Hot-Rodding A Bluetooth Adapter 145
carbolic writes "Remember the Bluetooth records where we 'modded an adapter' and connected to a cell phone first from 1 kilometer, then from 1 mile away? Popular Science has the hack in the November issue (or online now) with instructions. Additional step-by-step is laid out here for USB, and and here for PCMCIA. Soldering is required, but come on - you can't be a true geek without learning to solder."
I like to solder!!! (Score:1)
Programmers with soldering irons (Score:5, Funny)
Even more frightening than programmers with screwdrivers.
Re:Programmers with soldering irons (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Programmers with soldering irons (Score:1)
Give new meaning to the word "hackers"
Re:Programmers with soldering irons (Score:1, Funny)
Now on topic: This looks like a verry interesting idea and when i get my pcmcia adapter I may do this.
Re:Programmers with soldering irons (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Programmers with soldering irons (Score:1)
Based on my experience (Score:2)
I'm a programmer who used to do industrial automation. I know what I'm talking about here. I was the guy with the slodering iron. Also the oscilloscope, Vom, various test leads, crimper, and laptop with programming tools. I was much less dangerous with the laptop. Less likely to find the bad ground on the 480VAC systems too.
Solder globbing (Score:5, Informative)
The bigger the glob, the better the job!
Basic soldering [elexp.com] tips.
Re:Solder globbing (Score:4, Funny)
I'm sorry, were you talking about soldering or masturbating?
Re:Solder globbing (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Solder globbing (Score:2)
Re:Solder globbing (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Solder globbing (Score:1)
Here's one..
Clean Clean Clean. Without clean solder, clean tip, clean surface, and clean component legs, no amount of skill will get you a good joint as the solder will not flow correctly. If you start clean, all that is left is fine tuning your heat bridge skills and using the correct amount of solder. You can get a good joint with practice. All oxidation and oils must be removed from all things for the rest of the process to work. There are fi
Error on linked page. (Score:2)
REFERENCE (Score:2)
Another Source [bcae1.com]
A source from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (PDF) [unc.edu]
Re:Error on linked page. (Score:1)
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I'm a nerd! Not a sprinter! (Score:5, Funny)
Great hack..
Re:I'm a nerd! Not a sprinter! (Score:5, Funny)
long distance toothing? (Score:2, Funny)
That's only only until they drop the f***in hammer (Score:3, Funny)
Oh, that tears it, drop the f***in hammer!
Soldering (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Soldering (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Soldering (Score:1)
Burrrrr! (Score:5, Informative)
The fact that these guys are using what looks like their kid brother's woodburning kit as a soldering iron (just look at the size of this thing compared to the size of the pad they are working on), the fact that they didn't prepare the coax (tin the leads) BEFORE they put it into place, or the fact that they are blithly ignoring the part 15 regs which DO NOT ALLOW an external antenna to be installed on a device like this.
Oh, let us not forget that the cable they are using is not rated for the Bluetooth frequency range, and will have a pretty significant attenuation at those frequencies, that the connectors they are using will not have a good impedance match at Bluetooth frequencies...
Re:Burrrrr! (Score:2)
They take something apart, break it, buy another.
Linksys is happy, and if everyone keeps their mouth shut the FCC never knows about it.
If, on the off chance, the FCC does find out about it...well our government could ALWAYS use more money, so slap the modders with a fine. I'm ok with it because Bluetooth I have not.
Re:Burrrrr! (Score:3, Insightful)
No, the FCC can still find out about it if it investigated a lot of complaints of interference... there is a reason devices are only allowed ot transmit a certain range!
Re:Burrrrr! (Score:2)
Check out this NPR radio segment [npr.org] where Peter Rojas of Engadget [engadget.com] talks about hardware hacking the iPod and other stuff.
Re:Burrrrr! (Score:2)
Err.. or something.
Re:Burrrrr! (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Burrrrr! (Score:2)
It looks like they are using 2.4 GHz band antennas (probably intended for WiFi use), evidently Bluetooth is in the same band.
Probably not much of an SWR problem.
Re:Woodburning iron (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Woodburning iron (Score:2)
That sounds like a pretty nasty burn...
Re:Burrrrr! (Score:2)
A lot of people are violating FCC regs for wireless networking and the FCC has yet to crack down on people setting up illegal antennas, even though they are very aware of the phenomenon. Bluetooth falls under that same band, though usually lower power.
Re:Burrrrr! (Score:2, Insightful)
I think the camera they're using lets them get pictures up close. I thought it looked like a normal pencil-iron with a beat-up tip.
