Cheap DivX Solution For Your Entertainment Center 275
joemite writes "I-O DATA recently announced the release of their LinkPlayer, which can decode DivX files from DVDs, CDs, USB thumb drives, and network file shares. At $249 suggested retail, I know what I'm wishing for this Christmas!" For simpler (no network shares, no thumb drives) and even cheaper set-ups, a few standalone DVD players -- the Philips DVP642 is one -- will play DivX files from recordable CDs andd DVDs.
But does it support Xvid? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:But does it support Xvid? (Score:5, Informative)
Supported Video MPEG-1/MPEG-2/DivX® VIDEO/XviD/WMV9
Re:But does it support Xvid? (Score:5, Informative)
No MPEG-4 Global Motion Compensation (Score:3, Informative)
Sigma 8620L that is used in this player does not support GMC.
Re:But does it support Xvid? (Score:3, Insightful)
The $249 would be better spent on a DVD Writer (especially since they are so affordable these days), several hundre
Re:But does it support Xvid? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:But does it support Xvid? (Score:4, Insightful)
I wish there's some kind of video/dvd player that has small harddrive where we can install the latest codecs/plugins
There is. It's called an Xbox. And even if you live in an area with anti-modchip laws and strict enforcement thereof, there's always Mini-ITX boxes.
Re:But does it support Xvid? (Score:4, Informative)
MythTV (Score:5, Insightful)
Cute, but I still plan to build my own around MythTV [mythtv.org]. That will work both ways (allowing me to record TV and then view it over the network) as well as dealing with DVDs and MAME.
Re:MythTV (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:MythTV (Score:3, Informative)
Cheaper Divx (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Cheaper Divx (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Cheaper Divx (Score:2)
xbox does that better(modded, of course)..
Re:Cheaper Divx (Score:2)
Ever tried the VCD player? VCD's have, by standard, constant bit rates and pretty easy to decode as they are uncompressed files - the Dreamcast doesn't do that task very well. You'll notice blocks and 'smears' where you never seen them before.
Re:Cheaper Divx (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Cheaper Divx (Score:5, Informative)
Well, you've not had the right VCD's! I've encoded some beauties. Plus you need a good decoder, because as I mentioned some don't fully decode the entire stream (they do their best giving you artifacts).
The issue about resolution is *almost* pointless when you realize your TV (if not HD) isn't that great to begin with and it scales very well.
But then again it all goes back to good encoding.
Re:Cheaper Divx (Score:2)
Won't the MPIAA have a hissyfit? (Score:2, Interesting)
Sounds a bit pricey (Score:3, Interesting)
But what about buying an S-Video cable to hook into the TV, and play it from your computer? Or even better, some cheap DVD encoding software to play it on anyone's system?
Re:Sounds a bit pricey (Score:3, Informative)
I bought one a few weeks back and it plays pretty well.
Re:Sounds a bit pricey (Score:2)
Re:Sounds a bit pricey (Score:2)
I think there's a decent niche market for a product like this. I know quite a few people that would buy something like this at the $250 price point instea
Well, it does also upsample to 1080i (Score:2)
Re:Sounds a bit pricey (Score:2)
It comes with an ethernet and USB2.0 port. Both are pretty damn cool. Not bad for $250.
Frankly, I'd like to have one so I could dump all my DVD collection onto my computer and be able to play them on-demand. I used to have a computer with an S-Video out to do that. To be honest, I wasn't all that happy with the picture quality. It worked, but I ached for better.
Re:Sounds a bit pricey (Score:3, Interesting)
Do you have any idea how long rerendering to MPEGII takes? Not only that, but you have to create some kind of menu system to even read the files!
I'd much prefer the hour or two it takes to Burn to the eight hours of computation + hour of human labor of creating a DVD from scratch. I can even do that right before bed and have a brand new DVD waiting for me in the morning.
I WANT! (Score:2, Insightful)
I'd rather wish for a chipped Xbox (Score:3, Interesting)
On the downside the chipping process may be on the wrong side of "legal" depending on where you are, and the majority applications are, as they're compiled using MS's SDK. Other than that it is excellent, much better than any stand-alone appliance I have come across.
