Sony To Launch E Ink-based eBook In April 424
Holly Gates writes "Sony will launch an ebook based on E Ink technology in Japan in late April. The screen is about as big as half a paperback book and has a spatial resolution of ~170ppi. The device includes various edictionaries and audio playback functionality. I am a hardware engineer for E Ink by the way, but I figured slashdotters might be interested." An anonymous reader notes that it is supposed to "display over 10,000 pages on a single set of batteries."
E Ink? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:E Ink? (Score:5, Informative)
While not 'EInk', here's a couple of others that will hopefully make it to our market soon They also use energy only when turning pages:
I emailed these people and was informed this Chinese Ebook [argosyusa.com] would be available on Amazon in Q2 of this year.
This Panasonic Sigmabook [sigmabook.jp] ebook was just launched in Japan and hopefully will make it here soon.
Re:E Ink? (Score:3, Informative)
E-Ink was founded in 1997 by a few MIT geeks [eink.com]. I think they had the name before they had a marketing department. This was pre e- and i- nuttiness.
I remember interviewing with E-Ink in 2000, I think with Barrett Comiskey, one of the founders, in the Toscanini's (ice cream store) at MIT. Wicked smart. Too bad I shanked on the interview!
100.000000000 pages (Score:5, Funny)
I wonder how fast you have to read then
OK, I don't know what the hell E-Ink is
Re:100.000000000 pages (Score:2, Funny)
The ink you use to make the letter E, duh!
Re:100.000000000 pages (Score:5, Informative)
Re:100.000000000 pages (Score:5, Funny)
Re:100.000000000 pages (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:100.000000000 pages (Score:3, Funny)
Re:100.000000000 pages (Score:4, Funny)
eBook reader: 400 dollars
Fold-up chair for reading outside: 30 dollars
Slashdotting your company's web server while trying to get a shameless plug: Priceless
Re:100.000000000 pages (Score:5, Informative)
Re:100.000000000 pages (Score:3, Funny)
Re:100.000000000 pages (Score:5, Funny)
"Ahh, yes, the patented etch-a-sketch technology."
I think its more like a high res magnadoodle.
Re:100.000000000 pages (Score:3, Funny)
Re:100.000000000 pages (Score:3, Funny)
Aye, aye, cap'n.
Re:10,000 pages (very poor frame rates) (Score:3, Insightful)
Its a "low power" technology only when slowly flipping through static pages. But for more active screen work, scrolling, its not going to have very good battery life -- even at 2 frames per second, its only going to get a hour and a half. Even animating the pointer will drain energy if done at too high a frame rate.
I expect that for PDA applications, this display wil be better than the current crappy generation battery-sucking m
Great! (Score:5, Funny)
Great! Now I don't have to recharge my batteries in the middle of War and Peace!
Re:Great! (Score:3, Funny)
Guh, I can't absorb information this way (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Guh, I can't absorb information this way (Score:5, Informative)
The whole point is that this is closer to a printer that rearranges its "toner" on the page.
--
Evan
Re:Guh, I can't absorb information this way (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Guh, I can't absorb information this way (Score:2)
Battery life? (Score:2, Redundant)
Hell, I can display trillions of pages on my 486 laptop.... unfortunately they're only on the screen for a microsecond each...
Re:Battery life? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Battery life? (Score:5, Funny)
Assuming what you call "trillions" means 1 trillion.
That's 1 000 000 000 000 pages.
One microsecond/page means 1 000 000 000 000 / 1 000 000 total seconds for the whole thing.
That's 1 000 000 seconds or 277.8 hours or 11 days and a half.
If your 486 laptop can stay on batteries for 11 days and half then I would like to know what kind of battery you use
Ok, that was a nerdie post, you can mod me down now
Neat device, but the price had better be good.... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Either the publishers won't give it much support, or it'll be so burdened by DRI software that consumers simply won't care about it. If they have to pay each time they read a book...
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:3, Funny)
maybe, but the DRM is a deal-breaker.... (Score:2)
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:3, Informative)
- I can hold it in one hand
- I can read it in a dark room
which means that when the little one refused to sleep at two in the morning, I can carry her around my (dark) house and read a book. Can't do THAT with any kind of regular book -- they don't have lights, and they can't be read in one hand.
OTOH
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:4, Informative)
My daughter has one - one of her Christmas presents last year. $15 at Costco. Runs for months on a couple of AAA batteries, and she uses it for several hours every night. Nice bright white light from a couple of tiny LEDs.
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:3, Insightful)
That is a big selling point for me. Not so much the ability to take my entire book collection wherever I go, but just being able to keep my enitre book collection in a small place. About 2 weeks ago I bought 2 big plastic tubs and filled them up with books so I could store them in my attic because they were taking up too much space.
