector. (Score:1)
Actually a projected keyboard would be great in that sense, that the projected "keycaps" always can match the current keyboard layout... Oh have I longed for a keyboard with some electronic ink on top of the key caps so it could change according to the layout.
Re:That's not a projector. (Score:2)
Re:That's not a projector. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:That's not a projector. (Score:1, Funny)
Re:That's not a projector. (Score:1)
hard to type (Score:5, Insightful)
None of these aspects are well-suited for portable typing. I want a SELMA hologram for my portable electronics interaction.
Re:hard to type (Score:3, Interesting)
But imagine laying in bed and have your phone ring and project the Caller-ID info onto your wall or ceiling so you would/wouldn't have to get out of bed.
That'd be sweet.
Re:hard to type (Score:2, Funny)
I just press the silence button.
Re:hard to type (Score:1)
Too little too late, unfortunately.
Re:hard to type (Score:2, Interesting)
That was a good show, too. Wonder what happened to it.
Re:hard to type (Score:2)
I found episodes on Gnutella, but they were all in German.
If there's 2 things Germans are good at, it's pirating digital content and making cars.
(In case you're wondering what I'm talking about, I'm replying to an AC; lower your threshold to see it.)
Re:hard to type (Score:1)
Projecting Selma (Score:3, Funny)
Re:hard to type (Score:2)
Re:hard to type (Score:2, Interesting)
The real drawback of these devices in my opinion is the lack of tactile feedback - until the character appears on the screen you don't know whether you've hit the key correctly. It's fine for hunt-and-peck typing,
Re:hard to type (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Bald men rejoice! (Score:1, Informative)
Giant Keyboard (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Giant Keyboard (Score:5, Funny)
Think about it: a keyboard you can jump on, plus long and annoying ringtones. Do we really need a cellphone version of DDR?
Re:Giant Keyboard (Score:1)
Uhh... A communist cellphone with a wall around it? No probably not.
Re:Giant Keyboard (Score:1)
Kid: Please mommy, I have to get a new cell phone
Mom: Why in the world would you need a new cell phone
Kid:But its good exercise..
Now that I think about it thats a pretty good marketting campaign...
Re:Giant Keyboard (Score:2)
too clunky... (Score:5, Insightful)
"At first glance, the mobile phone looks exactly like a conventional cell phone."
Re:too clunky... (Score:1, Funny)
TFA didn't say what era the conventional cell phone was from...
Re:too clunky... (Score:2)
along this line to enable very very small cell
phones, what is the point?
Unless it is the precursor to a cell phone/PDA
with a projected viewing screen and keyboard?
Exactly how much more unsafe will it be to use
your cell phone while driving, with the keypad
(, or display & keyboard) projected up onto
the interior of the windshield?
Re:too clunky... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:too clunky... (Score:2)
Furthermore, not all features are created equal. Some are so new and innovative that consumers are worth sacrificing something (like paying money, spending time, carrying something heavey, etc.). Other features are not worth much, and are only accepted once they
Stupid idea.. (Score:2, Funny)
So you'd have to hold the rather klungy cellphone still near a suitable surface and plug the projected keyboard with a thick bluetooth pen? Why not just use morse code by panging your head agaist the wall?
Bluetooth foldable keyboard is a much better choice.
Re:Stupid idea.. (Score:2)
pen operated or can I touch type? (Score:4, Informative)
I remember those (Score:1)
Can't touch-type without touch! (Score:2)
So a projector shouldn't be needed at all. And worse still, there's no feel, so no way to judge where the 'keys' would be. So how can you 'touch-type' with this?
Awesome (Score:3, Insightful)
Also what do you really need a projected keyboard on your cell phone for? Is it really that time consuming to put in a new contact with your keypad, or are people writing 20 page business reports and stuff on them? I'm getting too old for this shit.
Re:Awesome (Score:2)
No, but they are browsing the web more and more on them, and if cellphones keep shrinking to the size of an earring or something, we're going to need SOMEWAY to input to them.
Re:Awesome (Score:2)
- Leela
Re:Awesome (Score:2)
If you RTFA though, you'd see that
mobile? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:mobile? (Score:1)
You might find it easier to think of this as conceptually equivalent to a laptop -- it's mobile in that you can move it around easily, not that you can literally run around while using it.