Not that great of a value.... (Score:5, Informative)
You save $50 and you have a lot more functionality.
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:5, Informative)
Did I say downside?
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:2)
But will you be able to connect to Xbox Live? I never realized how much I sucked until I got my ass handed over and over and over to me in almost any network capable game. But dang, was it fun.
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:2)
Just remember that it's better to make up for a loss on the hardware and not have a customer buy your games than it is to not make up for a loss on the hardware and not have a customer buy your games.
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:5, Informative)
Microsoft spent a lot of money developing the xbox. Microsoft also spent a lot on infrastructure, advertising, and other such 'fixed' costs. When you calculate the cost to MS of every xbox they sell, you amortise these fixed costs over all xboxes sold, along with the variable cost (the cost per unit). A naive conclusion from this is that when you buy an xbox, Microsoft loses money. If you instead compute the raw cost of producing an xbox to MS (i.e. just the variable cost), then you find it costs them less than you paid for it. Conclusion: Every time you buy an xbox, MSFT's coffers are increased.
How do you reconcile those two things? Pretty easily. MS makes money off the sale of their xbox hardware, but not enough to justify them developing the xbox. Some people buy xbox games, and these people make MSFT a lot of profit. Is this profit enough to justify the money they've blown bringing a product to market? Perhaps, or perhaps not, we'll see. But every time you buy an xbox, you know you're helping make Bill just that tiny bit richer.
In case you haven't got it yet, let me give you an analogy. Say you've got a business idea, your company: "Winc" is going to start selling bottled water for $50/bottle. You plan to spend $50M on advertising to convince people that they really want to buy your water - it is much more cool than the water evian sells, for instance. Now, anybody could tell you this is a stupid business plan, and it is going to lose money because hardly anybody will buy the water. But an accountant would describe it in terms of the profit (loss) per bottle sold. In this case, you might be loosing $10,000 for every bottle you sell. But if I walk into a shop and buy a bottle, you make almost $50 profit. Do you follow?
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:3, Informative)
And production costs are expected to be an unusually high $375 per machine because of the console's advanced features, Blodget said in the report. Blodget estimates Microsoft will "lose $125 on every Xbox console--and that's before taking into account" sales, marketing and other administrative costs.
linky [com.com]
I don't doubt that the cost of
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:3, Informative)
Your point is well taken, and the popular belief that Microsoft loses money on the consoles might well be wrong. But you didn't really gi
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:2)
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Xbox on the other hand with xbmc plays it all, divx, wmp, xvid, quicktime, real media, you name it. I have seriously yet to see a media format it won't play with absolute perfection.
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:4, Informative)
Using the proven "UDE softmod" method, all you need is a rented game, a homemade USB2Xbox adapter and a USB thumbdrive to mod your Xbox.
Total cost: $5-10
And yes, this will 100% unlock your Xbox just the same as a $50 modchip would.
For more info, check out: http://how2xbox.com/ [how2xbox.com] and/or http://www.xbox-scene.com/ [xbox-scene.com]
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:2)
They're not arresting people for having a mod chip installed.
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:2)
and really, how would just installing an empty modchip fundamentally difference from slapping on a flash cart on your gba?
Re:Not that great of a value.... (Score:2, Informative)
Of course an adapter is needed to connect a USB device to one of the controller ports, but these are widely and cheaply available, microsoft will even supply these! (offically to be used with PSO for keyboards, PSO is an MMORPG)
It is worth noting that the controllers include a "usb hub" of sorts, with the two memory slots in the top of each controller, as an unmodded xbox seems
Don't Jump the Gun (Score:2)
Commercial DivX DVDs? (Score:2, Interesting)
I wonder if companies will produce DivX DVDs/CDs for retail sales... that would be pretty neat.