The biggest question in my mind, is just how much s
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Are you kidding? If it is as easy to read as newspaper, than imagine the change for students, especially college age. Instead of constantly carrying heavy textbooks everywhere, you just have one appliance that holds all your information.
Imagine the cost savings in buying textbooks if there is no more physical costs involved. If there is something like a 60% discount for e-books, you could pay for the thing in one semest
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:3, Insightful)
I am perhaps a Troll or someone of little faith, but i think they will sell them the same price as the dead tree ones and take the magin profit for them. As an excuse, you know, everybody
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:3, Interesting)
This wouldn't be done in a traditional textbook for two reasons 1) the biggest reason IMO who wants a paperback book sized textbook that while small in width and height is 2000 pages long 3-4" thick (unless its machinery's handbook, but thats a reference anyway
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:3, Interesting)
There are lots of
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:4, Funny)
Wow. Most people can't go more than a couple of seconds of no muscle movement without being dead. What is your secret? You must teach me!
Re:Neat device, but the price had better be good.. (Score:3, Interesting)
10,000 Pages (Score:2)
BTW, The site is /.ed badly. Can't fidn the google cache either.
Re:10,000 Pages (Score:2, Informative)
PRESS RELEASE
FIRST-GENERATION ELECTRONIC PAPER DISPLAY FROM PHILIPS, SONY AND E INK TO BE USED IN NEW ELECTRONIC READING DEVICE
[Picture]
Sony LIBRIe e-Book Reader utilizing Philips Electronic Paper Display featuring E Ink's electronic ink technology
Tokyo, Japan , Amsterdam, The Netherlands, Cambridge, MA, USA, March 24, 2004 - Royal Philips Electronics (NYSE: PHG, AEX: PHI), Sony Corporation(NYSE: SNE) and E Ink Corporation announced today the world's first consumer application of an electr
light (Score:5, Interesting)
by far, thats my biggest complaint with handhelds (palms, etc). The screens are so hard to read in the daylight. Infact, the black and white palms seem easier to read in the day light than the color screens.
Also, phillips rollable display [philips.com] Amazing!
Re:light (Score:3, Insightful)
I have a palm OS-based color screen phone and I can't use the darned thing in daylight because the screen isn't visible. The non-color screen palm devices are much more readable in direct sunlight.
Bring on something readable.
And how long before we have the pda/camera/phone/e-book combo device?
Can it display PDF's? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Can it display PDF's? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Can it display PDF's? (Score:3, Informative)
Anonymous to avoid karma whoring - full text (Score:2, Informative)
Awesome (Score:3, Insightful)
I hope I'm not being hasty in saying so long to luminescent displays. It certainly will be strange reading from a moving, reflective display, but I think it'll be much easier on the eyes, and well excepted. Kudos to Sony, and I hope other OEMs adopt quickly.
Personal vendeta? (Score:5, Funny)
And the sysadmin just blocked all P2P ports, so I'll get him back this way.
"See how you like a good ole slashdotting, bastard!!"
I'm pretty excited about this (Score:2)
I've tried reading off a Palm or laptop and it just doesn't work. A nice high contrast device would be perfect.
The bottom line is this device needs to be cheap.
I've been waiting for something like this. (Score:3, Insightful)
Not too useful, but search changes everything.. (Score:2, Insightful)
DRM Enabled? (Score:5, Insightful)
All the DRM-enabled e-book devices (Rocket) and formats (Palm reader) introduced so far have failed. No one wants to buy an e-book that is tied to a specific bit of hardware, or one who's access disappears if you lose your Passport account (MS Reader). Some devices won't even *permit* unencrypted data.
I hope that the designers realise that. Actually, the designers probably do, but the marketing guys or the managers will insist on it.
"...this novel e-Book reader offers users an enjoyable experience and the freedom to access material at their convenience."
My convienence does not include intrusive DRM, thank you.
Not that I will get my hopes up...
Amen (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't mind the device having DRM. Like you, I too have a problem if that's all it allows. IMO if it allows anyone to create their own "books" then it should do well. Being able to send a book directly to another one would be very useful and cool.
They need to take a lesson from the iPod: DRM and non DRM audio files allowed. Although I suspect Sony has already figured the profit on the exclusive sale of books for this device.
LIBRI? Worst name EVER! (Score:2, Insightful)
As a side note - why in the world are e-books so damn expensive? I'm sorry, but if I can get a paperback for 10 bucks, I'm not going to shell out $25 for an e-book. Kazaa, here I come!
