Taiwanese Makers Will Squeeze DVD Recorder Prices 102
GeXX points out this PC World article predicting vastly lower prices on DVD recorders, in large part because cheap, high-volume Taiwanese manufacturers will have a greater percentage of the market, currently dominated by Japanese makers.
Re:$30 isn't cheap enough? (Score:2, Informative)
show me a $30 recorder
Re:$30 isn't cheap enough? (Score:1)
(Do NOT bid. The seller made the same mistake I did; that's really just a low-end player.)
Re:$30 isn't cheap enough? (Score:2)
Two points:
1. They likely didn't fork out $2100 for a DVD player
2. Chances are they have kids. Kids are amazingly distructive!
Re:$30 isn't cheap enough? (Score:1)
PANASONIC DVD-S31 DVD RECORDER AND PLAYER
POWER CABLE
This Auction Includes
Items Listed Above ONLY.
So for $31 you get the power cable? It doesn't even say you get the player until after "Includes Items Listed Above Only".
Re:$30 isn't cheap enough? (Score:1)
PANASONIC DVD-S31 DVD
RECORDER AND PLAYER
POWER CABLE
Not really sure if it's a list, the way they've broken up the player onto 2 lines. Just as easily could be a DVD-S31 DVD, a player, and a cable as a DVD-S31 player power cable
Re:If you can't innovate (Score:2, Insightful)
I still don't understand why this made the front page on
That's good news. (Score:5, Informative)
Google translation here [google.com].
Re:That's good news. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:That's good news. (Score:1)
The article is talking about Chinese (PRC) companies, not Taiwanese (ROC) companies.
So it looks like the Germans are in luck.
Re:That's good news. (Score:2)
And german suppliers will STILL be allot cheaper then Dutch suppliers. Cheapest dvd player around here is about 69 or 89 euro. And stuff at those price is only for sale in an Aldi or Lidl. ( German supermarkets, for those of you who don't have a clue what I'm talking about ) We the Dutch elevated taxing to a religion; 19% VAT on anything electronic, copyright extor- uhm, protection taxes on blank media, outrageous amounts of regular taxes, etcetera. Thankfully, we live next to Germany so we can always buy
Re:That's good news. (Score:1)
I don't know the actual prices but here are two scenarios
-PERCENTAGE-
DISCOUNT of 50%
TAX on DVD
-still 85$ off-
or
-FIX-
DISCOUNT of 50%
TAX on DID 50$
-still 50$ off-
work you number out, you will still get a discount of something. and i don't know in germany, but people here cuts little coupons to save 30cents on candy bar. discount = good!
Great (Score:1)
So what (Score:2, Redundant)
When you get a DVD-recorder dirt-cheap, Blu-ray recorders are still expensive.
Where's the news? Pleeeeeeeeeease lemme know WHEN THE PRICE ACTUALLY DROPS. 'PREDICTION', NO THANKS.
Re:So what (Score:2)
Re:So what (Score:3, Informative)
It's only about 2x the price of a CD writer for about 9 times the storage capacity.
I wonder. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:I wonder. (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:I wonder. (Score:1)
Taiwanese companies, including BenQ and LiteOn Technology, shipped around 1 million DVD recorders--including DVD+RW drives, DVD-RW drives, and DVD-RAM drives--worth $220 million during the first half of 2004, MIC says.
Re:I wonder. (Score:2)
Re:I wonder. (Score:2)
Re:I wonder. (Score:1)
Re:I wonder. (Score:1)
Re:I wonder. (Score:1)
I know a lot of consumers who would go for that.
Re:I wonder. (Score:2)
Re:I wonder. (Score:2)
MIC says a drop in the price of key components, including DVD loaders and MPEG-2 decoder chips
BenQ pricing must be for real (Score:1)
hmmmm (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:hmmmm (Score:1)
I would much rather pay an extra $10 or $20 just to know that what I'm buying will last me more than warranty+1day, there are people who don't have an upgrade cycle longer that 6 months and want something they know will simply last.
Re:hmmmm (Score:2)
nec (or whomever) is not ever going to make a habit of selling the hardware for less than what it costs to make (unlike microsoft, they're not selling software for the DVD burner to make up the loss).
the market will dictate w
Re:hmmmm (Score:3, Interesting)
A second CDRW, a BTC, lasted eleven months before dying and I was able to get a warranty replacement that still works five years later. A third, a brand and model recommended as a best-buy by PC World magazine lasted six months. Agai
Re:Is price still an issue ? (Score:1)
The good thing is, when these appear, it pressures the 'real' manufacturers to lower their prices, which is a good thing. But in hardware, you still get what you pay for.
Re:Is price still an issue ? (Score:3, Interesting)
Hard to believe (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Hard to believe (Score:1)
Re:Hard to believe (Score:2)
Are CD burners that expensive in Canada? Assuming 1 CAD = 0.75 USD that's like $45.00. I can pickup a Liteon, Sony or a Samsung local for $30-$35usd ($40-46CAD). It's possible you mean the retail box, or your cd-r drives are taxed extra. The only reason I point this out is you quote for a DVD burner of $100CCA / $75USD is right on the mone
Re:Hard to believe (Score:2)
CD burners are not taxed extra in Canada. Media isn't taxed at time of purchase either, the levy is paid by the manufacturer and passed onto the consumer.
The grandparent post is probably going by the price of a drive at Futureshop (like Best Buy). Check out a site like nc
Interesting... (Score:5, Informative)
But it apears that they are already cheap if you know where to shop [tigerdirect.com].
Are the format wars over yet? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Are the format wars over yet? (Score:2)
Re:Are the format wars over yet? (Score:2)
Found this here [cdrinfo.com].