Come to think of it, this is kind of like buying an MP3 stereo/player. I still haven't seen any MP3 CD at my local CD retail yet, but I've seen people burning their own MP3 CDs. At least there aren't record companies going after these MP3 player makers yet, hopefully this will hold true for these divx players.
Philips DVP642 player mentioned (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Philips DVP642 player mentioned (Score:2, Informative)
DVD players (Score:2)
It seems that in the race to support more formats and features, quality is forgotten. A lot of my friends that bought players that play DivX, XviD and other permutations complain that their playback quality of regular MPEG-2 DVDs is lower than their older players.
Let's hope that the upcoming players based on the Sigma Designs' new EM8620L [sigmadesigns.com] chip will be better than the current bunch.
Re:Philips DVP642 player mentioned (Score:3, Insightful)
mencoder -tv driver=v4l:width=640:height=480:norm=NTSC:chanlis t =us-cable -vf crop=625:478:8:2,pp=de/lb -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=2000 -oac mp3lame -lameopts cbr:br=64 -o /home/dkr/vid/tv.avi tv://
With that method, the dvp642 just plays the sound. Too bad it doesn't have an error console to say ex
Standalones are cheap (Score:2, Insightful)
phozz
Xbox, cheaper, more effective (Score:4, Insightful)
New Xbox $150
Mod Chip $30-60
40 Gig HD $40
Total: $220-250
Will play DVDs region free, divx, xvid, quicktime, wmv, mpeg, avi, dv, mp3, view photos/slideshow, stream mp3 from internet radio stations, get the weather... etc.
Only true geeks will want the hardware mentioned in the article... and true geeks can do much better, cheaper, and have more fun doing it themselves.
Maybe two years ago (Score:2)
Now, there are dozens out there, and none of them have half the functionality, much less the low price, of a modded XBox.
The fact that the Xbox also plays games is essentially a bonus feature -- it's a $150 universal media player that sets up in minutes and plays very well with other high-end AV components.
Mmm, Engrish. (Score:5, Funny)
"And DHCP server function help you to setup IP address automatically.We guarantee you, your familiy or your guest have an exciting time!"
"Oustside enjoy listening music or shooting photos, and then after going back home, you just insert your gadjet to this USB port. LinkPlayer can pickup inside any files for your relax time."
"LinkPlayer remote controller is not normal. Many buttons for your convinience."
"We will keep to make much effort for your satisfaction. Now the following certifications have already been passed. Also we'll update more after finish. Don't miss anymore."
Re:Mmm, Engrish. (Score:5, Funny)
Your baby boy handles DHCP? I try to assign children IP address but they can't be bothered to remember even the most simple of subnets. They all drop packets too, and where the hell do you put the RJ-45 jack?
DVP642 is really nice (Score:2, Redundant)
Only problem I've run into is playing PAL files on a NTSC TV - tried changing its output format, but no luck. Anyone have that working? It could be an old DivX file (it does have some problems with 3.11), I'm not sure. But, overall, this thing's amazing.
philips dvp642 (Score:2, Informative)
Re:philips dvp642 (Score:2)
Have you tried a firmware update? I've been meaning to do this with my dvp642, but haven't gotten around to it yet (playing around with my "special" Xbox
Divx player prices: (Score:4, Informative)
DVD Player Compatibility List [videohelp.com] at VideoHelp.com
Goodmans DivX Decoder (Score:3, Informative)
If you are in the UK you can pick one up for £60 from Argos [argos.co.uk]. I have one, and find that it works very well whilst also looking good. All my videos play fine except for Real Player ones.
GeeXboX (Score:2)
Re:GeeXboX (Score:2)
DVP642 FFmpeg problems, and PC tv-out issues (Score:5, Interesting)
My main annoyance with PC tv-out's (i.e. the one on my MythTV box) is that they don't provide 1:1 scanline mapping output of the video. In other words, the video card provides you with a framebuffer of arbitrary size (640x480, 800x600, etc.) and maps that into about 400 or so lines of NTSC output. In other words, it destructively scales the image and breaks the ability to show true interlaced content. It's possible to "overscan" the output, but this in no way guarantees a 1:1 scanline mapping. I do have a PVR350, which does have a proper 1:1 scanline mapping, but the last time I tried using it for general video output (i.e. playing MPEG4 files with mplayer), it was not fast enough to keep up. It's incredible for playing back MPEG2 content with the decoder, though.
