Robots That Serve Beyond The Vacuum 258
Tim Brown of Mobile Robotics writes "While everyone has been debating the abilities of new robotic vacuum cleaners and their varying price tags, Siemens has quietly announced they have developed a 'Dressman' robot that will iron your clothes! (my least favorite household chore). Rumoured to be priced at US$1700 it seems expensive for an iron. But it appears that the Roomba's best work might be that it is ushering in a new era of innovation in home products. (Note very cool picture with the article.)"
$1700 eh? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:$1700 eh? (Score:5, Insightful)
If this is a robot, then so is my dishwasher, clothes washing machine and even my blender.
TW
Re:$1700 eh? (Score:2, Funny)
Funny you should mention creases... (Score:3, Insightful)
They make a good point about the material lasting longer though.
Re:$1700 eh? (Score:3, Insightful)
It's a $1700 glorified hair dryer. Judging by the last line that says "ironing dummy can be washed in the washing machine", I'd have to guess the whole thing is a fabric on a frame. You put your shirt over the cloth on the frame, and turn it on with a rotary knob (no sensor to detect dry). It takes up to 15 minutes to do one shirt. It doesn't load itself, it doesn't take the now dried and wrinkle free shirt, and fold it. It's simply a blow dryer. Worse
Re:$1700 eh? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:$1700 eh? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:$1700 eh? (Score:5, Insightful)
I've always loved the idea of home robotics, but at $1.25 a shirt, I can get 1360 laundered at the local dry-cleaners, and get then with heavy starch applied, hung on a hanger, and put in a plastic bag.
Assuming one shirt per day, everyday -- and some days I do just wear a T-shirt -- that's more than three and half years worth of ironed shirts, with my labor limited to taking them to and from the cleaners -- and with no need to wash the shirts myself.
The idea of inflating a dummy and drying the shirt from the inside out is great "outside the box" creativity, and I give the inventor credit for it. But that method doesn't crease the sleeves properly, it doesn't iron the collar, and I'm thinking that it may result in the placket at the back of a dress shirt bulging out at precisely where you want it creased.
So it's a great idea that doesn't really substitute for ironing, and is too expensive. Much as I'd like to encourage this, it's a solution in search of a problem.
Re:$1700 eh? (Score:3, Funny)
Too much for too little. (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't recall ironing a single piece of clothing since my job interview more than four years ago and that is the only time I've used an iron in my twenty-seven years. Hell, I only even own an iron because an ex-girlfriend needed it for her clothes - and I needed it for an upcoming project which including using an applique.
Still, if you're a snazzy dresser and you wear clothing that tends to need ironing and you're a single person, I suppose this is a decent product. Especially if you have the money to burn.
It really seems that this device (which reminds me of those punching-bag exercisers I've seen on television a couple times) is geared more toward the garment pressing industry than a home-user.
Personally, the only robot I'm interested in is a sex-slave android and I don't think we'll be seeing any of those in my lifetime.
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Re:Too much for too little. (Score:2, Interesting)
That might only work if you used some sort of modified RFID tag that would transmit the details of the clothing, but it could still be cool.
Re:Too much for too little. (Score:2, Informative)
Well this comes close....
http://www.fp.co.nz/Products/Laundry/S
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Re:Too much for too little. (Score:2)
Dude, if you live on the West coast of the US, then, okay, it's a good bet that you are not going to need to iron your shirt. I live in Silicon Val
Re:Too much for too little. (Score:2, Insightful)
Which is why I said this "is geared more toward the garment pressing industry than a home-user."
Anything short of a business suit doesn't really need to be pressed and ironed. Just buy wrinkle-free clothing. And you're right about the west coast thing. I've never worn a suit in my life and I can't recall the last time I saw
Re:Too much for too little. (Score:2, Interesting)
I live in NY. I used to work as a men's suit salesman and was expected to look seriously sharp at all times. I didn't have to iron a shirt while doing so.
Indeed, I'm more inclined to iron when dressed casually in untreated soft cottons or linens that shrink and wrinkle. Plackets on flannel shirts pucker up terribly, and if you're inclined to more esoteric fashions (for the American
Re:Too much for too little. (Score:5, Interesting)
I shouldn't be giving away my plans to rule the world and make a zillion bucks, but the sex robot might not be as difficult as you think. As always, you start off with what has already been done. In this case, there's already a major growth industry in robotic milking machines.
