Hip-e All-In-One PC 413
stallard writes "Yahoo! News reports this story:
'In November, Digital Lifestyles Group Inc. plans to ship the
hip-e, a new Windows-based PC inspired by the iMac, specifically designed to cater to teenagers. It was Chairman and CEO Kent Savage's own experience after his son asked him for an iMac that led to the new all-in-one system's creation.'"
Specs? (Score:5, Insightful)
CPU?
Latest Intel processor: high performance, low power consumption, quiet, Intel Pentium-M System
Memory?
Plenty of memory capacity - up to 2GB
The configuration page [hip-e.com] only lets you add accessories and change the "skins" for the computer.
Vague specs and zero customability! hip-e, Fuck Yeah!
Re:Specs? (Score:5, Funny)
If anybody wants me, I'll be outside watching fire rain from the sky and the seas turn to blood...
m-
Re:Specs? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Specs? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Specs? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Specs? (Score:5, Informative)
DVD Player/CD Burner Drive
1.5GHz Intel Pentium M Processor
High Performance Video
512MB SDRAM Memory (expandable to 2GB)
120GB Hard Drive
6 USB ports (3 in node; 3 in nodeboard)
Firewire ports
Broadband-ready with Built-In Ethernet and 802.11 Wireless
Integrated Microphone
Customizable skins
Sweepstakes LED for contests & promotions
Oh, great. So not only do I get spam, I get my computer blinking at me in the middle of the night to let me know that I have spam.
Could have other uses... (Score:3, Funny)
Uh, Oh! Buddys Buddy in trouble! Let's Roll!
Re:Specs? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Specs? (Score:3, Funny)
Which of the Internets do you mean?
Re:Specs? (Score:5, Informative)
DVD Player/CD Burner Drive
1.5GHz Intel Pentium M Processor
High Performance Video [...]
512MB SDRAM Memory (expandable to 2GB)
120GB Hard Drive
6 USB ports (3 in node; 3 in nodeboard)
Firewire ports
Broadband-ready with Built-In Ethernet and 802.11 Wireless
Integrated Microphone
Re:Specs? (Score:3, Informative)
It's not extremely fast, but a 1.5 GHz Pentium M isn't that slow, either. I don't know the exact equivalent here, but I guess depending on the application and of course the overall system it should be as fast as a P4 2 GHz or even 2.5 GHz. And of course, the Pentium M has a very low power usage resulting in easy and quiet cooling. Not at all a bad choice for a nice desktop computer.
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
Wait... (Score:3, Funny)
Little Red Wagon. (Score:5, Funny)
Kind of like the dad who goes out to the workshop and whips something up, instead of going to the toy store.
Re:Little Red Wagon. (Score:5, Funny)
On the other hand, his son probably stopped asking for anything once the homemade 'iMac' showed up in the living room.
comes with an "ipod" (Score:3, Interesting)
Check out the "demo" video on the site - at the end the girl pops both devices into her pockets, like some sort of gun slinger... ooooooh cool (for a 6 year old).
Re:comes with an "ipod" (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Little Red Wagon. (Score:2)
these are the folks who created the iOpener (Score:5, Informative)
That's exactly what I first thought when I read that line.
Just to clarify for everyone, Kent Savage is the same guy behind the Netpliance iOpener [com.com]. He's one of those dot-com bubble masters who doesn't really 'get-it' but can spins some concept up that looks great on paper and board rooms. Other people who also don't 'get-it' in these meetings sucker into his pitches and invest in stupid ideas like this without recognizing the fatal flaws.
The fatal flaw with the Hip-E??? They're trying to out-mac Apple. That's like trying to out-weird Michael Jackson. No slight against Apple in this comparison. They've done a tremendous job building brand awareness, applying inspired industrial design, and conceptualizing cool products. While the Apple store is located in a shopping mall here in Austin, the Hip-e folks have one of those ridiculous kiosks in the mall like those ones selling t-shirts with your picture ironed-on that says "worlds's greatest grandpa."