Big Picture (Score:3, Informative)
Amazing (Score:2)
Size Problem (Score:2)
Great tech, though.
several points - probably already mentioned but... (Score:2, Insightful)
it's gotta NOT have a closed proprietory file format
it should be able to (or be upgradable to) display the standard formats out there - basic text files, html based files with gif/jpg/png, acrobat pdf files that support search...
have or allow viewers for regular MS file formats (ppt, word, excel, visio, etc)
E-ink should be nice and easy to read and nothing like looking at a crt or lcd screen. Would be nice to have higher dpi however it is being called "first genera
These are awesome (Score:2)
1. Save up cash ...
2. Wait for E Ink IPO
3. Profit!
I am not overwhelmed (Score:2)
Re:I am not overwhelmed (Score:2)
Not for any amount of money on earth. (Score:3, Insightful)
It's a BAD idea. My books are my books and the information that's printed in them will always be there no matter what, as long as I take proper care of them.
No matter what happens in the world, say some political wind blows and they decide that certain things are politicaly incorrect, with a few clicks of a mouse e-books planet wide will be "revised" to reflect the new "acceptable and correct" line of thought.
History will be rewritten to suit those that have the power and need to rewrite history.
I have many sets of encylopedias from the 20's through the 80's and I can see with my own eyes how history is being rewritten. LOTS of "facts" are revised on a regular basis. If you think it's not, you're living in a dream world...
Re:Not for any amount of money on earth. (Score:3, Insightful)
No doubt. But isn't it at least possible that some of these revisions could result from, you know, people discovering new stuff? It's not as if the encyclopaedias in 1920 were the Platonic ideals of omniscient, infallible historical truth.
Being a bit hasty in reaching for the tinfoil hat there, I'd say.
Save copies of the data, then. (Score:4, Insightful)
Burn them to CD-ROM if you want.
And if you think paper doesn't get revised, go to a bookstore and buy a new edition of a book you read long ago. You'd be surprised how often things get revised. It's not just that the cover art gets revised to show the actors from the current movie version instead of the original cover art, or the blurbs on the back get revised for more current advertising value, or the books get subtitled (e.g. "Farenheit 451 - The Temperature at which Books Burn".) They don't get revised as fast as Whitehouse.gov speech transcripts, but they do get revised.
Re:Not for any amount of money on earth. (Score:3, Insightful)
Library of Congress (Score:3, Insightful)
Wait (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm failing to see how your reasoning fits your conclusion as both mediums are equally subceptible to revisions.
The advantage of electronic books is that a simple program can be written to compare previous versions to new versions to see what exactly has been changed in seconds.
Try that with a hard copy of an encyclopedia.
You're also making the faulty assumption that all cha
checksums and error correction code (Score:3, Insightful)
You can be reasonably certain that you made a completely perfect copy if everything checks out.
Man. There's a business model. (Score:3, Funny)
A book that needs batteries.
Where's my broker?
LoCs? (Score:2)
But how many Libraries of Congress is that?
Price, more pictures (Score:5, Informative)
All three of the Impress Watch articles say it will cost around 40,000 yen - approximately $400 USD. And this is just for the reader, subscribing to the e-book service costs $5-10/month. They do, however, have the option of just purchasing single books for 350 yen, about $3.25.
PC Watch article [impress.co.jp]
K-Tai Watch article [impress.co.jp]
Internet Watch article [impress.co.jp]
There are also MANY more pictures of the device available at the above URLs. There's even some showing a manga on the screen of the thing, for those of you interested in that sort of thing.
I do have a few pictures posted in my article [techjapan.com] as well, but it's really nothing you couldn't have found yourself.
Somebody who's used one; How long to flip page? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm curious (and I'm sure a lot of people on slashdot are): how long does it take the book to refresh the screen when you turn the page?
This seems important for two reasons: if it's really slow, like to the point of being a visible lag time, it would be sort of annoying to read a book on it. I used to read ebooks on my PDA, and there were lots of annoying things about that (tft screens suck in bright lig
bundle some nice books (Score:2, Interesting)
my biggest problem with e-book was that there was no way to try the device without getting l
eInk design (Score:3, Interesting)
Childrens' spines (Score:5, Interesting)
That is, the enormous weight of all their books is too much for their tiny frames. With more and more other crap being shoved in there, kids can barely take it. There was once a time that kids could leave their textbooks either at home or school. The kid could take one book home for the homework that night.
Now, every class assigns twenty minutes of homework every day, even for elementary school kids, and most of the teaching is done directly out of textbooks. That means having all the books in both places. Insanity.
This sort of thing could change all that. Instead of four thick textbooks, the kid would have a single nice little device... textbook manufacturers won't want to make their books available electronically, but at least the assignments can be sent home this way. All those photocopied sheets and such.
Many copyright barriers, but luckily, one of the few things that can break through even the most entrenched laws is a serious threat to the health of children.
Just what kids need, LESS exercise (Score:3, Funny)
Great. Obese American kids won't have to carry so much. Maybe we can set a world record for the fattest kid(but we probably already have it).
Hey, we also won't have to burden our "yank-tank" SUVs so much with all the weight of the extra books.