In fact, the reason there's so much growth in the field is that cows actually prefer robotic milkers and tend to go in for an extra milking a day because it just feels right. I'm not kidding. This is precisely why there is growth despite the costs, the diary ends up with higher milk production.
So, perhaps an android is out of the question so far, but how about 1090i video on a cube of four 42 inch high resolution panels and a milk machine!
You heard it here first baby.
And as for this hot air toy, how the hell is it a robot if you have to put the shirt on it yourself?
How to get away without ever ironing (by a tailor) (Score:5, Informative)
First, open every button on the shirt and remove plastic collar stays (if any) before washing.
When you dry, cotton shirts can be dried on "hot" in most American home dryers, but I use "medium" when I go to a laundramat because their dryers are hotter.
When you take your shirts out of the dryer, if they feel bone dry to the touch, you've over-dried them. You should be drying them less. They should feel as if they have just the slightest hint of moisture left in them, which should evaporate naturally within about a minute or so. Over-dried shirts will be wrinkly. Properly-dried shirts shouldn't be wrinkly.
If your shirts are dried properly but are coming out of the dryer wrinkly, your loads of laundry are too big. Wash and dry a little less stuff in each load. The general rule is, when you put the wet clothes in the dryer, they should take up a bit less than half the space inside the dryer.
Finally, you should get to the dryer as soon as it stops (not 10 minutes later: right away!) and take out your shirts and hang them up on clothes hangers. Do not use wire hangers, use plastic hangers (such as those available cheaply at Target or Kmart) or wood hangers. Wire hangers can cause the shirt to get funny misshapen wrinkles in the shoulders, which can only be removed by re-washing.
If you do these things properly, your cotton shirts will look smooth and professional with no ironing.
Re:How to get away without ever ironing (by a tail (Score:2)
But when I try it in my new dryer, the tips of the collars come out with small "nicks" in them, as if someone has taken a razor blade and made a small incision near the point of the collar. It completely ruins the shirt. I assume that there's something sharp inside the dryer catching on them.
So now I just iron them.
Re:How to get away without ever ironing (by a tail (Score:2)
You mean I can't just do "Whites" and "not-Whites??"
Re:Consumed by work - your missing your life (Score:2, Interesting)
We've all heard the stories of women who cheated on their hard working
Way cool (Score:2)
A wonderful idea! (Score:5, Insightful)
It works for me...
Re:A better idea! (Score:2)
Because I live in a city in a desert. If I were to do that, they'd smell like dirt and automobile fumes, even more than they do from simply being within a city.
Boooring. (Score:5, Informative)
Yeah right.
Re:Boooring. (Score:4, Interesting)
A lot of us, I imagine, immediately think of devices such as the robot in "Lost in Space", or (those of us who are a bit older, or into movies) Klaatu (sp) from "The Day the Earth Stood Still". Industrial robots (such as those used to manufacture cars, or carry out extremely dangerous industrial procedures), or other devices, such as those used by the police to defuse bombs, etc are most certainly real "robots" - but what is it about those devices is it that makes them a robot?
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
Re:Boooring. (Score:2, Insightful)
Why not? A robot does not need to walk or talk. Automotive welding and industrial assembly robots are proof of this.
but what is it about those devices is it that makes them a robot?
The ability to perform a task without continuous human control. But I don't think that bomb disposal units count as robots because a human being is constantly in control of it.
LK
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
Exactly. Just like "Battlebots", they're not robots; they're just remote-control whatevers. If it doesn't have AI of some sort, it's not a robot.
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
The dictionary definitions I can find seem pretty poor in this area. Personally I'd go for what you describe being an automaton, or automatic device. Certainly they are no different in principle from the automatons of the 18th century. And the most common example in the home is the "automatic" washing machine.
I'd be looking for a robot to be something that makes decisions on it's mov
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
>Why not? A robot does not need to walk or talk.
But it has to manipulate things. This is an inflatable ironing board. An "automatic" washing machine displays more intelligence and does more useful stuff. Also, the damn thing would take up a lot of floorspace. Anyone with the money and space to use one of these wouldn't be doing their own laundry anyway, they'd have a maid or send their laundry out.