I read the Yahoo article linked to above and I think it's poor journalism for the writer to have not mentioned that Digital Lifestyles is the new name of Netpliance.
Here's a little blurb about them on Engadget [engadget.com].
Re:these are the folks who created the iOpener (Score:3, Informative)
Inspired by the iMac? (Score:2)
They are the first ones that made one people buy (Score:5, Insightful)
So the "Hip-E" is indeed a copy of the iMac, in that you are assuming they are trying to copy a device that actually sells vs. one whose sales start out in the toilet with one hand on the handle.
marching band (Score:3, Funny)
WTF?
I missed out
Perfect for me! (Score:5, Funny)
Any teenager who doesn't have one of these is a total square, if you ask me.
Right on, Daddy-o! (Score:4, Funny)
I can hardly wait for the Hip-E Univeral Music Store - HUMS.
target (Score:3, Interesting)
Must....resist... (Score:5, Funny)
It's spelled "Hype" actually...
ripoff (Score:5, Insightful)
i can make a MUCH better computer for that price.
Yeah: an iMac (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:ripoff (Score:5, Insightful)
Actually, yes... (Score:5, Insightful)
You can run your PC software using Virtual PC - except for games, that's why you have consoles...
Re:ripoff (Score:2)
Yes. Virtual PC 7 ws just released from Microsoft.
Re:ripoff (Score:2)
Re:ripoff (Score:2)
Re:ripoff (Score:5, Funny)
i can make a MUCH better computer for that price.
Sure, but it won't have anywhere near as big a profit margin!
I get it now (Score:4, Funny)
Re:ripoff (Score:2, Funny)
Ah, but can you make it look X-TREME and/or TOTALLY HIP? [xmission.com]
Re:Hip-e missed the point? (Score:5, Insightful)
Perhaps this is the point entirely. It's possible that they looked at the Mac and thought, "hey, these guys are selling stuff based on nothing more than cool factor, so let's design something that looks hip and cash in on the market."
If indeed that's what they were thinking--and judging from the price v. specs I'd say that was the case--they missed the whole point of the Mac, which is more than fancy hardware. It's also about all the rest of things that Mac users already know about, such as great hardware plug-and-play reliability, solid OS and software that makes the machine instantly useful even to newbies.
His kid lost out.
Re:Hip-e missed the point? (Score:3, Interesting)
Too bad they were too stupid to know about all the other POSs that came out and attempted to cash in on a) the iMac's success (hey! we'll make it cute!) or b) other themed crap. Rmember Mattel's barbie/hotwheels PCs? Or that little grey lump of shit Dell made a couple years
Ripoff indeed (Score:2)
No, you ain't even paying for that, because this thing looks HORRIBLE compared to iMac.
Re:Ripoff indeed (Score:3, Funny)
Penny wise... (Score:5, Insightful)
I've met other Windows users that were equal in thier utterly pathetic traction to the Windows platform.
Re:Penny wise... (Score:2)
Plus, don't forget the poor kid who had to wait forever while daddy patiently built his homemade iMac-lookalike, after work, in his workshop, with recycled bits of wood and screws ("found on the trash heap. Still perfectly good, you wouldn't believe the nice things people throw away" daddy said). Now is that cruel to the kid or what...
And the coup-de-gras (Score:2)
Oh, the shame.
Re:Penny wise... (Score:2)
not to mention, a PC doubles as a pretty efficient space heater.
Re:Penny wise... (Score:2)
No lie there! When I turn on my Athlon XP 3000+ system, this room's temperature rises 5 degrees F.
Sure, Mr. Savage (Score:2)
But in this case that is not at all true, since the "Hip-E" costs as much as the iMac G5! Not to mention the adoption of just about every standard (USB, Firewire) is actually done well ahead of the PC by Macs, I'm not sure what you are thinking of as being done "years ahead" by the PC. Unless you mean t
Re:Sure, Mr. Savage (Score:2)
No it doesn't:
1699$
it costs conciderably more then the imac.