Years ago, I picked up a Weller soldering station when they were on sale. More expensive than a cheap pencil, but well worth it, especially on larger projects. (Just having a solid holder for the iron has probably saved me a few burns.)
Tip: Never solder projects without full-length pants.
-1, Parent poster is a shithead (Score:5, Informative)
Re:-1, Parent poster is a shithead (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Burrrrr! (Score:3, Funny)
Elegence is beautiful thing - but sometimes you just long for a bit of cobbled together crap that barely does the job and has a pretty good chance of either killing you, or at the very least fucking up your neighbours radio reception.
I actually wish they'd be a bit LESS competent!!
Re:Burrrrr! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Burrrrr! (Score:3, Interesting)
As for your other points: Step 7 == Tin The Shield, LMR-100 is the most common pigtail for "low-loss" at 2.4GHz, FCC regs tend to encourage experimentation (debateable), and the frikken thing worked over 1 Mile - depsite the under-engineered design flaws.
Practical Application (Score:3, Funny)
Step 1: Fit USB Bluetooth Adapter to victim's PC
Step 2: Sneak up to one mile away
Step 3: Use Bluetooth mouse/keyboard to control them
Of course, from practical jokes comes food for thought of serious security implications.
Have a look at AtStake's Ollie Whitehouse's [ruxcon.org.au] presentation on Bluetooth insecurities and be extra afraid that you can't look around the room for the attacker any more.
Re:Practical Application (Score:1)
I can't hear someone walking a mile away, let alone see them (usually buildings are in the way and such)
Geeks do not solder (Score:2, Insightful)
Sorry, but it's true. Ask around at the next anime convention or star wars message board...you'll see what I'm talking about.
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:3, Interesting)
-Peter
PS: You're right about Radio Shack, though. They're too focused on cell phones and cheap RC cars these days. It's Fistell's [fistells.com] for Denver geeks.
-Peter
Fistell's rocks (Score:2)
It was a lot of fond memories, then a rude surprise to read that David had died in 2002. [fistells.com] His family is apparently still running the store, but that really changes the mood of the day, ya know?
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:2)
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Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:3, Insightful)
The willingness to experiment with technology makes you a geek. That may involve learning to code, to solder, or to work metal.
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:3, Insightful)
The modern geek is pretty clueless how the hardware he uses works. Most would not know what to do with a soldering iron, even given an unlimited supply of logic ICs, circuit boards, etc.
Geeks play computer games, download pornography, program (sometimes), and IRC.
The geekdom bar has really lowered hasn't it? It used to be that geek implied some sort of competence. Now it
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:2)
-Jess
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:2)
Anyone who does not know how things work is not a pureblood geek. They are a half breed and are polluting the geek master . . . uh, this is getting ugly isn't it?
Ok. .
Hacker geek: one who solders, bodges logic and code to do ones bidding
Nerdy geek: one who doesn't.
how's that.?
-nB
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:2)
How *what* works? I have been coding since back when you had to solder together the computer first (S-100, yum), and I've tossed together a couple .com executables under DOS with raw opcodes. Am I a geek? Naw... my girlfriend is a geek:
She can't solder, she can't program. She *can* however, rip apart spinach to a molecular level, maintaining
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:2)
My point is that many of the "Geeks" are not. Geekdom IMHO is an in depth understanding of one's field that can only be gotten with a love for that field.
If you're doing "a job" you are not a geek. If you are getting paid to play with whatever you love then you are a geek.
-nB
Doc's Taxonomy (Score:2)
You are an "ubergeek" - as long as your esoteric projects sometimes work. If you're an informed, though noncreative, expert, you're just a (default) "geek". If they never work, then you're a "nerd". If you never turn to machines for alternative to your social dysfunctions, but rather other humans with your limitations, you're a "dork". If you work out your antisocial tendencies with others, in sports, you
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:2)
I think "geek" is now more of a term that encompasses all the "geeky" specialties. There's very few general geeks anymore.
I know basically how all my computers work because I read the schematics of all my hardware in technotes. I know when I open any of them what all the ICs are because of reading those schematics. Do
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:2, Interesting)
Nerds don't know how to solder, as they never like to deal with physical reality.
However, being a geek is a hands on job, not distancing yourself from technology. What could be more geeky than building your own computer?
Also, you can have carpentry geeks, hi-fi geeks who build their own equipment from tubes and transformers.....
Geeks are good at what they do, and like to take things apart. Nerds watch from the sidelines and read about it on
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:1)
Yeah, if you're stephen hawking...
humm, i don't have karma to burn.