If the LinkPlayer works well and has a proper, well-designed TV out, it may be worth looking into.
Re:DVP642 FFmpeg problems, and PC tv-out issues (Score:2)
It's a shame, I've been looking for the right networked DVD
Nobody mentioned the best bit. (Score:3, Interesting)
What's wrong with laptops? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:What's wrong with laptops? (Score:2)
Re:What's wrong with laptops? (Score:2)
Re:What's wrong with laptops? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What's wrong with laptops? (Score:2, Informative)
That's not the only option. (Score:2)
ATI Video Cards with TV Out (Score:4, Informative)
The 9200SE [ati.com] supports the latest games and dual monitors with DIV and has TV out/s video all for about $80cdn Yes my computer has to be close to the TV but I also have it conected to my stereo for home theatre and mp3s. Playing movies from the hard drive also saves having to burn DVDs/CDs. For me, it was the cheapest way to have my home multimedia centre.
Re:ATI Video Cards with TV Out (Score:3, Informative)
Re:ATI Video Cards with TV Out (Score:2)
I was also a little leary of buying a Divx/DVD player as you never know how long the format is good for. Now that I have integrated my computer with my TV and stereo I am kicking myself for not doing it sooner. Whenever I want to watch something on my
$60 player... (Score:2)
Re:$60 player... (Score:2)
And upgrading codecs? (Score:2)
Re:And upgrading codecs? (Score:2)
besides, it wouldn't be that far fetched for there to be firmware updgrades, other similar devices get them.
Liteon DVD players (Score:2, Informative)
I also have a LVW-5001 [liteonit.com].
It's wonderful, too, even though it doesn't play mpeg4. I swapped out the original Liteon 401M optical drive, for a newer 812S drive. I also adde
hauppauge mediamvp (Score:2)
There's pleny of mediamvp hacking [shspvr.com] (including work on a mythtv client) and 3rd party client replacements out there like gbpvr [gbpvr.com] (how to article on my site [byopvr.com] )
*Shrug*
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xbox? (Score:2)
A $150 soft-modded XBox [xbox-scene.com] pre-installed with the more capable XBox Media Center [xboxmediacenter.de], and a $100 gift certificate with the money left over? :)
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This is retarded! (Score:2)
This "divx player" is an overpriced turd in comparison.
Similar devices: (Score:2)
Go Video [govideo.com]
KISS [kiss-technology.com] (runs Linux)
Supposedly Gateway has one too, but perhaps they discontinued it. Could only find this Google cache link [66.102.7.104].
D-Link [d-link.com]
And I'm sure I've missed quite a few. All have slightly different configurations; my goal was to find a box that would play media from the network.
Furthermore, I want the device to play DVD images (I rip ISO images using DVDDecrypter so I don't loose all the extra DVD stuff). I am not sure any of them actually support that. I
Standalone players (Score:2, Informative)
Well at least here in Europe we've been having cheap (under $100) DivX-capable players since the beginning of the year. Last time I went to our local supermarket I could spot FIVE different ones, all under $100 except for the Philips one. And guess what, the cheap ones tend to accept a much wider range of disks and formats.
I've got an "El-cheapo" one, based on a MEDIATEK 1389-DE chip, and
DIVX + Ethernet Compatibility List (Score:3, Informative)
Whatever happened to LinkSys? (Score:2)
Press release: http://www.linksys.com/press/press.asp?prid=142&c y ear=2004
The product was announced in Q1 CY 2004. It was slated to be released in Q1 CY 2004. it's now Q4 CY 2004.