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
>It takes a wet and wrinkled shirt and makes it dry and wrinkle free. That arguably is manipulation.
It would be if it was the one who "took" the shirt, but you have to dress it, and button it up (maybe it has clips instead). It's an inside-out ironing press. Basically I could iron a shirt the old fashioned way in about the same time.
In the article, as opposed to the headline, it's called an "ironing dummy". I'd say a robot has to pe
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
Re:Boooring. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
I agree about this thing too - it's an appliance, not a robot.
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
but it brings up the question - exactly what DOES constitute a robot?
How about "a machine that autonomously interacts physically with its environment"? That's probably the closest match to the way I've seen "robot" be used in recent years (caveat: I'm living in Japan). Traditional robots--humanoid things that walk around, talk to you, and so on--obviously do this, but so do industrial robots, for example. I recently saw a news segment about a new "robot" that's designed to help disabled people get int
Re:Boooring. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
Not quite: a superball interacts autonomously and quite physically with its environment.
I wouldn't call superballs autonomous--they don't do anything without someone directly acting on them, such as by throwing them. (Or are you referring to a different object? To me, "superball" is one of those bouncy rubber balls I played with as a kid.)
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
The Wikipedia suggest this definition of a robot [wikipedia.org]:[qoute]
In practical usage, a robot is a mechanical device which performs automated tasks, either according to direct human supervision, a pre-defined program or, a set of general guidelines, using artificial intelligence techniques. These tasks either replace or enhance human work, such as in manufacturing, construction or manipulation of heavy or hazardous materials.
A robot may include a feedback-driven connection between sense and action, not under direct
History of the word... (Score:3, Interesting)
So, at least lit
Definition (Score:2)
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
Spelling right; but Klaatu was the human(oid), (Michael Rennie). Gort (Lock Martin) was the robot.
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
It seems that I'm SO old that my memory is already failing me.
At all of 27...
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
"Klaatu...Barada... Necktie?... Nectar?... Nickel?"*
* [gorenight.com]
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
Going slightly off topic, but I've always been fascinated by the efficiency of that alien language.
I mean, its 3 words (Klatuu, berata, nictu), but it conveys so much! As far as I can tell, it means:
"Quick! Klatuu has been shot! He's at the corner of which-and-which street, go get him, he needs your help! But do not, I insist, he was very adament about this: Do NOT destroy the world. Get Klatuu, don't destro
Re:Boooring. (Score:5, Funny)
A bunch of dummies inflating with enough hot air to stuff a shirt, all for all too much money.
Sounds like Congress, doesn't it?
Soko
Re:Boooring. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Boooring. (Score:5, Informative)
For a minute there I thought my back up career might in jepardym but looks like it is still safe.
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
Re:Boooring. (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Boooring. (Score:2)
Yes, but where on Earth does the bread go?
:p
Gee I wonder how many (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Gee I wonder how many (Score:2)
At least if this ironing shirt malfunctions, your shirt's the only thing that's gonna be blown (up)...
What will REALLY put robotics in the home... (Score:5, Insightful)
As well as wash, dry, and put away your dishes.
O yeah,
Mow the lawn and wash the car while its at it.
That way I can use all my spare time exercising.
Re:What will REALLY put robotics in the home... (Score:2)
Re:What will REALLY put robotics in the home... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:What will REALLY put robotics in the home... (Score:2)
For example, I currently rent a home along with three other people. We pay $120 a month for someone to clean the place once a month. That's $1440 a year. A robot priced around $30,000 (including 20 years of inflation adjusted maintenance) whose sole job is cleaning the house (and does a good enough j
Re:What will REALLY put robotics in the home... (Score:2)
I think it is perfectly reasonable to expect her to keep up the house if the man is bringing in the money. If both are working, the household work should be split evenly.
I think it would be very inconsiderate and unfair to expect the man to make a long day at work, pick up groceries, come home, cook and then wash the dishes. (While the other party is sitting on her fat ass
Re:What will REALLY put robotics in the home... (Score:2)
How naive of you.
What makes it a robot? (Score:2, Redundant)
Shirts Only? (Score:2)
Instead it is looks like some kung-fu fighting dummy and it only irons shirts - they don't mention different sizes.