Ick Ick Ick! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Ick Ick Ick! (Score:2)
Talk about a pissed teenager (Score:5, Insightful)
Just imagine you'd asked your dad for an imac and instead of saying yes or no he's actually going to build something similar running windows?
Jeez, it's like wanting to have this really cool sneakers and your mom coming home with these crappy imitations that, at least to her, look just as cool and are so much cheaper. Bah.
Yes, only... (Score:3, Funny)
"Here son, you'll love the new Nikee Aerial Jordanians! Look, they even have little mermaids on the heels. And only$200 a shoe! They must be good."
"You start high-school tomorrow, I just know they'll be perfect for your first day there".
Re:Yes, only... (Score:3, Insightful)
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Gip-e (Score:2, Funny)
Been seeing these for years (Score:3, Interesting)
How much does an iMac cost? (Score:5, Insightful)
Once again, marketing drones fail to understand that 17 year olds are quite as stipud as you think they are, and when 40 year olds try to design for 17 year olds they often get it wrong.
Re:How much does an iMac cost? (Score:2)
Re:How much does an iMac cost? (Score:3, Insightful)
Sure, but you're not really selling to 17 year olds, you're selling to 40-something year olds with 17 year old kids.
Re:How much does an iMac cost? (Score:2)
Internet Hotkeys (Score:3, Funny)
With the wireless keyboard and Internet hot keys, you can go to your favorite places on the Web from anywhere in your room.
Whoa! Internet hotkeys! Sign me up!
Are there any better pictures? This thing looks fairly rickety and cumbersome to set up or move around. It's not exactly elegant looking.
But wait! (Score:5, Funny)
Buy your hip-e now and you get to join their hip-e squad! [hip-e.com] as a squad leader!! If your friends join your hip-e squad and buy a hip-e of their own, you get $10!!!!
Of course, all of the money goes into a convenient MasterCard that you get from hip-e, just in time to teach those teens the value of living your life with a credit card bill!!
Become a squad leader! All your base are belong to hip-e squad leaders!
Re:Hip-e piramid? (Score:3, Insightful)
looke like (Score:2)
thank you Slashdot, I'll be here all week!
Don't forget to tip your sysadmins.
Keep reading, it gerts worse.... (Score:4, Informative)
What's worse than a woefully underpowered and overpriced PC bent on granting you a "lifestyle"? Getting your friends on board with you for all the real-life fun and excitement that comes with a MULTI-LEVEL VIRAL MARKETING PYRAMID SCHEME [hip-e.com]!
Ok, that might be a little harsh, but cash rewards for talking your friends into joining your 'squad'? Stupid -- especially when it's only ten lousy bucks on a system that's worth about $800 and sells for $1700.
Just too hilarious (Score:2)
I can imagine the conversaions in school:
Kid: "Hey Chuck, want to join my Hip-E squad?"
Chuck "Time for another swirly I do believe"
*Flsussshhhhh*
Kid: "That's the fifth time this week! Hey Biff, want to join my Hip-E squad?""
Harsh, insensitive ... mean! (Score:2)
You're just hard.
This is for ... our ... children. How can we send them to school knowing that the other kids all have everything they want because they have kind, successful parents when we give them NOTHING?
There's no way to call that anything but neglect.
What's next, no car on their 16th birthday? Or worse, a used car? *shudder*.
Re:Keep reading, it gerts worse.... (Score:2, Funny)
Why not a laptop... (Score:2)
Should have called it the... (Score:2, Funny)
They should have called that thing the FUGL-E because it is fuckin' ugly!
They are marketing to teens... (Score:5, Informative)
Look at how the thing is built. Spec wise it's a solid product, but the way they have made it makes it look as if it was targeted towards 10 year olds and tweens.
If you are a self respecting 16 year old and if you had the option, would you get one of these or an iMac? Part of the whole point of selling high tech toys to teens is that teens who own them want to feel older, more pro, more.. well script kiddie 1337.