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:2)
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:2)
NERDS on the other hand, have long been handy with a soldering iron, and any other tool on your basic electronics work bench.
I am a Nerd, I am a systems administrator, I have a fully populated electronics workbench at home though I have no formal tranining in the field. Currently I am working with PIC microcontrollers. Its a nice blend of coding, computer interfac
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:2)
Geeks are just socialy backward people who do weird things, like
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:2)
There's dozens of articles [slashdot.org] just from the last couple of months that disagree with this view. Geeks solder, weld, work with liquid nitrogen, regularly cannibalize and hack cameras and gaming consoles, harness power from hamsters... Perhaps you're just not paying sufficient attention to the hardware hacking articles.
Re:Geeks do not solder (Score:2)
And yes we do solder.
This geek solders (Score:1)
All the geeks I know solder. The *real* geeks solder surface mount ICs with hot air guns and toaster ovens, and design their own multilayer PCBs using ExpressPCB's excellent services. They get their SMD parts from Digikey, which has done very well catering to those Radio Shack can't be bothered with any more.
Disclaimer - I'm not financially interested in the above companies, except in a negative sense...they seem to take a lot of my money!
Microwave radiation? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Microwave radiation? (Score:2, Funny)
Ok bye, im off to eat.
Miniscule (Score:2)
That's nice, but (Score:5, Funny)
Who cares about soldering? These are the details that we need to know.
Re:That's nice, but (Score:2)
The sad fact is the only reason I know what you're talking about is because I watched the anime Initial D...
Yes, I am a nerd.
pishaw... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:pishaw... (Score:2)
Especially on something this basic... seriously.
-nB
Re:pishaw... (Score:1)
Real Users never use the Help key.
I thought firefox had rendered your post funny, but then realised im at work on IE
another slashvertisement (Score:3, Informative)
Dude, if you're going to post a story that's entirely within your online store, at least say so! You're making nifty stuff, geeks are likely to want it, but don't do this kind of astroturfing crap.
Did anybody read this as (Score:4, Funny)
I thought WTF happened to the once calm, collected, slashdot geeks, ones who only goe to war if it is a Flame War.
Maybe, Bill has pissed them off one too many times. Now that the assualt weapons ban has lapsed - THEY ARE TAKING UP ARMS NOW.
weee (Score:1)
WLAN jammer (Score:4, Informative)
Antenna (Score:2)
Re:Antenna (Score:1)
It would cause interference because it's both a transmitter and a receiver.
Re:Antenna (Score:2)
regardless - still stupid.
Re:WLAN jammer (Score:2, Interesting)
Eric
Re:WLAN jammer (Score:2)
Choose your weapon (Score:2)
Re:Choose your weapon (Score:2)
Re:Choose your weapon (Score:1)
They don't work (Score:3, Interesting)
try one). They are unable to put enough current through an object to
heat it to solder-melting temperature, unless the object is very small
and delicate (read: a solid-state component that would be easy to damage
by using a soldering iron that deliberately passes current through the
connection being made). It is tough to solder anything larger than or
equal to the size of a 1/8-watt resistor lead with this iron, and you
can forget doing ante
Re:They don't work (Score:2, Informative)
As for Radio shack, the
Can't say that I do... (Score:3, Funny)
Nope. Not at all. I have this thing called a "life".
not much of a mod (Score:1)
Cantenna (Score:3, Interesting)
"hot-rodding"? What decade is this? (Score:1)
Re:"hot-rodding"? What decade is this? (Score:2)
Same technique can be applied to iTrip (Score:2)
Makes me wanna mod my iTrip so bad. If anything just for the larger antenna.. the amp is nice but I think it introduces an unneccesary level of complexity. Or maybe the mod is useless without the amp??
How long til you can hack into a PC this way? (Score:1)
Prying tool (Score:2)
I used a "prying tool" last night on my old iBook battery to get in to replace the cells.
Re:Prying tool (Score:2)
doing this to a wifi card (Score:1)
alienation (Score:1)
"you can't be a true geek without learning to solder."
sigh... you can't be a true geek without
regularly alienating 99% of the population.
(tho this comment gets up to 99.5 for excluding
non-hardware true geeks)
The mod needs to be on both sides, right? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:We need useful hacks (Score:4, Informative)
Re:We need useful hacks (Score:3, Funny)
Unless the people who say that EMFs and very high and very low frequency radio waves can kill you are right, I think this is great!
I'll just wear a lead apron until they tell me one way or the other....