I think of a lot of ways spending 1700 hours than having something that just irons shirts. How much does a decent ironing service in the States cost these days? 1 or 2 dollars a shirt?
Re:Shirts Only? (Score:2)
No thanks.... (Score:2)
how much longer.... (Score:2, Funny)
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I see a new feature... (Score:5, Funny)
Shirts pressed while you wank!
Waste of space and cash.. (Score:2, Interesting)
Ironing techniques. (Score:2)
Also, the Robotic Toaster (Score:5, Funny)
Wow, a valid use for a patent (Score:3, Interesting)
What's "Beyond the Vacuum"?? (Score:2, Insightful)
But no - it's just hardware that does housecleaning... :-(
Asimov predicted this. (Score:2)
this may come as news to some people... (Score:2, Insightful)
And for vacuuming, you could always hire someone (but, unlike a robot, a cleaner will raise eyebrows at leftover pizzas and Playboy magazines).
explanatory link (Score:3, Funny)
AutoLave (Score:2)
I just can't help myself with this one... (Score:2, Funny)
2. press start
3. watch the robot inflate like the incredible hulk
4. duck flying buttons
5. rinse and repete
Oh hell, what now? (Score:2)
Ok, I've washed the ironing dummy........ now what do I iron it with?
Cool (Score:2)
Usefulness (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Usefulness (Score:2)
Wouldn't the results be the same as steaming? (Score:3, Insightful)
Wouldn't the result be the same if one used this "robot"?
It would appear it is a combination of the weight of an iron, or press, and the heat that presses out the wrinkles, not just the heat alone.
Not worth the investment according to Test-Achats (Score:5, Informative)
The consumer magazine Test-Achats/Test-Aankoop in Belgium has reviewed this item in its current issue. You can find the full article on their web site [test-achats.be], although it is only accessible for subscribers.
In summary, here is what the article says about this "robot" that irons your clothes: the quality of the results is not that good, there are still some wrinkles left in the shirts (this is OK if you wear them under something else, but not if you want to look smart wearing only a shirt). They gave it an "average" rating for the quality, while most of the traditional irons get a "good" or "very good". One of the main selling arguments for this expensive item is that it irons your shirts for you while you can do something else during the 10 minutes that it takes to do its work. But in practice, you need 2 minutes to put the shirt on and 2 minutes to remove it once it is ready. So if you have several shirts this device lets you do something else for one hour, but only in slices of 10 minutes so this is not ideal.
So it does not beat the good old low-tech iron...
Outsource!! (Score:2, Funny)
It ain't a robot, and it ain't new (Score:2, Informative)
It should be green ... (Score:2)
Not a Robot(tm) (Score:2)
It's no more a robot than a Corby trouser press and requires extensive human intervention to actually start and complete the ironing process.
An ironing robot would be one that notices when my wash has finished and goes and gets all the ironing to be done from the machine, irons it all, and puts it in my wardrobe in my preferred order. Nothing short of that will impress me.
I've got one already.... (Score:2)
Hmm... (Score:3, Funny)
Too pricey? (Score:2)
Missing Feature (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Get A Wife (Score:5, Funny)
I think you mean "girlfriend". Let me explain...
The shirt ironing robot won't blow you. Neither will a wife. A shirt ironing robot won't cook dinner for you. Neither will a wife.
What you need is a girlfriend, you can get your shirt ironed, your meals cooked, and your penis sucked. Wives and shit ironing robots don't even come close.
Yes, I am divorced.
LK
Re:Get A Wife (Score:2)
But to replace women completely you need this machine, a vacuumcleaner (for the blowjobs ofcourse) and a fleshlight.
Re:Get A Wife (Score:2)
LK
Re:Get A Wife (Score:2)
I would tend to agree. I've never had much need for having shit ironed. In fact, I don't much want to imagine the action much less the smell.
Ironing for the really really lazy (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Ironing for the really really lazy (Score:2)
4. Get clothes out of washing machine and put in dryer.
In my day they didn't have dryers--we had to hang the clothes up on a line and wait days for them to dry. And then we still had to iron them!
Oh wait--I still don't have a dryer . . .
Re:Ironing for the really really lazy (Score:2)
Re:Ironing for the Lazy (Score:2)
Re:Great... (Score:2, Insightful)
Not a robot (Score:3, Interesting)