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Hip-e All-In-One PC 413

stallard writes "Yahoo! News reports this story: 'In November, Digital Lifestyles Group Inc. plans to ship the hip-e, a new Windows-based PC inspired by the iMac, specifically designed to cater to teenagers. It was Chairman and CEO Kent Savage's own experience after his son asked him for an iMac that led to the new all-in-one system's creation.'"
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Hip-e All-In-One PC

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  • Specs? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mr.henry ( 618818 ) * on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:19PM (#10545390) Journal
    Check out the specs [hip-e.com] for this computer:


    Latest Intel processor: high performance, low power consumption, quiet, Intel Pentium-M System


    Plenty of memory capacity - up to 2GB

    The configuration page [hip-e.com] only lets you add accessories and change the "skins" for the computer.

    Vague specs and zero customability! hip-e, Fuck Yeah!

  • ripoff (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Coneasfast ( 690509 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:21PM (#10545406)
    take a look at the specs [hip-e.com]. at $1699, this is a ripoff. you're paying for eye candy basically.

    i can make a MUCH better computer for that price.
  • Penny wise... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) * on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:21PM (#10545408)
    Well, it sure was a lot cheaper to design and build the whole Hip-E than to just buy the kid an iMac!!

    I've met other Windows users that were equal in thier utterly pathetic traction to the Windows platform.
  • $1699? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:22PM (#10545414)
    You know, for the price, why not just buy an iMac G5?
  • Ick Ick Ick! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by rueger ( 210566 ) * on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:23PM (#10545426) Homepage
    I can't put my finger on it, but the design if this thing just makes me squirm. Why not be intelligent and just rip-off Apple instead of revisiting the mistakes of the Barbie and Hot Wheels PCs [tinyurl.com]?
  • Re:Specs? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by FlipmodePlaya ( 719010 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:23PM (#10545428) Journal
    I suppose it was necessary, but nice that they used a Pentium M to build it though, eh? Many a /.er has complained that desktops with low power usage would lighten everyone's energy load.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:24PM (#10545434)
    Now here's a teenager that is really, really pissed at his dad.

    Just imagine you'd asked your dad for an imac and instead of saying yes or no he's actually going to build something similar running windows?

    Jeez, it's like wanting to have this really cool sneakers and your mom coming home with these crappy imitations that, at least to her, look just as cool and are so much cheaper. Bah.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:25PM (#10545447)
    What a joke. People want iMacs precisely because they are NOT PCs. and the name "hip-e" what a joke. This is like a comedy sketch.
  • by rudy_wayne ( 414635 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:29PM (#10545472)
    The hip-e is supposed to sell for $1699, isn't that the same or maybe even more than an iMac? So what's the point? The CEO's son wanted an iMac, so he designs something that costs more. That's real smart.

    Once again, marketing drones fail to understand that 17 year olds are quite as stipud as you think they are, and when 40 year olds try to design for 17 year olds they often get it wrong.

  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) * on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:31PM (#10545491)
    Apple may take concepts that have been tried before (like the HD MP3 player), they just make pratical devices that actually do well in the mass market instead of flopping like a carp dropped on a highway.

    So the "Hip-E" is indeed a copy of the iMac, in that you are assuming they are trying to copy a device that actually sells vs. one whose sales start out in the toilet with one hand on the handle.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:31PM (#10545492)
    From the apple store (not including school discounts even though this thing is targeted towards students):
    17in G5 iMac
    - 512MB DDR400 SDRAM - 1 DIMM
    - 160GB Serial ATA drive
    - Bluetooth Module + Apple Wireless Keyboard & Mouse + Mac OS X - U.S. English
    - 17-inch widescreen LCD
    - 1.6GHz PowerPC G5
    - Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
    - NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra w/64MB video memory
    Subtotal $1,573.00

    Meanwhile a hip-e node:
    Unknown CPU (probably slower)
    Same RAM and Hard Drive
    Same quality if not inferior other parts
    Subtotal $1,699.00

    Bottom line: more expensive and slower!
  • Yeah: an iMac (Score:4, Insightful)

    by j0kkk3l ( 778886 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:35PM (#10545513) Homepage
    the 17" iMac with DVD-Burning Superdrive sells for $1,499.00 If you add some RAM you are at the same price, as this vaporhardware. Buy the original instead! Get a life. Get a Mac.
  • Re:ripoff (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ttldkns ( 737309 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:35PM (#10545514) Homepage
    You can buy a MUCH better Imac for that price. $1,852 if you pick the 17" 1.8ghz and upgrade the HD and RAM to match.
  • by Wireknight ( 68033 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:38PM (#10545541)
    Check out the video card, the LCD resolution, any number of other aspects of this machine. I suspect that it integrates a large number of laptop components, rather than desktop components.

