Cancelling Out CPU Fan Noise 507
Percy_Blakeney writes "After realizing how noisy his computer was, a professor at BYU has created a new CPU fan that uses small microphones and speakers to cancel out its own noise. It isn't perfected yet -- it only nixes the whine, not the whoosh -- but it looks like it could be promising, especially given the professor's background: making jet engines quieter."
now for the hard drives (Score:4, Insightful)
Why go through all this trouble? (Score:2, Insightful)
Noise and Heat (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:now for the hard drives (Score:2, Insightful)
Me too! (Score:2, Insightful)
The problem is that the fan noise isn't a constant noise and theres no way to create an inverse wave exactly when the sound happens--there will be a delay.
Good to see this concept working though.
Re:Noise and Heat (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Why go through all this trouble? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Noise and Heat (Score:2, Insightful)
Your solutions are crap (Score:4, Insightful)
A box is not going to be good for heat dissipation or size constraints.
Water cooling is certainly not going to be cheaper or less complex.
If an active sound nullifier that will automatically adapt to the changing noisyness of a fan as it ages can be made for as little as $20 it is surely a more credible solution than your suggestions...
Wrong direction (Score:5, Insightful)
24 volt fans (Score:3, Insightful)
Power Supply (Score:4, Insightful)
Or, instead (Score:5, Insightful)
I mean it's not like it's not possible.
Case in point #1: NEC (in japan) has a water cooled computer now on sale to the teeming millions. water runs over the CPU and goes into a radiator to the back of the case. the radiator sits just outside of the power supply fan, which turns at an incredibly low speed (kinda like the apple G5 fans). Damn quiet.
Case in point #2: Mitsubishi, after not building any planes since WWII (zero fighter was by them, after all), entered the business-jet arena. The first thing they did was to design a new shape of turbine intake blades using computer simulation that cuts something like 10dB off the engine noise compared to traditioal strait blade intakes.
So, instead of brute forcing one's way around the noise problem, there are more elegant ways!
Re:I should have patented it... (Score:1, Insightful)
Not a good use of energy (Score:3, Insightful)
Every little bit counts. Just imagine if we didn't have to invade Iraq for their oil because we could properly manage our energy usage and R&D into renewable energy sources.
Nope (Score:5, Insightful)
Now if you screw it up and don't time it right, yes, you could increase the sound. However provided your system is indeed doing it's job and producing opposite waves in correct time alignment, it cancels out.
Try it yourself some time. Take two identicle speakers and feed them both the same sound (as in one mono sound to both channels, not a single stereo source). Reverse the polairty on one speaker (plug the black plug into the red and vice versa). If you have them setup normally and listen to the sound far away, it'll simply sound defocused, as though it has no apparent centre or source. This is a good way to focus your speakers, the more defocused an out of phase sound is, the more in focus an in phase sound is. However now take them, get them right next to each other, and point them at eachother. You'll hear almost nothing. PRetty much all you hear is the sound that radiates from the cabinets.
I use this trick when I'm burning in speakers. New speakers come from the factory with everything a little tight, as everything does new. Over the first month of playing they slightly change their sound as they get to their normal "burned in" point. It reach it quicker, you can just pump some white noise through your speakers. Well loud white noise is likely to piss off the neighbours, so I invert one speaker and have them face each other. Reduces it to a pretty minimal level and gives the speakers the desired workout.
woosh would be hard to cancel (Score:4, Insightful)
probably why he's having trouble.
Re:Your solutions are crap (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Wow (Score:5, Insightful)
1. The generation room went from deafening to almost whisper quiet...
2. The motor efficiency jump markedly. It seems that one of the significant causes of mechanical inefficiency, is the increased friction due to vibration (both resonant and nonresonant) in the motor. By canceling out that vibration, the motor operated more smoothly, wore out more slowly, ran cooler, and used less fuel.
Of course, at the time, this only made economic sense with huge motors who's cost of maintenance, operation, and replacement justified spending megabucks in improving performance and endurance.
With the new technologies available to produce sound, or damp it in a given space... this technology could be used to improve efficiency and eliminate noise pollution from automotive engines, turbines, and a whole host of noisy machines including the fans in our computers.
I mean, if Bose can do it with your headphones, why shouldn't we do it with our environment...
Genda
- Why are there so few Zen performers? Because it's no fun making a curtain call to the sound of so many people clapping with one hand.
Re:Nope (Score:2, Insightful)
I have disgustingly acute hearing, perfect pitch, and have listened to a hell of a lot of music of all kinds, and I still find all of these sorts of audiophile claims to be hokum. It's an entire industry founded on lies and bullshit elitism. So frankly, let them waste their money - they deserve it.
Re:Not a good use of energy (Score:3, Insightful)
There's this attitude that's developed among the eco-freaks in this country that they can save the world by reducing their own personal consumption by
Re:Not a good use of energy (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm just going to say it (Score:1, Insightful)
And we'll all be yeomen farmers in 2012.
But seriously, isn't it obvious chip manufacturers have relied increasingly on "overclocking" their chips in order to show meaningful performance gains? It's a clear indication that the current trend in microprocessor performance has levelled off. More and more exotic cooling solutions are required for even the most humble new PC. What ever happened to the 486 days when we didn't need heatsinks for the top of the line machine?
Results will vary with frequency (Score:3, Insightful)