Re:mobile? (Score:1)
Re:mobile? (Score:2)
Perhaps you can just turn the projector around and it will project everything to the windshield...
Wrong direction (Score:2, Interesting)
Looks to be... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Looks to be... (Score:1)
Cell Phone bloat! (Score:3, Insightful)
Here in Canada, major Telcos charge exorbitantly just for the previledge of being able to send and/or view video. These are features that users do not use that much. How many of you send photos via their cell phones on a regular basis?
Now one sees projectors...next will be God knows what...! Maybe it's because I am in Canada and being charged unfairly. What is the experience of others?
Re:Cell Phone bloat! (Score:1)
I want it all - and I want it in one device. There's nothing negative about using my phone as an mp3-player, camera, notes-taker, email client, games system, web client etc. It's only good.
Yes I work for a cell phone manufacturer.
Re:Cell Phone bloat! (Score:2)
Re:Cell Phone bloat! (Score:1)
b) ppl who complain about "too many features" (features they're not forced to use, or even own) are the actual bloat. I like the features on my phone. Without mobile net access, I couldn't use my mobile telnet client to restart services on my servers whilst I'm away from a connection... but mostly, without the camera, I would have had nothing to take those pics 'n vid clips of my gf stripped, blindfolded, 'n tied down... there's no way ANYONE in my position could argue against mo
Drivers (Score:1)
Do cell phones really need this much capability? I remember seeing PDA phones a couple years ago. This almost seems like a cosmetic technology-advancement. Something for the sole purpose of wowing people into buying things they don't really need (and odds are, won't use).
Re:Drivers (Score:1)
I have a Sidekick II; the screen flips open, and underneath is a QWERTY keyboard (as I mentioned, like, three threads up). When I drove, I still never talked on it, I'd just let it go to voice mail. If I got a text message, I'd still wa
Re:Drivers (Score:1)
No one complains about the responcible drivers.
Speech recognition? (Score:1)
My Nokia 6600 has rudimentary speech recognition software for setting the phone modes and probably (haven't tried it) for selecting the person who you want to call, but it's not working so well that I would trust it yet.
It's been years since I tried speech recognition on computer and I wouldn't want to prepare an entire document that way, but dictating short text message or e-mail could work. "Phone. Text message to Eve. B
Re:Speech recognition? (Score:1)
[0] As opposed to "tea, earl grey, hot".
Re:Speech recognition? (Score:2, Funny)
Yeah, what's the point of that? It'll just deliver a cupful of liquid that is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea. (Or it'll just get it completely wrong and connect you with El Tigré Hutt.)
Re:Speech recognition? (Score:2)
Why doesn't the computer know he always drinks Earl Grey? It knows he doesn't take lemon, doesn't it?
Why does he have to ask for the tea to be hot? Earl Grey is correctly served hot. It knows to serve it in a tea-cup, doesn't it?
Re:Speech recognition? (Score:1)
Re:Speech recognition? (Score:2)
Re:Speech recognition? (Score:2)
Re:Speech recognition? (Score:2)
Re:Speech recognition? (Score:2)
Re:Speech recognition? (Score:2, Funny)
I wouldn't say lag was the problem if I was calling someone who was right next to me.
-2A
Re:Speech recognition? (Score:2)
New excuse (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, right (Score:4, Funny)
Second though: wow, I will have to walk around with two suitcases full of batteries.
no dice.
They've almost got it now. (Score:3, Insightful)
You will pay for it? (Score:2)
you have $79,000 (MSRP) availble to you?
Re:You will pay for it? (Score:2)
rather see one of these attached (Score:2)
Laser keyboards should be able to take up less room though they're probably a bit delicate yet.
they could be made much smaller than they current keyboard applications.
Re:rather see one of these attached (Score:2)
Looks like they aren't coming out any time soon:
link [yahoo.com]
Ultimate convergence device one step closer (Score:2)
Manufacturers clearly realise that the phone in its current size is a device people find comfortable carrying around. This is the device that will end up converging with all the other gadgets that we geeks like to carry around these days.
Personally, I can't wait for the summer day when I don't have to wear a multi-pocket combat jacket with something stuffed in every pocket - camera, phone, PDA, MP3 pl
Re:Ultimate convergence device one step closer (Score:2)
I want a specific telephony feature set. I do not want others.
