New PowerMac G5s: Up to 2.5Ghz, Liquid Cooled

no_demons writes "Apple have just announced the new, completely dual-processor PowerMac G5 lineup. The models all sport an 8x SuperDrive, whilst new the dual-2.5GHz model also features an 'innovative liquid cooled heat sink,' available in July."

Nothing left for Modders

[puregen1us]

Already liquid cooled, and in a cool aluminium case, enough case fans for a hovercraft. What is left to do?

Bastards

[numbski]

I promised my wife I wouldn't upgrade from my 800mHz 17" iMac overclocked to 900 with dual display to a G5 until they came out with a Dual 3Ghz, and I would get the 23" HD Studio display with it.

Now I have to wait another year.

Bastards. :P

Hot stuff!

[CommanderData]

Now we know what all the extra space [slashdot.org] is for in the new G5 case design, to hold the liquid nitrogren tanks!

Water cooling...

[Chief Typist]

Did anyone else notice that the lower processor on this diagram [akamai.net] doesn't appear to be turned on?

Come on, Apple. I want purple and red water coming out of both processors!

-ch

Is that lower CPU off?

[m_chan]

I doubt that the art guys checked with the science guys before illustrating the CPU cooling design [apple.com], unless that lower CPU is either A)Off or B) Magical.

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[Geek_3.3]

Are you kidding??? No cold cathode lights? LED lit case fans?? Still in a conventional (albeit very chic) case design?? 'liquid cooling?' I spit at liquid cooling! LN2 all the way!

Lemee see a round plexiglass SPHERE case w/ enough LED's and cold cathode lights to light up a small-to-medium sized city and enough cooling power to shatter the T1000, and THEN we can talk about 'nothing left for modders' to do... ;-)

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Re:Nothing left for Modders

[Gleng]

Could always slap a Type-R sticker on the side of it.

Add a pony

[Chemisor]

I am sure there is a place for a pony in there somewhere.

awww damn it!

[mikeburke]

I just orded a Mac II like 3 days ago!!! thanks again Jobs.

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[iphayd]

Neon lights, and cutting out the Apple and putting a window in.

Yeah, neon lights make your computer go 20% faster.

Re:Not Much Here

[foidulus]

Meh, if you were a REAL GEEK you would settle for a drive-through wedding(while messing with your powerbook) and put off honeymoon activities until you got an FP on your new G5!

You forgot ONE thing

[WormholeFiend]

Frickin "LA-ZER" Beams.

No case mod, but...

[cuzality]

...my computing has always been liquid-cooled [yuengling.com].

Re:Wow!

[generic-man]

Many of the UNIX nerds I know would be much happier with this dream machine [cside.com].

Re:Not Much Here

[corporatemutantninja]

No kidding. I was counting on that "3 Ghz by summer '04" promise, and Steve blew it. I have now lost all faith in him for delivering cool technology, or for hitting release dates. "Three strikes and you're out" may be fine for drug dealers, but technology CEOs should be held to a stricter standard. I don't care if he gets a major OS release out every year, or if he invents a whole new product category every other year. I mean, a professional CEO like Bill Gates promises Longhorn and...

Oh, wait a second.

Ok, forget Bill. But look at open source guys: THOSE people know how to hit release dates. At least I think they do because it seems like every other day Slashdot is announcing availability of version 4.31.57.111 of some software package I've never heard of. Or are those really secret IP addresses for some conspiracy to which I haven't been invited?

Re:Clock speed

[nuggetman]

Or Apples to Intels

*ducks*

Re:Not Much Here

[TheCrazyFinn]

Steve promise 3.0GHz 10 months ago. He's still got 2 months to deliver a product announcement. And they wouldn't have to ship until september.

Apple always has a big announcement in late July. The 3GHz could be it. It could also be the new iMacs though (As Apple has stopped producing the current model as of this week).

Re:Liquid Cooling is, uh, cool

[nine-times]

they are still impressive machines, save for the GPU

I know, the GPU's in these things suck. The Radeon 9800XT is a toy, just because it was released more than a month ago. Why didn't Apple pack these things with some unreleased card from ATI or Nvidia that would run 5X as fast, huh?

Re:cool

[russellh]

You gotta love the press quotes on Apple's G5 page, like: "it's the fastest Mac I've ever used in my entire life". yeah, that SE/30 was a screamer, but this G5 toasts it, no contest.

Re:Is that lower CPU off?