You make a product that takes that away and instead says to them "You will be looked upon as a kid who only does innocent things" and expect it to sell?
Re:They are marketing to teens... (Score:2)
I DO like the concept of a wireless 16:9 wallmountable display with integrated speakers and remote keyboard, though. I'd prefer it more open (perhaps runnung Linux on it wouldn't be too hard to do), cheaper (see above), and not as "kiddie-styled". Of course, there are other devices that fit that niche (and cost the same or more).
Re:They are marketing to teens... (Score:3, Interesting)
Excellent observation. That might be kinda the whole point. They might be marketing it to tweens on the premise that the 10-12 year olds "think" it's what the older, cooler kids are using. On some level, little kids look up to teens because while teens command a similar kind of respect as adults do, their way of wielding authority is completely different. This makes them cool.
I have seen this kind of mar
My head is full of silly analogies (Score:4, Funny)
Seriously, what does this computer do, transform into a bug or something? Why does it look like that? It looks like it should be hanging down into the crib of a deranged infant. Or something.
"It's everything you want in a computer..." Huh. Yeah.
Re:My head is full of silly analogies (Score:2)
It's like getting underwear for Christmas.
wow (Score:2, Funny)
2 things:
1) I hope it's successfull
2) when it fails, I can't wait to get one surplus!
This is a laptop in drag. (Score:4, Insightful)
Very odd.
fugly (Score:2, Troll)
Price breakdown (Score:3)
1.5 gHz Pentium M
17 inch LCD at 1400x900
DVD reader/CD writer
Mobility Radeon 9700 with 64 MB
120 gig PATA drive 7200 RPM
512 MB RAM
802.11g Wireless
TV Module and DVR software
Wireless Keyboard
Wireless Mouse
8-in-1 media card reader
Built in Spyware, err, "Sweepstakes LED"
Windows XP (no comment on Home or Pro)
MS Office Student edition
AIM
1 year warranty
$1699
iMac:
1.6 gHz G5
17 inch LCD at 1440x900
Combo drive (DVD reader/CD writer)
GeForce FX 5200 with 64 MB
160 gig SATA drive 7200 RPM (subtract $100 for an 80 gig)
512 MB RAM
Airport Extreme (802.11g wireless)
Bluetooth Keyboard
Bluetooth Mouse
Bluetooth module (comes with the keyboard and mouse when ordered with the iMac)
Mac OS X Panther
iLife 04 (iTunes, iDVD, iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand)
Appleworks 6
WorldBook Encyclopedia
Quicken 2004
Nanosaur 2 and Marble Blast games
1 year warranty
$1652
A LaCie 8-in-1 reader is $30 from Apple.com
An Elgato Eye TV 200 Firewire TV tuner and DVR is $330.
So feature wise on the hardware, the hip-e comes out ahead in price.
Performance I think would go to the iMac though, and the extra software it has is nice.
Testimonials... (Score:5, Funny)
Ben, 16
(Ben obviously hasn't gotten laid yet).
"hip-e is the fastest, most customizable computer on the market.It's perfect for me because I can make it fit my style."
Sean, 16
(Sean obviously hasn't checked out the specs of his perfect machine.)
It's a laptop (Score:2)
Not even for teenagers (Score:4, Insightful)
Soon to be Junk-E (Score:2)
Two Comments (Score:3, Funny)
Second: Am I the only one who read the article as
Because "crater" is exactly what it's going to do in the market at this price. For $1700, you could buy a 1.8-GHz iMac -- unquestionably faster, even without considering the benefits of the G5 CPU -- and have $200 in change left over to spend on goodies.
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not only is it a PC, it's a MLM, too (Score:5, Informative)
For only $1700, you can get in on the ground floor, and get $10 every time your friends buy one. Plus you get to be called a "squad leader!"