It was announced as if it was almost on the market, they said 2-3 months you could purchase it. Here we are 10 months later, not a peep.
any player that plays them all (qpel, gmc) ? (Score:2, Interesting)
Why pay more than $50 for a DVD player? (Score:2)
Some of these DVD players use generic DV
Instead (Score:2)
Re:Instead (Score:2)
Um. You understand that current consumer-level wireless gear has some pretty strict bandwidth limitations, right? You also understand that TV sets are pretty brain-dead and require RCA, S-video, or (whatever that 75-ohm connector was called) input, right? So, to do all this crap wirelessly, you'd need a way to transfer 30 640
The obvious answer is a Xbox (Score:2)
Instead of doing that I just got an Xecuter3 Modchip for my Xbox... soldered the baby in, and installed Xbox Media Center, and well it doesn't just play any DVD I throw its way but also DIVX, XVID etc, best $60 I have spend in a long time...and its kinda neat to FTP into your xbox.
Is this really news? There's tons of these. (Score:2, Insightful)
My solution- playing DVD's & DivX from the net (Score:3, Informative)
networked video server, recently I finally got it working. The objective
was to be able to play DVD's seamlessly from a server share, by seamlessly I
mean complete with menus, extras etc., with high quality video and digital
sound. In theory a 100Mbit LAN should have enough bandwidth since DVD's
video stream is at most 9Mbit, the most difficult part was putting together
a quiet client machine capable of generating a good quality analog video
signal. I ended up buying a cheap ($400) Dell Poweredge machine on ebay,
it's practically silent, this is important since it sits beside the TV. For
DVD decoding I'm using something called the XCard
(http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products/xcar
outputs digital audio. On the software side I am using TVedia
(http://www.8dim.com/default.asp?linkid=v
TV to access media on the LAN. It also works quite well with the XCard,
which comes with a serial port IR remote sensor. To make a DVD playable from
the network I use DVDDecrypter to create an iso image and daemon tools to
mount the image on a virtual drive, TVedia can then play the "disc" as if it
was in the local machine's drive. The system is pretty neat if I do say so
myself. I picked up a couple of Maxtor 250G drives from Frys, that's about
50-100 DVDs online. In theory I could stick another cheap PC in the bedroom
and have access to the movie collection there also.
Cheapo DVD players rock my world..... (Score:3, Informative)
Plays DivX, MOV, etc. Pretty much anything you can throw at it, except WMV and Real (but who cares about them anyway...).
About the only thing I'd want it to do that it doesn't currently would be handle multisession data disks so I can add files to compilations as new
It's also got a monitor output, so if my housemate's using the TV I can plug it into my computer's monitor and deprive
Oh, and it even plays DVDs...
Have had this for a few months now (Score:2, Informative)
IO-DATA also sells a nice embedded linux NAS (120, 160, 250, 300gb versions available plus you can add 2 external usb2 drives) that has the server-side support to stream video to the linkplayer so you don't have to leave a PC on.
Firmware updates are distributed directly from the net too.
I'm really happy with it - makes me glad I bothered to wire ethernet to my livi
Re:Have had this for a few months now (Score:3, Informative)
The only device I've found that does is the TViX (www.tvix.co.kr). With the TViX, you simply dump a DVD onto its hard drive, and then play the video_ts.ifo file and it's indistinguishable from playing the disc on regular player (eg. you get the menus). It even has optical audio out and component video out. Unfortunately the TViX doesn't
Circuit City, right? (Score:2)
I heard these are way better than DVDs.
I'm not buying one of these... (Score:2)
It wouldn't be that hard to implement in cmos.
And the newbie non-tech people can just ignore that feature, or have it "serviced" by a local geek.
Re:Quality (Score:2, Informative)
You know you can
1. Do two pass encoding
2. Use a ***HIGHER BITRATE***
Those rips off kazaa you got 2 years ago were probably one-pass 384kbps files or something...
Two-pass 2Mbps should look perfect even at 720x480. If you're not so anal you can get by with as little as 800Kbps.
Tom
Re:how bout an xbox? (Score:2)
Re:I have the Philips DVP-642 (Score:4, Informative)
Hold down the STOP button on the remote for a few seconds to eject the disk.