[Prince Vegeta SSJ4]

I doubt that the art guys checked with the science guys before illustrating the CPU cooling design, unless that lower CPU is either A)Off or B) Magical.

the top cpu is wired with the + enrgy going out and the - energy coming in, the bottom cpu is wired with the - energy going out and the + energy coming in. They are in cereal.

(+)->(bottom cpu)-> (-)->(top cpu)-> (+) Therefore since the top cpu is a heater, the bottom cpu is a cooler, as it is wired in the opposite diection

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Re:Nothing left for Modders

[dasmegabyte]

Well, it's apparently pretty quiet. There's something for modders to work on -- they prefer their machines to sound like a VTOL aircraft landing on a swedish death metal band.

Re:Evolutionary, Not Revolutionary

[The Mutant]

"...I would bet that 99% of us can't name one product from the HP lineup, but can name..."

Well I certainly can - HP sells iPods! [hp.com]

Re:Wow!

[Anonymous Coward]

if only he used a realdoll [realdoll.com].

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[troc]

they prefer their machines to sound like a VTOL aircraft landing on a swedish death metal band.

Please tell me you have videos! We need more swedish-death-metal-band-being-crushed-by-VTOL-air craft stories here on slashdot.

I'll settle for Roxette being crushed by a moderately loud cat if that's the best you can find.

Troc

PS I think I may have wandered offtopic.

Re:Clock speed

[cosmo7]

That Xenon is one noble processor.

Re:Don't care about apple...

[supertsaar]

Please don't use the words
"Trickle Down"
In a post about liquid cooling...

:)

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[tbone1]

Already liquid cooled, and in a cool aluminium case, enough case fans for a hovercraft. What is left to do?

Uh, use the thing?

The New Powermac G5

[filmsmith]

Now with more Speed Holes!(TM)

fs

You forgot one thing

[Scott Richter]

Already liquid cooled, and in a cool aluminium case, enough case fans for a hovercraft. What is left to do?

Mudflaps. With the nekkid ladies on 'em.

What, am I the only redneck who owns a mac?

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[Ian Wolf]

You might as well mod your dishwasher with a plexiglass window in front, and neon lights that catch the water sprays while it's running.

*runs and grabs dremel*

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[AKnightCowboy]

I was going to suggest a spoiler, but after looking at the case I notice it already has 2. That keeps it from floating away and gives the G5 better traction for those hard core photoshop sessions.

Re:No, it is.

[geoffspear]

What happens if the expensive G5 processor fails? They should have used a 68040, because it would be cheaper to fix if it breaks.

Re:Not Much Here

[geoffspear]

Even cheaper: just suggest to your fiancee that you should have a cheap wedding you you can afford more computers, and then you get to have no wedding at all, absolutely free!

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[fitten]

That'll even make it faster! The other thing they could do is put purposefully loud and angry bee sounding fans in the case, to get the full ricer effect. And a big ass wing on the top of the case.

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[BasilBrush]

You might as well mod your dishwasher with a plexiglass window in front, and neon lights that catch the water sprays while it's running. Fuck me. A dishwasher with strobe lighting and perspex so you can catch the water droplets in freeze frame doing the washing. You've inspired me for my next project dude!

Re:Nothing left for Modders but ASS?

[f64]

althought impressive with the blue light thingy, i'm more interested in how you are going to incorporate the ass variable into a mac.

or is that a diccerent project altogether?

i'm thinking of course of this picture: http://www.buckeyemonkey.com/images/ass.jpg

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[isecore_JMK]

I had a heart-attack when I first saw this back in January or whenever...

it turned out to be fake though. The guy _didn't_ kill a Mac, he just bought an empty G5 housing and faked the article to scare the crap out of people. He later confessed to his alleged sins, and it turned out everything was a hoax.

Apparently he got a lot of hatemail :)

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[Ancient Devices King]

I'd rather not have my CPU's superconduct, thanks.

Re:Nothing left for Modders but ASS?

[Anonymous Coward]

I thought you were trying to do a goatse cx impression? Give it some time, you'll get there.

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[SilentChris]

"albeit very chic"

Cheese graters are chic? ;)

Re:You forgot one thing

[kmo]

What, am I the only redneck who owns a mac?

No, but all the other rednecks who own macs, own Mac TRUCKS [slashdot.org].

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[RevAaron]

I'd rather not have my CPU's superconduct, thanks.

Pussy. Go back to using your Amiga or something.

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[Surt]

You mean you haven't heard?

Cheese is the new small!

Re:Nothing left for Modders but ASS?

[skinfitz]

Yeah - SURE it is. How do you explain the dual G5 with the blue light in the background then?