God bless you, Sony!
Re:Childrens' spines (Score:5, Informative)
Who would fardles bear
To grunt and sweat under a weary life --
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovered country, from whose bourn
No traveler returns, puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have,
Than fly to others that we know not of.
A fardle is a bundle carried on one's back...a backpack.
And they all said that making engineers take liberal arts classes was a waste of time!
-h-
Any DRM used can be easily broken (Score:3, Funny)
2. Place face down in scanner.
3. Scan
4. OCR
5. Repeat as needed.
With that said I hope they don't expend a lot of effort on DRM. BTW, I think I just violated the DMCA.
Before you buy any eBook device... (Score:5, Insightful)
I bought a Nuvomedia Rocket eBook in the year 2000. This is essentially the same device (and is content-compatible with) the Gemstar REB1100. I have bought approximately $400 worth of content for it.
All of its technical and usability characteristics are quite good. I can read for pleasure on it for extended periods of time and get lost in an immersive reading experience.
Gemstar has folded their eBook operation and pulled the plug on their servers. The DRM-protected content is keyed to a hardware serial number. When the device finally fails (and its battery life is now down to about half what it was originally), I believe that to all intents and purposes I will lose all access to that paid content.
Meanwhile, I have 25-year-old paperbacks that continue to be perfectly accessible.
What is needed to make eBooks popular is not any technology breakthroughs, but something that will hit greedy publishers over the head with a clue-by-four. When strangers see me reading on this thing it is often a conversation-starter. The conversation usually ends when they ask me what eBooks cost. I say "About the same as a hardbound for books that are only out in hardbound, and about the same as a paperback for books that in paper," they stare at me in disbelieve and the conservation ends right there.
And that doesn't even speak to the issue that I can't lend these books to my wife or my son, and couldn't even if they owned compatible eBook readers.
Re:Before you buy any eBook device... (Score:5, Informative)
This is precisely why I am not interested in eBook readers. Not only do you end up with a single purpose device, but you probably get stuck with DRM and Windows-only software as well.
Personally, I have switched almost 100% to reading on my Visor Handspring (the B&W Clie my last job provided was better, but the Visor is good enough). I only purchase material that is available in open formats (fictionwise.com and baen.com are good sources). Throw in stuff from Project Gutenberg and I have read nearly 100 ebooks to date (and for less than $100 too).
The benefits of using a PDA are various. I can read in the dark, I always have my reading material with me, and I can read "discreetly." More importantly, 10 years from now I will still have access to all of these books in electronic format. I like reading on my Visor so much that I won't read a new author unless I can get his or her work in an open ebook format first.
Butterfly Design? (Score:3, Interesting)
That said, the main fault I see with this (aside from aforementioned political ramifications of the maleability of electronic content) is that I'm used to reading books in a "butterfly" style, that is across two pages of an open book.
If someone were to make one of these with two reading surfaces and a simple "next page" button on the lower right corner (and a previous page on the lower left) and bind it like a book, I would be all over it.
Can't thumb through an eBook (Score:3, Interesting)
Take catalogs for example. Sure, you could look up what you want online. I do that almost all the time, and I'd be one of the first to buy a Web-connected e-ink catalog. But when you just want to browse, I can't stand having to click-tap-scroll-push-wheel through the pages. I need to be able to put my thumb on the side of a book, flip through and feel the breeze in my face while watching the pages go by...
Seriously though, until they can think of a better input device to navigate an eBook, they'll never replace paper. I'll get an eBook. You'll get an eBook. We'll all accept whatever's out there, eventually (we'll probably even begin to like DRM!). But IMHO, paper is here to stay.
Still not good enough for Japanese... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:E Ink is also working on an Electronic Newpaper (Score:2)
Re:E Ink is also working on an Electronic Newpaper (Score:2)
Re:E Ink is also working on an Electronic Newpaper (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:E Ink is also working on an Electronic Newpaper (Score:3, Insightful)
As it does to run a huge computer sever, and hundreds of clients that access that server. I don't know which way would be more environmentally friendly. It would interesting to see a study on that.
Re:E Ink is also working on an Electronic Newpaper (Score:3, Funny)
Wow, I can't wait for 2003 to get here so I can try this out...
oh wait...
Re:E Ink is also working on an Electronic Newpaper (Score:2, Informative)
CB(f&)
Now what do I use for the catbox. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:E Ink is also working on an Electronic Newpaper (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:whats the point (Score:3)
Re:Resolution still to low (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Resolution still to low (Score:2)
170 dpi is better than most dot-matrix printers deliver, and they were readable enough. I used to crank out papers on an Apple Imagewriter at 144 dpi, and nobody ever complained about the legibility.
Re:But I wonder... (Score:2)
Re:Books on paper (Score:2, Funny)