Re:Are the format wars over yet? (Score:2)
Yep. At this point nearly all drive support both, and even in the cases where only one is supported, it often reads to the other.
So don't worry about it, buy a drive, and then buy compatable media. This should not be a surprise, as both formats were designed with the idea of allowing DVD players to play disks they record. There never was a reason to expect that one would win, it isn't like BETA vs. VHS where the formats were physically incompatible.
The big question is... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:The big question is... (Score:2)
Semantic Key For The Clueless (Score:5, Informative)
DVD Burner - A 5.25" boxy thing you put into your computer case. Almost gratis.
DVD Recorder - A stand-alone consumer electronics device you connect to your TV-set. Includes shiny packaging and remote control. No computer needed. Costs a bundle.
Re:Semantic Key For The Clueless (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Semantic Key For The Clueless (Score:2)
Re:Semantic Key For The Clueless (Score:3, Interesting)
I do agree some tuners on the cheap cards are somewhat nasty, and the chip capturing that tuned signal sometimes isn't so hot either. Unless you reneed Linux support, I suggest using Philip's SAA series chips over BookTree's (now Connexant) 8x8 series. Connexant does make a better video capture
Re:Semantic Key For The Clueless (Score:2)
The ivtv [sourceforge.net] project has a working driver in alpha afaik.
Re:Semantic Key For The Clueless (Score:2)
Here in the USA, an 8x multiformat DVD burner is around $80-$90 if you shop online.
A DVD recorder is around $200-$300. Prices have fallen signifigantly. Look at this [target.com]. $229 for a DVD recorder. Not bad at all.
So, it looks like people in Australia are just getting ripped off. DVD recorders have been under $300 for about five months now in the US.
AUD != USD (Score:2, Informative)
"That's a good point why is it that a DVD burner costs (in Australia) $150-$200 while a DVD recorder costs ~$1200?"
Here in the USA, an 8x multiformat DVD burner is around $80-$90 if you shop online.
A DVD recorder is around $200-$300. Prices have fallen signifigantly. Look at this. $229 for a DVD recorder. Not bad at all.
So, it looks like people in Australia are just getting ripped off. DVD recorders have been under $300 for about five months now in the US.
Biogenesis was using Australian Doll
Re:Semantic Key For The Clueless (Score:1)
Re:Semantic Key For The Clueless (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:SCSI DVD-R (Score:1)
Re:SCSI DVD-R (Score:2, Insightful)
SCSI plays nicer with other processes.
Re:SCSI DVD-R (Score:2)
Does anyone make SCSI units? Or is everything ATAPI?
The Pioneer DVR-S201 DVD-r external SCSI drive. 1x recording for $4000 or so. 1x dvd-r I believe. It's the only one I am aware of.
DVD-Recorders, not DVD+/-R/RW Drives (Score:3, Informative)
not the DVD-/+ R/RW drives your computer uses..
Low Price on Yesterday's Newspaper and Stale Bread (Score:2)
It's a cycle! (Score:4, Interesting)
These days, it's actually not uncommon to be looked at strangely if you pull a 3.5" disc out of your briefcase. In a few years, a 3.5" disc will be as much of an exotic, strange relict as 5.25" discs are today. Many people these days, have never even seen or used a ZIP drive or a magnetic tape.
As DVD records become cheaper (I rememeber when they were around $1500 not too long ago and people would ask why anyone would want a DVD burner) and, perhaps more importantly, DVD media reaches price levels currently associated with CD-R media more and more low-budget computers will come equipped with DVD-burners and not CD-RW drives.
That's, at least in my humble opinion, one of the main reason CD-RW never really took off. There was just no reason to use rewriteable CDs. With relatively high-capacitiy recordable DVDs becoming widely available, CD-Rs just became so cheap there was no reason to reuse a CD-R.
In a couple of years, CD-R will only be used to burn audio CDs. Most computers can already read DVDs so there's no reason for DVD-R/DVD+R not to be used even more widely.
And the next DVD standard is already in the pipelines. Early adopters, new developments, consumer demand and, probably, the industry's demand for IP protection will eventually push the prices down enough for the new standards to replace the current DVD standard. The only thing that I think could interfere with this cycle is distributed computing along with truely distributed storage.
Re:It's a cycle! (Score:1)
Writable CD has
Re:It's a cycle! (Score:1)
Not half as strangely as when I pull my 8" floppy discs from the mid 80's...
Price of the DVD itself ? (Score:2)
DRM (Score:4, Interesting)
Is cheap good? (Score:3, Interesting)
So, I can get a DVD Recorder cheap but can I buy only one and enjoy its use till the media format nears obsolescence?
Re:Is cheap good? (Score:1)
Re:Is cheap good? (Score:2)
I wouldn't bu
But there will be newer things.... (Score:3, Insightful)
I think this is just like hard drives. When I had my PIII500, I thought the 12 gig hard drive that came with it was all the space in the world, that I would never need more. Then I found napster, and those 12 gigs seemed so small.
I for one am happy with these price falls because I am one who can not afford to buy the newest and greatest.
The only thing I hate is the mail in rebate. If this 50% price fall comes in the way of the mail in rebate, they might as well not lower the price at all.
TV-based DVD recorders (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:TV-based DVD recorders (Score:1)
As if they weren't low enough (Score:1)
DVD Copy software for Windows.... (Score:1)
So, has anyone used any of the DVD copying software from windows?? Can you make a recommendation, or anti-recommendation??
Re:DVD Copy software for Windows.... (Score:2)
Who Cares- (Score:1)
Who cares if the recorder is cheap if the dual layer blanks cost over $5 (in 100 packs).
Re:Who Cares- (Score:2)