Re:Nothing left for Modders

[Anonymous Coward]

but even the new box is slow compared to my quad FX-51 box

And your box is a tortoise compared to my eight-way 68040 box, each running at a spritely 25MHz (that's about 10x the speed of a 2.5GHz G5, 10x2.5=25.) I'm running OpenBSD which is well known for its SMP support, thanks to it not being bound by all the rules of the GPL.

So I suggest you throw that piece of crap out the window and use a real computer.

Must...resist ..urge....

[PhoenixOne]

I don't even own a Mac desktop, but that picture makes me want to lick the screen.

Re:How to understand an Apple zealot

[Anonymous Coward]

"MacOS X is everything Linux wants to be."
"Despite the fact that Linux is just code and can't WANT to be anything, I truly believe that it'd love to be a single-vendor, single-platform, sluggish half-proprietary OS with dwindling market share. Linux would love to throw away its impressively growing corporate takeup for that."

Hey, you're the ones who say information WANTS to be free. But even if your information WANTS to give you a blowjob anyone can look at the linux discussions on slashdot and read about what horrific piles of vomit-ridden unusable crap GNOME and KDE are. Linux just WANTS to have some half-usable interface beyond the commandline. And OS X has the exact same commandline.

"Apple hardware is for real computer lovers."
"It's no hassle to use a plethora of keyboard combos to make up for the patronising one-button mouse. Despite the fact that my hands have FIVE fingers, and multiple-buttons make Web browsing so much more pleasant, I prefer my computer to be treat me like a special-needs child."

You are a special-needs child if you can't figure out how to buy a multibutton mouse. All the ones that work on PC's work on macs. But then your hands have FIVE fingers, not the usual TEN, so I guess you are a crippled special-needs child, so you have an excuse. And Macs are for real computer lovers-have you ever tried to have sex with a PC? The sharp edges on the box and rough construction materials make it S&M no matter how gentle you are.

"Aqua makes me so much more productive!"
"My non-techie friends drool over the transparency and scaling effects, even though UI research has shown that they add practically nothing to getting real work done. It feels like KDE 2 on a Pentium 200, and I can't change to a light and fast WM, but those drop-shadows must make me work so quickly!"

One word: Expose. And I'm not talking about the kind of "expose" you do in front of third graders, you sicko. Plus, transparency allows me to look at even more porn at the same time, without having to buy additional monitors!

"OSX shows that Apple is committed to open source."
"OpenDarwin.org and its community of about 27 is surely not just a token gesture by Apple. Pretty much nobody uses pure Darwin, and all the crucial components of the system are closed and require me to spend money just to get major OS updates, but they're really helping the community somehow."

The freemasons used OpenDarwin to overthrow the Bulgarian government just recently. Pure Darwin is far too strong for human use, of course, it will poison you much like drinking pure alcohol.

"You get what you pay for with Apple hardware."
"My iBook was made by in Taiwan by AlphaTop and has design and build quality flaws (needing foam sheets jammed in to stop the common problem of the keyboard scratching the screen). Meanwhile thousands of Mac laptop owners are trying to sue Apple over poorly-made logic boards. But it's silvery and cost far more than an x86 laptop of better spec, so it must be much higher quality!"

iBooks aren white not silvery, you blind special needs child, and if you're talking about 12 inch powerbooks you have the cost comparison backwards. But if it's quality you're concerned with, I once beat a man to death with a 17" powerbook, and it didn't even need to be rebooted afterwards. Well the latch that holds the screen down did break, but I'd like to see you murder someone with a ThinkPad.

"...blah blah MHz myth blah..."
"Although there's truth in PPC being more elegant than x86, it's crushing that the top-of-the-range 1.5 GHz chip is slaughtered by the equivalent 3 GHz Pentium 4. However, Steve Jobs showed some vague Photoshop filter benchmarks at the last MacWorld, so being a leprotard, I'm convinced."

Yeah, and the 3GHz Pentium crushes my 286 too. Try comparing it to something new. But at least you gave us more information on your "special needs" discussed earlier. A leprotard, eh? And just in case

Now *that's* a correction!

[FredFnord]

No insults. No 'you're WRONG (because you got this little nitpicky fact wrong even though everything else was fine.)' No condescending attitude. And you even seem to know what you're talking about!

What's wrong with you? This is slashdot, for pity's sake.

-fred

Re:a computer is a machine that you usually don't

[N1KO]

A nice touch in a 12 year old girl's room. A powerbook would look cool though.