More like (Score:2)
10 year old: "no thank you" (Score:3, Funny)
If I was 17 (sigh...) I would certainly not want be caught dead with this thing in my room.
I showed this to my 2 grandkids: ages 9&10 (and yes those are their real names...)
"You aren't going to get us that for Christmas are you?" they said.
Me: "why not"
Them: (eyes roll as they leave the room)
10:"it is so Gay!"
9:"Duh!"
10: "Don't agree with me, I'm gonna kick your ass!"
9: "no I'm gonna kick YOURS!"
(much fakey Kung Fu ensues...)
Well, I guess they aren't really the target audience anyways., sorry, Off-topic
$1700? ? (Score:2)
So, what am I paying the extra $700 for?
Obviously the "cool" factor. Except, what is cool about buying an overpriced PC with cheeseball plastic crap on it?
Sony VAIO (Score:2)
Low specs? (Score:2)
Sure, I can copy a Rembrant... You say that you want it to look like a Mona Lisa? I can do that too.
Cheers
Adolfo
Word of advice (Score:3, Funny)
But actual Hippies might like it. (Score:3, Funny)
Awesome, Doodz!!!! (Score:2)
Fitting Name (Score:2, Funny)
This news is a week to late! (Score:5, Funny)
I just spent $1,400.00 on a 1.6 GHz G5 iMac with 512Mb RAM and bluetooth keyboard and mouse running a robust BSD-based Unix operating system for my son when I could have spent $1700 on a 1.5 GHz WinTel Box?!?
Think of all the "Life Lessons" my son will miss out on with his Mac. He won't be exposed to all those viruses, and spy-ware programs - how will he ever learn to properly secure his computer system in the "real World"?
He won't have the experience of paying annual subscription fees to Virus vendors to keep his virus software up to date. He won't be hit with pornographic pop-ups left and right, so how will he be prepared when he sits down at a friends computer or a computer at work and surfs on their Windows Box?
He won't have the experience of re-installing his OS every time he needs to really clean the spy-ware and mal-ware off his box.
He won't know how to search for and install drivers for all his peripherals. Not to mention knowing how to go through the troubleshooting process of determining which software package just overwrote that all-important .dll or how to edit a registry.
He'll might learn the bash shell and vi and ssh and scp and how to tweak apache config file to do what he wants instead of learning DOS commands and how to use TweakUI.
His computer will never be able to be used on a "Windows" network or on the internet because "Macs aren't networkable" (according to the "geek" at our local computer store)
If only I'd have known about this Hip-e sooner. Well, maybe one of his friends will have pity on him and let him use theirs when he visits - anyone want a G5 iMac cheap?
Pyramid Scheme. Amway for tweens!!! (Score:3, Informative)
From their website:
1) You tell a friend.
2) Friend buys a hip-e with your squad leader number.
3) Friend's hip-e is delivered.
4) Friend enjoys hip-e for 30-days.
5) YOU GET PAID!
From the company's perspective:
1) sell a crappy overpriced PC (It won't run high end games)
2) Exploit the devastating power of tween peer pressure, desire of belonging, and naivete to sell the computer to their friends
3) Profit!
Not only inmoral, but also barelly legal
Cheers, Adolfo
Not even close to iMac - this is Alienware Lite (Score:3, Funny)
The market's flooded with people building "hip" PCs in their garages. I wish this guy luck, but I don't expect they'll be around in a year without a MAJOR response or some good ol' 90s-style VC.
Re:Fugly (Score:2)
Re:A *Windows* computer for *TEENAGERS*?!! (Score:2)
Re:Uhm (Score:2)
If your future wife requires it, she's a materialistic bitch who'll never be happy. Run for your life now.
If your wife doesn't require it, than what's in it for you? As someone who's been married for two decades, I'll let you in on a clue. Two weeks after your wedding you NEVER think about it. You NEVER look at the pictures. You NEVER watch the videos.
Of course you'll say it's none of my busine
Re:LOL A PC can nevar evar be an iMac LOL!!! (Score:2)