    Very odd.
  • by Dr. Evil ( 3501 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:47PM (#10545588)

    Sure, but you're not really selling to 17 year olds, you're selling to 40-something year olds with 17 year old kids.

  • by numbware ( 691928 ) <justin@justinjacobs.com> on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:49PM (#10545596) Homepage
    Between me and my friends (who are between 15 and 16), we would never buy this. We'd rather have an iMac G5 for the same price, or even a normal tower PC with Linux running on it. Looks don't matter, it's how it runs. I doubt this Hip-e would perform anywhere near a Mac or PC of the same price. And I can't even see the cool factor in the Hip-e, so it's pointless.
  • Actually, yes... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) * on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:52PM (#10545617)
    The iMac has a standard mount (VESA - does Hip-E do the same?) so you can in fact hang it on the wall, and use a bluetooth keyboard and mouse from your bed. Yes the Imac also has speakers built in.

    You can run your PC software using Virtual PC - except for games, that's why you have consoles...

  • by Concerned Onlooker ( 473481 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @02:54PM (#10545627) Homepage Journal
    you're paying for eye candy basically.

    Perhaps this is the point entirely. It's possible that they looked at the Mac and thought, "hey, these guys are selling stuff based on nothing more than cool factor, so let's design something that looks hip and cash in on the market."

    If indeed that's what they were thinking--and judging from the price v. specs I'd say that was the case--they missed the whole point of the Mac, which is more than fancy hardware. It's also about all the rest of things that Mac users already know about, such as great hardware plug-and-play reliability, solid OS and software that makes the machine instantly useful even to newbies.

    His kid lost out.

  • Re:Yes, only... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Saeger ( 456549 ) <{moc.liamg} {ta} {jllerraf}> on Saturday October 16, 2004 @04:42PM (#10546252) Homepage
    "Here, son, take these functional, quality shoes made by medium-income profit-sharing workers. DON'T BE A BRANDNAME-TRENDWHORE!"


  • Re:Hip-e piramid? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by JeffTL ( 667728 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @05:08PM (#10546416)
    They're trying to capture the evangelism often seen among Mac users (and TiVo users, and customers of other brands with high loyalty), by which they suggest the product to their friends who could benefit. What the hip-e folks don't get is that except with the new TiVo reward system or whatnot, there usually isn't a kickback involved in word-of-mouth brand evangelism -- usually just a desire to help those who could benefit.
  • Re:Specs? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by iroll ( 717924 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @08:22PM (#10547473) Homepage
    Or, you could buy the real thing (say, 1.8 GHz iMac) and save $100. Higher quality and holds its value a bit better. See www.apple.com/store for details.

    /raving fanatic
  • Re:Specs? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by slaker ( 53818 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @10:26PM (#10548035)
    A 1.5GHz Pentium M compares well with a 2.4GHz P4. The confusion caused by these different frequencies is precisely the reason Intel is moving to Performance rating its chips. Both a Pentium M and a Pentium 4 are classed as "500-series" chips.
  • Re:Specs? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Erik Hollensbe ( 808 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @01:58AM (#10548752) Homepage
    You're forgetting something that a lot of people seem to do.

    The mac doesn't have many games. Kids like to play games. When I was a kid, I may not have had Doom 3, but I had X-Wing, original Doom, Warcraft (yes, there was a game before Warcraft II), etc. I also had numerous games on my BBS. These all took several hours of my day. I also had the consoles at the time, namely the SNES. I still have a childhood-attached "trapped in the 70's" love for the SNES. In my opinion, it was the last great console.

    The PC however has more games nowadays than I as a kid could ever ask for, or dream of. If that kid has more than a passing interest in what's beneath that copy of Doom 3, he will at least try linux. Maybe he'll get hooked. And that's where it all comes around.... He'll be running for that mac if he has enough cash and knows any better.

    And all of us mac users know exactly why.

    And yes, the machine sitting right next to the mac I'm typing on here is a windows machine chock full of games.

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