I want a specific camera. The one bundled on my specific phone will be a joke.
I want a specific media player, and I want it to do exactly specific things.
I want a specific feature set on my PDA. In fact, I don't want a PDA - I want a small PC.
I want specific interfaces on that PDA.
I want specific software on my PDA.
I want a useful display on my
What a waste of time (Score:3, Insightful)
The phone itself is badly designed. (Score:3, Interesting)
Maybe the projection system could make up for this by projecting a standard number button array so it can be used. However, it would be a lot simpler if they used a standard number array on the phone itself.
Re:The phone itself is badly designed. (Score:1)
If the user wants to phone someone using a cell phone, they typically search for a contact by name rather than enter the number using the keypad.
But still (Score:2)
But even then, they have to enter the numbers on by the silly "Stylish, but not very functional" keypad to get them into the phone contact list in the first place! Unless they connect their phones to something else, like a computer, to enter their numbers. Few users do that. Also, I use my cell phone just by dialing the number, and most others I know do this too
Tangible Tools (Score:4, Interesting)
As long as I'm writing SF, how about the MEMs sheet un/rolling itself from the stylus? And including sensors, rather than a video sensor? Or the phone with a fiberoptic jack for projecting the interface image through the sheet itself? Somebody gimme a budget!
Re:Tangible Tools (Score:2)
If you're carrying around a thin rubber sheet, you might as well use one of those thin rubber rollable keyboards.
Re:Tangible Tools (Score:2)
Re:Tangible Tools (Score:2)
But "nothing" is inadequate.
You're thinking about this problem -- and "nothing" -- in a very 20th century way. I agree that, as things stand now -- with virtual keyboards working as one-way projection systems, splashing visible light on a surface, you're right, you will only get visible feedback and it won't really feel usable. But do you think your finger has to touch a rubber button to feel like it's t
Re:Tangible Tools (Score:2)
Re:Tangible Tools (Score:2)
Now you're thinking like an open-sourcer. Which, frankly, is a shame. Or didn't you know that you were able to convert "dreams" like these into things called patents?
You, with all your ideas, thinking of your dreams as just dreams when you could be credited as the person responsible for the idea of _______. Those dreams, Doc Ruby, should be developed. By you. Even if the technology isn't there today. When you see where w
Re:Tangible Tools (Score:2)
Re:Tangible Tools (Score:2)
I was all cagey when I brought up Jonas Salk earlier. My apologies. L
Nice idea, evil company (Score:2)
It's not that useful, is it? (Score:1)
Ah, but the service providers... (Score:4, Insightful)
To use this virtual interface, you'll need to subscribe to Verizon's easy-write(TM) service. It's only $4.99 a month!
Minesweeper anyone? (Score:4, Funny)
PHB: Why are you spending so much time in the bathroom?
Peon: Uh... none of your business.
PHB: Why were you tapping on the stall walls for?
Peon: If you were stuck up like me, you're be tapping the walls too.
PHB: Why did you yell "You bastard!" when I walked by?
Peon: Hey! Can't a guy take a difficult dump around her?
PHB: Not in this company!
SIEMENS did not invent this (Score:2)
improvement? (Score:1)
I stand corrected (Score:3, Informative)
keyboard.
http://www.globes.co.il/DocsEn/did=875104.htm
i want a cell phone with a built in death ray (Score:3, Funny)
Text (Score:1)
Another way to distract the user... (Score:1)
...from the fact that cell phones fail miserably at their one actual purpose; vocal communication. I'd like to see providers supply users with a product that fufills it's primary objective before gluing things like cameras, qwertys... or now... lasers... onto it. The slogan "Can you hear me now?" sums up the entire industry in a nutshell (though why a company would choose to spend millions associating themselves with phrase usually spoken in desparation while using the device they sell is beyond me). Give m
Am I missing something here? (Score:3, Interesting)
Unless they can make the virtual keyboard work reliably with people's fingers, I doubt this will be very successful.
RMN
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...built-in pocket protector? SWEET! (Score:1)
Next thing you know... (Score:1)
Re:advantage to typing on hard surfaces (Score:2, Funny)
mno adcverrsde efdfexcts ghere!"
Re:Help me Obi Wan Kenobi! (Score:2)